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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
At which point the Inquisition kicks down the door and drag him and his buddies away.

With a quick "Your blasphemous texts are an affront to Immortal Emperor Horus!" thrown in.

 Dysartes wrote:
Prior to the HH series of books, it was unclear what brought the 'Nids to the Milky Way, but one of the HH novels features a scene where this Pharos device is used and it attracts the attention of the 'Nids...

And it's sooooooooooooooooooooo dumb...

Yeah I thought that was a bit of an eye-roller, although much less so than many of the other background changes that have happened in recent years.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It also depends what Orkses survived.

The ground up would more be the spores shed maturing, as the emergence Boyz wouldn’t have any older Orks to learn from/copy.

If it’s the remains of an invasion? If it’s just Boyz, much the same as from spores, as they’re not particularly able to maintain their own level of technology.

But, if any Oddboyz are among the survivors, that technological and societal base will be higher, because there’s a Dok, Mek or Runtherd (potentially all three, given Oddboyz do tend to congregate) to keep it maintained to some degree.

Question - was the 'come from mushrooms/spores' background in place when the 2nd war of Armageddon background was written?

 Pacific wrote:
Yeah I thought that was a bit of an eye-roller, although much less so than many of the other background changes that have happened in recent years.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It also depends what Orkses survived.

The ground up would more be the spores shed maturing, as the emergence Boyz wouldn’t have any older Orks to learn from/copy.

If it’s the remains of an invasion? If it’s just Boyz, much the same as from spores, as they’re not particularly able to maintain their own level of technology.

But, if any Oddboyz are among the survivors, that technological and societal base will be higher, because there’s a Dok, Mek or Runtherd (potentially all three, given Oddboyz do tend to congregate) to keep it maintained to some degree.

Question - was the 'come from mushrooms/spores' background in place when the 2nd war of Armageddon background was written?

The 2nd War of Armageddon was written in 2nd edition. Orks at that time had symbiotic algae in their blood, but no spoors mentioned.

The Ork spoor background was introduced in Gorkamorka just before 3rd edition. The spoors were also mentioned from the 3rd edition codex onwards. So when the 3rd War for Armageddon was written (late 3rd edition I think) it was already established.

In terms of Orky reproduction?

Before the Gorkamorka spore hypothesis (and it is only a hypothesis, written in-universe by a Magos Biologis).

In the Rogue Trader book, it simply described old and decrepit Orks wandering off into the wilderness, and young Orks, also known as Wildboyz, wandering out of the wilderness.

Nothing is explicitly said about exactly where the Wildboyz came from - but the Gorkamorka addition does kind of tie into that.

It’s also worth noting that it was either Gorkamorka or Xenologies that pointed out Orks kept in isolation sicken and just sort of die.

I'd have Abbadon have a real victory. Like tearing Marneus Calgar to pieces and killing him.

Secondly I would add two 0's to all numbers. Like a chapter is 100k marines at full strenght.

I also preferred the Lovecraftian Old Crons. A silent galaxy wide threat. Like the tyranids.

Finally I feel chaos should conquer terra and place a chaos lord on the emperors throne. Pitting 'new emperor' loyal non chaos aligned traitors like night lords black legion and iron warriors against pawns like 10k sons and world eaters. Would make for a fun free for all with the imperium forces put into real dire straits, as opposed to kicking csm ass for 10k years.

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