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 AduroT wrote:
There’s a distinct possibility I have a couple books on my shelf I got just because they look really cool. One of them I had read the free digital version before purchasing the physical copy, though I did then reread it via the new physical version. The other I not have yet read, and will mostly likely end up listening to the audio book rather than read the physical.


I've done that with a few comics - the big downside is that volumes/books of comics tend to be really rather rubbish for duel page spreads (so much lost to the spine) and can be insanely thick to the point of being "nearly" unreadable. Or at least not as easily read.

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I thought this might be over soon but I just looked at IMDB and it's going until March. I think newer streaming shows with their paltry 6-8 episodes per "season" have lowered my expectations even further than the dozen or so from earlier streaming shows (and obviously down from 20+ on traditional TV like classic trek).

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 AduroT wrote:
There’s a distinct possibility I have a couple books on my shelf I got just because they look really cool. One of them I had read the free digital version before purchasing the physical copy, though I did then reread it via the new physical version. The other I not have yet read, and will mostly likely end up listening to the audio book rather than read the physical.



One thing to consider in this situation is that it is entirely possible that the artist/author possibly made more working money off of the physical book you purchased rather than however the media platform pays them for you DL-ing/reading the "free" version. Its been a long-term trend in the "culture media producing" world (ie, music and book producing industries) where the publisher has been taking more and more of the cover price in profits, and the artists themselves get less and less (unrelated to this topic, but its why you're seeing more bands doing a ton of VEVO music videos, pandora/streaming, albums, non-stop tours, more and more merch, etc. . . they need to do it to survive, not out of fan service). I forgot where I read it, but a couple years back, I saw an article discussing the pay rates in various novel publishing houses, and how many copies it takes to "make a living" so to speak. It definitely raised some eyebrows, how much things have shifted and changed in favor of the publisher.



It does make me wonder if, part of the reason we are seeing fewer physical copies of video media is for a similar reason: to deprive actors of the revenue stream/payout that presents, and ultimately push them into more front-loaded contracts where they are making their money off of initial airing/releases, rather than through physical media sales?
   
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It's also likely because it helps cut costs. If you don't have to produce, ship and sell things like DVDs whilst you're at the same time running a streaming platform - which you have to pay for anyway - then you're cutting costs. Even more so if the steaming platform can generate more profit from more people.

Eg not everyone buys a film a month, but if you have a subscription that's 12 payments a year from you. Without considering any additional purchases you might make within the streaming service itself.



Also don't forget many of these newer streaming services don't have big contracts with DVD/Bluray producers. Chances are many of the big industries, like Hollywood, will keep pumping out the physical media; but newer and smaller names just won't have those contracts and might not have enough customers or projected sales to make them worth the physical media makers investment into them, when they can just invest into another blockbuster from Hollywood.



It's a bit of the same issue GW had for a time - Space Marines sold the best and everything was compared to a marine. As a result they started pushing them more and more and any line or thing that wasn't up to standard was being steadily dropped/removed/less invested into. Because the Marine gave greater return on investment.


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Oh yeah, the book id read online before buying was absolutely done in big part to support an artist whose stuff I like. The fact it’s got a cool cover worth displaying is a pretty good bonus and tipping point.

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
There’s a distinct possibility I have a couple books on my shelf I got just because they look really cool. One of them I had read the free digital version before purchasing the physical copy, though I did then reread it via the new physical version. The other I not have yet read, and will mostly likely end up listening to the audio book rather than read the physical.


I need hardcopies to read, I really can't read a book off a screen. That's just me, though.

As much as anything else, for me it's about control. If I have a physical copy, it's mine. I can watch it whenever, for as long as the media lasts. For DVDs and CDs that's probably limited more by the players than by the discs. If someone decides to take the media down off the download or streaming sites, I still have my physical copy. If my device crashes, I still have my physical copy.

Sure, there are circumstances where we might lose the physcial copy (a fire comes to mnd) but that seems like the lesser risk to me.

Perhaps we should move this to it's own thread rather than continue de-railing the Star Trek thread?

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Idk if anyone saw the new prodigy but it involves to Kobiyashi Maru.
Dal has a Holo Crew of previous characters like Spock, Odo and much others
The problem is,cthet didn't get impersonators or the actors for those they use old audio of them, bit didn't clean it up.
So Spock is having a heart to heart with Dal but it's all old dialogue recorded at different qualities.
Really awkward.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Idk if anyone saw the new prodigy but it involves to Kobiyashi Maru.
Dal has a Holo Crew of previous characters like Spock, Odo and much others
The problem is,cthet didn't get impersonators or the actors for those they use old audio of them, bit didn't clean it up.
So Spock is having a heart to heart with Dal but it's all old dialogue recorded at different qualities.
Really awkward.


I thought it was an interesting effort. Three of those characters were dead actors, they had a memorial line for them at the end. Kind of makes the heart to heart work because it was his own words still, but yeah, the audio quality was definitely weird.

 
   
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 Overread wrote:
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 Togusa wrote:
Just a headsup to any who cares but all ST will be off Hulu/Netflix in less than a week. Moving to Paramount +


And people call me foolish for buying physical copies of media instead of just streaming it.


And as streaming becomes the norm physical media will go the way of the dodo - extinct save for a few rare stuffed species that are stuffed fill of deluxe content and thus cost ten times the price and are made in limited volume


I'm fine with pirated copies of sometimes questionable quality.
   
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 AduroT wrote:
I thought it was an interesting effort. Three of those characters were dead actors, they had a memorial line for them at the end. Kind of makes the heart to heart work because it was his own words still, but yeah, the audio quality was definitely weird.
Yeah, it was a good effort. The audio & animation could have been more polished but it did the job. I though Odo was a bit out of place but it made sense for a memorial episode.
   
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Odo was fairly out of place, because while he makes a notable security officer, he also wasn’t Star Fleet.

 
   
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I thought the scene was fairly enjoyable and didn't get too hung up on the awkward lines. It fit with what was going on.

Honestly, I was kind of impressed. The show handle the Kobayashi Maru way better than the fir JJ film IMO. It was humorous and Dal's solution of just being utterly chaotic works as a solution to the test.

   
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 AduroT wrote:
Odo was fairly out of place, because while he makes a notable security officer, he also wasn’t Star Fleet.

It cause he said 'get me the best' and not the best starfleet.
   
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Picard season Q releases 3 March.

Airing on Amazon Prime in the U.K., which is nice.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Picard season Q releases 3 March.

Airing on Amazon Prime in the U.K., which is nice.


One last jolly for Sir Picard, even if its as uneven as S1 it'll thump Disco (last clip i saw was dfsj stamping her feat at some Trill because she knows better than 100(0?)'s of years of a culture that lost more to the Burn than most...)

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 Turnip Jedi wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Picard season Q releases 3 March.

Airing on Amazon Prime in the U.K., which is nice.


One last jolly for Sir Picard, even if its as uneven as S1 it'll thump Disco (last clip i saw was dfsj stamping her feat at some Trill because she knows better than 100(0?)'s of years of a culture that lost more to the Burn than most...)


I def give it a try - enjoyed season 1 alot (apart from the dire last epsiode)

Agreed re Discovery - personally I gave up on that since its (IMO) just badly written fan fiction about one person being god and worshiped by everyone.

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New Picard Trailer - bit.ly/Picard2Trailer

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It feels weird to me that Q cares about interacting with a copy of Picard's mind in a fake Picard body. I'd think he'd be pretty antagonistic. "You don't really think you're Jean-Luc, do you?"
   
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He still might be, we’ve barely seen their interactions.

 
   
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If they include the Bell Riots (which it seems to) - will there be a Sisko cameo?

(Also, pay close attention to the address of Guinan's bar...)

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Without going back and rewatching the trailer… is it 104, or something thereabouts?

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
Without going back and rewatching the trailer… is it 104, or something thereabouts?


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Well... that preview looked pretty fun actually.

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I just wanted to jump on here and say that this is my new favorite thread on all of Dakka. You guys rock! Keep on rocking!

Also: I just finished reading this whole thread and wholly agree with SO MUCH of it! I actually read a lot of your posts out loud to my (probably very annoyed) wife!
   
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 bbb wrote:
It feels weird to me that Q cares about interacting with a copy of Picard's mind in a fake Picard body. I'd think he'd be pretty antagonistic. "You don't really think you're Jean-Luc, do you?"

In a fake timeline no less.
It seems excessively self-indulgent (even compared to season 1)

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Voss wrote:
 bbb wrote:
It feels weird to me that Q cares about interacting with a copy of Picard's mind in a fake Picard body. I'd think he'd be pretty antagonistic. "You don't really think you're Jean-Luc, do you?"

In a fake timeline no less.
It seems excessively self-indulgent (even compared to season 1)


Self-indulgent is fine when you can back it up.

Problem is that season 1 couldn't back it up and I have little hope for season 2.

   
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Despite completely distancing itself from Star Trek, Prodigy is 100% better then most of current treks offering and feels like the most like Trek with it's themes.
Seriously so good

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Prodigy has been very enjoyable so far. I can see someone who doesn't want a kids cartoon not liking it but honestly for what it is it's easily the best new piece of Star Trek media we've gotten. It's legitimately fun to watch.

   
 
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