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That's a fun looking kit, wish there were more bows included but using halflings mixed in with my pikemen in a DoW army will be entertaining.

Persian sprue and ww1 Germans teased

Now that is interesting and brave...definitely a shortage of 28mm plastic WW1 kits.

From Facebook

The first set for our FIRST EMPIRES ancients range is PERSIANS. The plastic is finished and we are working on the boxes. Stay tuned for the release date (not too far off) and more information on this set in the coming days.
Les Grognards will be going on pre-order very soon and there will be more to show on them tomorrow. Dark Age Irish are in tooling and we expect to show plastic later this monrth. WW1 Germans are wrapping up the design phase. And our "mystery" historical set is done tooling and we are just waiting to show off the first frames.

https://www.facebook.com/wargamesatlantic/

Ooh, a mystery historical set! Can't wait to see what it is. I would have ordered the Persians already, but I can't be bothered to cut the tabs off the feet of historical minis any more. It is a massive pain.

I would love to see the Persians next to some Frostgrave, Shieldwolf, or Mantic fantasy plastics. I already have plastic Persians in “historical” scale, but I might be interested if these guys were a bit more chonky.

Hope the mysterious historical kit isn’t something already well covered, like Greeks, Romans, Vikings, Knights, Medieval dudes, Agincourt dudes, Napoleonic dudes, WW2 dudes, etc.


PS: Sci fi grognard troops when?

I wish somebody would make historical stuff in fantasy scale. As things stand now, you can't really have your Victrix Vikings fighting your beastmen or whatever, because they are just clearly in a radically different scale.

If Wargames Atlantic historicals are fantasy scale, I would welcome any of the kits Bob mentioned. I might even be willing to pay the time tax and cut tabs off their feet...

It continues to amaze me that there are no good human armored infantry kits (foot knights, retainers, city guards, etc.) available that scale well for fantasy. Thankfully CMON's ASOIAF miniatures ( while not HIPS plastic and with limited conversion potential) at least scale well and are wonderful sculpts.

Reaper Bones has the Crusaders and some new knights that scale very well for fantasy. Their chunky armor works well within Bones’ limitations, although their swords and spears will either need boiling treatments or replacement.

But yeah, those CMON minis are pretty awesome.

I don't really get putting the figures on integral oval bases (unless they absolutely would not cast properly without them?). Whatever variety of bases you could want are cheap and widely available. I prefer the way they did the Raumjager and left it up to you to base them however you see fit.

Speaking of the Raumjager, I've been building a few of them recently and, while it's a bit of a detour from these shiny new releases, I had some thoughts in review:

Overall, this is a really nice kit. The style, size and weapons obviously have 40k in mind, but are flexible enough that you could use them for other systems too. The plastic holds detail nicely and isn't too hard to clean up. The one running-legs pose is a little wonky (BIG STEP!) but they're all quite serviceable - I like the inclusion of two different kneeling-leg parts so the figure can be either flat-footed or squatting down on his heel. Having each model's pouches and stowage molded to the legs has them all looking a bit uniform for my taste (I think I would prefer if the kit on the figure's back was separate so you could mix up the placement or swap in parts from other kits) but it does mean that each model goes together quite quickly with just 5 parts. One thing to watch for during assembly is that the torso isn't as broad as the waist, so if you set it too far forward they'll have a strange sort of shelf thing along the back. Careful placement will avoid this - I was going to call this a flaw, but it might be necessary in order for the torso to be positioned to one side.

The most obvious complaint I have is that the various sets of arms aren't labelled on the sprue. While it's only a bit of trial and error to figure out which ones go with which, it would have been very easy to fix this issue and avoid any potential assembly errors here. The arm sets themselves are well-designed and are precisely contoured to fit the torso in exactly the right way. This makes it very simple to line things up properly, although it does limit the poses a bit (TBH, while the contouring on the arms can be trimmed away, you can't move the arms too far out of their expected position without starting to run into the pouches along the waist anyway). One other nitpick here is that the torsos have this large cylindrical peg to connect to the arms, but most of the arm sets don't actually contact the whole thing and it leaves a bit of a ridge in an area that looks to be part of the coat and that should therefore appear smooth. I found it easy to shave away the offending plastic with a knife, but it still strikes me as a bit of an odd design element.

The weapons all look quite good and strike a nice balance between historical and sci-fi. A grenade launcher is about the only obvious exclusion here, but the variety is still quite useful. The basic rifle looks really cool, although the muzzle has this strange duckbill shape to it that I don't really like. I decided to trim it off and replace it with spare lasgun barrels, but if I was doing up more than a single squad I don't think it's a big enough issue to bother. However, my biggest wish for this kit would be a few more arms not just holding a weapon with both hands - there are a few different rights (pointy finger, throwing grenade, etc) but the only left hand is holding a pistol in a pose that's decent but a little stiff. A couple more options like perhaps binoculars or cradling a rifle in one arm would be a great addition and make conversions quite a bit easier. Hopefully Wargames Atlantic will expand on this range in the near future - some heavy weapons and arm options and you'd have pretty much all you could need.

 Wasteland wrote:
Hopefully Wargames Atlantic will expand on this range in the near future - some heavy weapons and arm options and you'd have pretty much all you could need.

Haven't particularly followed Wargames Atlantic, but is there any word on this? The releases I can see in various stages of production are simply all over the place, with fantasy, sci-fi and historical figures, the latter all from different periods. Both from a kitbashing perspective and of course with scale differences to other (metal) ranges, it would be nice to have, well, more than 1 kit for any range really.

Gallahad wrote:Ooh, a mystery historical set! Can't wait to see what it is. I would have ordered the Persians already, but I can't be bothered to cut the tabs off the feet of historical minis any more. It is a massive pain.

You can cover tab/puddle bases well enough with texture material like vallejo's dark earth texture. I have examples in my blogs.

BobtheInquisitor wrote:I would love to see the Persians next to some Frostgrave, Shieldwolf, or Mantic fantasy plastics. I already have plastic Persians in “historical” scale, but I might be interested if these guys were a bit more chonky.

Hope the mysterious historical kit isn’t something already well covered, like Greeks, Romans, Vikings, Knights, Medieval dudes, Agincourt dudes, Napoleonic dudes, WW2 dudes, etc.


PS: Sci fi grognard troops when?

Grognards are close to preorder, apparently more news on the new week. The mystery historical kit is most likely nothing well covered already.

Gallahad wrote:I wish somebody would make historical stuff in fantasy scale. As things stand now, you can't really have your Victrix Vikings fighting your beastmen or whatever, because they are just clearly in a radically different scale.

If Wargames Atlantic historicals are fantasy scale, I would welcome any of the kits Bob mentioned. I might even be willing to pay the time tax and cut tabs off their feet...

It continues to amaze me that there are no good human armored infantry kits (foot knights, retainers, city guards, etc.) available that scale well for fantasy. Thankfully CMON's ASOIAF miniatures ( while not HIPS plastic and with limited conversion potential) at least scale well and are wonderful sculpts.

I use warlord games historicals as Freeguild and no one locally hates the scale difference. A couple actually think it shows how badass humanity is vs the craziness of the universe.

Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

 Wasteland wrote:
Hopefully Wargames Atlantic will expand on this range in the near future - some heavy weapons and arm options and you'd have pretty much all you could need.

Haven't particularly followed Wargames Atlantic, but is there any word on this? The releases I can see in various stages of production are simply all over the place, with fantasy, sci-fi and historical figures, the latter all from different periods. Both from a kitbashing perspective and of course with scale differences to other (metal) ranges, it would be nice to have, well, more than 1 kit for any range really.

The working wisdom as laid down by Wargames Atlantic on Facebook has been that only if the first kit sells well, follow ups are likely.

Also, news:

https://www.facebook.com/100006928637906/posts/2442550575985873/?sfnsn=mo

The second of the sprues for the grognard kit have been revealed on Facebook.

What are the bits that look like space marine tabards?

So that's wow:

Pot helmets
Tall hats with feathers, with and without gas masks
Tall fur hats, with and without gas masks (yeah they have a technical name, I don't remember it off the top of my head)
And caps

Some amazing options here, even if you don't use the bodies.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
What are the bits that look like space marine tabards?

They look like they might be neck-flaps for the Kepi heads.


FFL in Spaaaace, if you will.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
What are the bits that look like space marine tabards?

Weather coverings/flaps for the khepis

That's a really amazing variety. You can grab a bunch of infantry boxes and turn them into several French-Themed Astra Militarum regiments. I'm thinking:

WW1 infantry with Adrian Helmets, count as Cadian (static trench warfare) or Valhallan (costly mass charges) doctrines. Alternatively, give them all gas masks and play them as DKOK

Napoleonic line infantry with Shakos, count as Mordian doctrine

Napoleonic Imperial Guard with Bearskins, count as Mordian or Vostroyan doctrines

French Foreign Legion with Kepis, count as Tallarn (desert warfare) or Catachan (they're tough guys and all) doctrines


So almost the entire Codex factions represented by one set.

From Facebook:

Also if you're wondering the oddly shaped bits at the very top and bottom right are the sun shield flaps for the back of the kepi if you want to add them.

So tip of the hat to Lord Marcus

Grognards are up for preorder now: https://wargamesatlantic.com/products/les-grognards?variant=31187238944866

Release date is around January.

 BrookM wrote:
Grognards are up for preorder now: https://wargamesatlantic.com/products/les-grognards?variant=31187238944866

Release date is around January.

Oh and there's multibox deal offers

US$35 for 24 figures with over 100 head options. Discounts for 2 or 3 boxes at a time.

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That's a really amazing variety. You can grab a bunch of infantry boxes and turn them into several French-Themed Astra Militarum regiments. I'm thinking:

WW1 infantry with Adrian Helmets, count as Cadian (static trench warfare) or Valhallan (costly mass charges) doctrines. Alternatively, give them all gas masks and play them as DKOK

Napoleonic line infantry with Shakos, count as Mordian doctrine

Napoleonic Imperial Guard with Bearskins, count as Mordian or Vostroyan doctrines

French Foreign Legion with Kepis, count as Tallarn (desert warfare) or Catachan (they're tough guys and all) doctrines


So almost the entire Codex factions represented by one set.

Can't believe you missed out the Elysians Esmer, especially because they were inspired by the Foreign Legion (and of course dedicated para units).
And well steel legion is just mechanised guys with helmets and gas masks
Correct me if I'm wrong but that does round off the codex!
Really nice figures, tons of choice for customization which is nice. Not to mention an interesting and diverse range Gotta say liking the falschimijager

I didn't, but these minis don't look like Elysians at all.




If I were to to play a pure-French Imperial Guard, I would probably play the Grognards as standard guardsmen and field them together with Elysians from other ranges (there are several alternatives, you could probably even use WA's Raumjaeger painted in the appropriate colors), playing the latter as Tempestus Scions.

I didn't say they looked like Elysians, I was more so drawing on the that French defeat at Bien Dien Phu was inspiration for half of the Elysian mess ups, and well it was the foreign legion that was there and fought so tenaciously down to the last bullet, so it'd fit real nice with the Elysian doctrine and army feel.

I'm thinking a more winter campaign Napoleonic-WW2 drop troops from a French themed world, no reason not to wear a greatcoat with your grav-chute(not like it's going to be tangled in anything the way a conventional chute might),

I'd agree if you were to make a drop army or steel legion from atlantic miniatures Raunmjager would be my first choice for awesome alternatives. Especially in flecktarn/splinter smocks.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
US$35 for 24 figures with over 100 head options. Discounts for 2 or 3 boxes at a time.

There are 5 and 10 box deals too

If anyone wanted to see the skeletons painted (basing obviously WIP, as are shields.)

Got my Halfling box yesterday, and they are lovely looking. The arrows look very delicate though. Care with snipping will be required.

 RobertsMinis wrote:
Got my Halfling box yesterday, and they are lovely looking. The arrows look very delicate though. Care with snipping will be required.

Looking forward to getting sets here in the shop (hopefully one can fall off the truck) <cough>

rgdgaming wrote:

 RobertsMinis wrote:
Got my Halfling box yesterday, and they are lovely looking. The arrows look very delicate though. Care with snipping will be required.

Looking forward to getting sets here in the shop (hopefully one can fall off the truck) <cough>

Supposedly it's a pretty damn good kit. There's been a couple people on the war games Atlantic legion Facebook page that have posted about building stuff. Granted that might just be the painter for war games Atlantic but I'm not sure

 lord marcus wrote:

Supposedly it's a pretty damn good kit. There's been a couple people on the war games Atlantic legion Facebook page that have posted about building stuff. Granted that might just be the painter for war games Atlantic but I'm not sure

That wasn't me- I painted the models that Wargames Atlantic uses for web promotion and on the boxes (at least for Raumjager, Skeletons, Grognards, and Halflings). Someone else may be on tap for the upcoming sets. I haven't received the plastic halflings yet- the ones I painted were 3D prototypes.