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Tycho wrote:
That is an interesting point I didn't think of. Looks like 10 man Immortal squads might be the order of the day for Necron players then.


I'm going to just go ahead and take credit for this. I stocked up on 40 new warriors two days ago, so, you know, my special luck caused this.

Seriously though, while we still need more info - the new RP preview does give me hope! I was pretty nervous they'd botch it again, but this doesn't look terrible.


I have 120 Warriors, thanks to Indomitus and recently offloading 20 Warriors. I have 40 Immortals.
Some poor soul in this edition is going to get to face all 160 of these guys. With support. Not even sure how many points that game will be, but last time I tine I did it, it was fun and funny.
The strangest thing happens when you throw down 80+ warriors on a table - some opponents really fail to remember to wipe out the entire squad, thinking that morale will do it for them.
I'll be seeing how durable they are this edition!
   
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If I got into the full swing of Necrons, that's the sort of army I'd be looking at. Plus a Monolith (original model) or two. Basically the cover art of 3rd ed book.

And They Shall Not Fit Through Doors!!!

Tyranid Army Progress -- With Classic Warriors!:
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180 Warriors is 2,160 :(
140 would be 1,680, leaving 320 for support/HQs
120 would leave room for a Cryptek and Monolith

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 Blndmage wrote:
180 Warriors is 2,160 :(
140 would be 1,680, leaving 320 for support/HQs
Well, I've done a couple 3000 point games in 8th, so maybe that's what they're talking about. But for a 2K I'd think you'd cap out at 120 from the Battalion Force Org.

 Blndmage wrote:

120 would leave room for a Cryptek and Monolith


Perfect.

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 Insectum7 wrote:
If I got into the full swing of Necrons, that's the sort of army I'd be looking at. Plus a Monolith (original model) or two. Basically the cover art of 3rd ed book.
You seriously want an old monolith? With this new beauty coming out that makes the current monolith look like a dreidel?

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So we've gone kinda off topic since I started this thread, but with the latest news about aura abilities let me just make one final point:

Abundance of aura abilities and combined aura abilities have been a point of concern all through 8th ed. Now they seemingly nerfed those aura abilities.

There is of course already a thread discussing this in detail, so no point in going any deeper on this subject in this thread, but my point is this: if this change isn't grounds for optimism, I don't know what is.
   
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Tiberias wrote:
So we've gone kinda off topic since I started this thread, but with the latest news about aura abilities let me just make one final point:

Abundance of aura abilities and combined aura abilities have been a point of concern all through 8th ed. Now they seemingly nerfed those aura abilities.

There is of course already a thread discussing this in detail, so no point in going any deeper on this subject in this thread, but my point is this: if this change isn't grounds for optimism, I don't know what is.


Eh. Truthfully, I'm feeling a little less optimistic now.
Don't get me wrong, the new models are fantastic, the change to RP looks promising (once we know the details).

But part of what drew me to necrons in the first place (years and years ago- I didn't play 7th) was a lack of characters (and dependence on characters). So between the command protocols and this (if/then dependency for auras) I'm feeling more constrained than I like. As much as I like limiting reroll auras, I don't like the increased dependency on characters overall, especially in an army that traditionally didn't rely on them. Combined, the protocols and the Core change are giving me bad Synapse vibes, with a bit of craftworld eldar buff dependency. Neither of which I liked in their own armies, let alone dumping them into this one.

I'm overgeneralizing a little, partly because I'm tired of character spam. I like the ethos of faceless troopers in the 40k setting (whatever happens, you will not be missed!), not 5-8 characters for every faction.

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I know I'm optimistic to play this weekend with the hinted new RP rule. I started a Necron army off of lore and wanted to make a durable army that wears you down. Then every time i place the warriors i painted on the board they get blasted off without ever using their special rule. This new rule really gives me a reason to be excited and to actually paint some new warriors because before this i had way too many to ever use without screwing myself
   
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 Xenomancers wrote:
 Insectum7 wrote:
If I got into the full swing of Necrons, that's the sort of army I'd be looking at. Plus a Monolith (original model) or two. Basically the cover art of 3rd ed book.
You seriously want an old monolith? With this new beauty coming out that makes the current monolith look like a dreidel?
Heck yeah. I prefer the "geometric perfection" look over the weird textured look of the new one. I have an old one from 3rd Ed and two more NIB ones just in case.

I'm still bummed I sold this one years ago:
(Large Images)
Spoiler:


And They Shall Not Fit Through Doors!!!

Tyranid Army Progress -- With Classic Warriors!:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/743240.page#9671598 
   
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 Insectum7 wrote:
 Xenomancers wrote:
 Insectum7 wrote:
If I got into the full swing of Necrons, that's the sort of army I'd be looking at. Plus a Monolith (original model) or two. Basically the cover art of 3rd ed book.
You seriously want an old monolith? With this new beauty coming out that makes the current monolith look like a dreidel?
Heck yeah. I prefer the "geometric perfection" look over the weird textured look of the new one. I have an old one from 3rd Ed and two more NIB ones just in case.

I'm still bummed I sold this one years ago:
(Large Images)
Spoiler:



I totally agree with you about the look of the old Monolith!
Holy Fething Gak!!!
That Monolith, and army, is AMAZING!
Proper Wraiths!!

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 Blndmage wrote:
180 Warriors is 2,160 :(
140 would be 1,680, leaving 320 for support/HQs
120 would leave room for a Cryptek and Monolith


I don't remember exactly how I built that list, but what I do remember was the following:

3,000 points.
Mephrit Dynasty (opponent played Chaos Marines.. Black Legion? Don't remember)
4x20 Warriors
Overlord with res orb
Szeras
Cryptek + Chronometron
Ghost Ark
Sword & Board Lychguard - full unit of 10
I don't remember what else was there, and I don't have access to the points at this point in time, but I believe I also had 20 tesla immortals as well.

I have two, but I've never even used a Monolith.... here's hoping that I have good reason to this new edition.
   
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 Blndmage wrote:
 Insectum7 wrote:
 Xenomancers wrote:
 Insectum7 wrote:
If I got into the full swing of Necrons, that's the sort of army I'd be looking at. Plus a Monolith (original model) or two. Basically the cover art of 3rd ed book.
You seriously want an old monolith? With this new beauty coming out that makes the current monolith look like a dreidel?
Heck yeah. I prefer the "geometric perfection" look over the weird textured look of the new one. I have an old one from 3rd Ed and two more NIB ones just in case.

I'm still bummed I sold this one years ago:
(Large Images)
Spoiler:



I totally agree with you about the look of the old Monolith!
Holy Fething Gak!!!
That Monolith, and army, is AMAZING!
Proper Wraiths!!

Thanks Blindmage! I really had a lot of fun with that army back in 3rd/4th. I kinda want to make it again, but the thought of repainting all that clean silver is daunting.

Here's the full collection: (had trouble finding the image, at first.)
Spoiler:

I was especially fond of the old Heavy Destroyers, too.

And They Shall Not Fit Through Doors!!!

Tyranid Army Progress -- With Classic Warriors!:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/743240.page#9671598 
   
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 Insectum7 wrote:
 Xenomancers wrote:
 Insectum7 wrote:
If I got into the full swing of Necrons, that's the sort of army I'd be looking at. Plus a Monolith (original model) or two. Basically the cover art of 3rd ed book.
You seriously want an old monolith? With this new beauty coming out that makes the current monolith look like a dreidel?
Heck yeah. I prefer the "geometric perfection" look over the weird textured look of the new one. I have an old one from 3rd Ed and two more NIB ones just in case.

I'm still bummed I sold this one years ago:
(Large Images)
Spoiler:



That monolith is painted quite awesomely.


I'm looking forward to the new Monoliths mostly because they were some of the first models I ever assembled and they are pretty awful. Getting a clean sweep of all these models that were some of the first ones I ever did is really great.

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Space Marines just got NERFED. No more re rolls aura for units that are not core units. So tanks will not be getting re roll 1's or hits anymore. There you go, now I want all of you to really start getting excited about Necrons in 9th. Im calling it now, GW will make them one of the most powerful armies in 9th.
   
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Oh yeah, I had lit up the Nightbringers eyes too. God I forgot about that!

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 Sasori wrote:

I'm looking forward to the new Monoliths mostly because they were some of the first models I ever assembled and they are pretty awful. Getting a clean sweep of all these models that were some of the first ones I ever did is really great.
Fingers crossed!

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You seriously want an old monolith? With this new beauty coming out that makes the current monolith look like a dreidel?


Does it make me uncool if I say I dislike BOTH versions?

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Tycho wrote:
You seriously want an old monolith? With this new beauty coming out that makes the current monolith look like a dreidel?


Does it make me uncool if I say I dislike BOTH versions?
Maybe not, but I gotta ask if you have ideas for an alternative.

I like the design of the old one, it's a wierdly tricky model to build though, iirc. It's got some flaws. The green crystal had to go, imo.

And They Shall Not Fit Through Doors!!!

Tyranid Army Progress -- With Classic Warriors!:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/743240.page#9671598 
   
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 Insectum7 wrote:
Tycho wrote:
You seriously want an old monolith? With this new beauty coming out that makes the current monolith look like a dreidel?


Does it make me uncool if I say I dislike BOTH versions?
Maybe not, but I gotta ask if you have ideas for an alternative.

I like the design of the old one, it's a wierdly tricky model to build though, iirc. It's got some flaws. The green crystal had to go, imo.


I am a fan of the old Monolith, always liked the way it looked. The new one is okay, looks a little busy. I would prefer the old one too if I played Necron. My buddy had alot of fun playing with 3 of them on occasion back in the day, he would make his brother who plays Tau rip his hair out and complain sometimes, it was funny to watch.
   
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Tiberias wrote:
So we've gone kinda off topic since I started this thread, but with the latest news about aura abilities let me just make one final point:

Abundance of aura abilities and combined aura abilities have been a point of concern all through 8th ed. Now they seemingly nerfed those aura abilities.

There is of course already a thread discussing this in detail, so no point in going any deeper on this subject in this thread, but my point is this: if this change isn't grounds for optimism, I don't know what is.


Eh, GW will find a way to make it super unbalanced, with some factions having all of their killiest units count as "core" for some reason, and others having nigh-useless core choices.
   
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I would like to apologise for previously failing to demonstrate appropriate levels of optimism. Necron release means all Xeno factions will get everything they could wish for, which is great. Or they might not, which is also great.

GW best company ever.

9th best edition ever.

40k best game ever.

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I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.
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 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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 vipoid wrote:
I would like to apologise for previously failing to demonstrate appropriate levels of optimism. Necron release means all Xeno factions will get everything they could wish for, which is great. Or they might not, which is also great.

GW best company ever.

9th best edition ever.

40k best game ever.


It's about time you got with the program, be happy, enjoy life. I was starting to worry for your mental state, can't be healthy to be endlessly getting so worked up and pouring vitriol onto an anonymous forum so heavily.

Plus now you'll get more circle jerking.
   
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Dudeface wrote:
 vipoid wrote:
I would like to apologise for previously failing to demonstrate appropriate levels of optimism. Necron release means all Xeno factions will get everything they could wish for, which is great. Or they might not, which is also great.

GW best company ever.

9th best edition ever.

40k best game ever.


It's about time you got with the program, be happy, enjoy life. I was starting to worry for your mental state, can't be healthy to be endlessly getting so worked up and pouring vitriol onto an anonymous forum so heavily.

Plus now you'll get more circle jerking.


Actually less until we have the positivity revolution
That said one more to the legion - soon we will overthrow the Moaners Confederation!

   
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Dudeface wrote:
 vipoid wrote:
I would like to apologise for previously failing to demonstrate appropriate levels of optimism. Necron release means all Xeno factions will get everything they could wish for, which is great. Or they might not, which is also great.

GW best company ever.

9th best edition ever.

40k best game ever.


It's about time you got with the program, be happy, enjoy life. I was starting to worry for your mental state, can't be healthy to be endlessly getting so worked up and pouring vitriol onto an anonymous forum so heavily.

Plus now you'll get more circle jerking.


Yes, my old life was terrible one. But now I have been shown the way.

dakkadakka kindly recommended me to the Citadel Reeducatorium Centarius (TM).

It was excellent place and I fully recommend. Definitely worth at least three times the price.

I am feeling much better now after my stay. Am smiling much more as well.

What do inquisitors do to people who frown? What do inquisitors do to people who frown? What do inquisitors do to people who frown?

Won't go back. Can't go back.

GW best company ever.

9th best edition ever.

40k best game ever.

No more negativity. I promise. I promise!

GW best company ever.

9th best edition ever.

40k best game ever.

Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.
 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"



 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
 
   
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 vipoid wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
 vipoid wrote:
I would like to apologise for previously failing to demonstrate appropriate levels of optimism. Necron release means all Xeno factions will get everything they could wish for, which is great. Or they might not, which is also great.

GW best company ever.

9th best edition ever.

40k best game ever.


It's about time you got with the program, be happy, enjoy life. I was starting to worry for your mental state, can't be healthy to be endlessly getting so worked up and pouring vitriol onto an anonymous forum so heavily.

Plus now you'll get more circle jerking.


Yes, my old life was terrible one. But now I have been shown the way.

dakkadakka kindly recommended me to the Citadel Reeducatorium Centarius (TM).

It was excellent place and I fully recommend. Definitely worth at least three times the price.

I am feeling much better now after my stay. Am smiling much more as well.

What do inquisitors do to people who frown? What do inquisitors do to people who frown? What do inquisitors do to people who frown?

Won't go back. Can't go back.

GW best company ever.

9th best edition ever.

40k best game ever.

No more negativity. I promise. I promise!

GW best company ever.

9th best edition ever.

40k best game ever.


If you don’t not like the game then why not move on? Why do the mods allow every thread to be highjacked. It’s killing Dakka

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Because thought policing it to be pro-GW would kill it way quicker than the grumbling

Incidentally, that post was great; Someone else miss the point so Vipoid has to add another level of Blatant.
   
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Speaking on necron releases, pretyt much by now if you have a necron army you have a shooty army, so I'd like to see gw do a release box emphasizing close assault combat.

Maybe a box featuring the indomitus skorpekh destroyers, who cares of they're EZ build as long at they're at a good discount and maybe come in a 6 figure set? I zoggin' don't!

Or a box with the destroyers and a destroyer lord. Again, ez build is fine with me as long as it's at a discount.

Possibly a deluxe assault force with skorpekh and ophydian destroyers, a flayed one squad and a destroyer lord. All you need to giver your current shooty army full close combat capability.

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 vipoid wrote:
I would like to apologise for previously failing to demonstrate appropriate levels of optimism. Necron release means all Xeno factions will get everything they could wish for, which is great. Or they might not, which is also great.

GW best company ever.

9th best edition ever.

40k best game ever.

You are simply overreacting.
Get calm and think more rationally.

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 CEO Kasen wrote:
Because thought policing it to be pro-GW would kill it way quicker than the grumbling

Incidentally, that post was great; Someone else miss the point so Vipoid has to add another level of Blatant.


no but I do think the mods should occasionally step in when certain people Hijack every thread with the same relentless "DUR MARINE OP! THEIR NEW CODEX IS GONNA BE EVEN MORE OP!" Crap. especially as golly gee, some nerfs are coming, it's almost like those who said "chill out, wait and see" may have ahd a point

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