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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 09:44:20
Subject: Re:Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p60
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 09:47:02
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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If you take away the shoulder mounted gun that's a pretty nice model actually. Complements the bigger lads, too. The robots are by far the best of the line for me, well done!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 10:11:58
Subject: Re:Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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I think the shoulder gun needs some more bitz and bobs to make it look like what it actually is: military grade hardware bolted to a pest control unit. Right now it blends too well to be some cobbled together "looted" (for lack of a better word) railgun on a civilian unit body, but it's far too large to just be a well balanced/designed factory war model.
Same goes for the arm gun. From the KS update:
Scarecrow also features a Heavy Chemtek dispersal unit. These pest control neurotoxin distribution systems are capable of rendering areas temporarily lethal
This thing was a pest control sprayer. Not a combat weapon.
That's why it doesn't have the hands and shoulderable man sized/shaped gun. I can't speak for the Hunter as it's supposed to be a piece of military hardware, but for the scarecrow, it makes sense. Why spend money attaching and interfacing another arm for something that is essentially a fumigator/pesticide sprayer on legs? Which I assume it was put on legs to traverse fields without trampling crops under tread. It is a scarecrow after all and these things absolutely belong in the cornfields. I'm going to rust my models up good and make that railgun look sufficiently improvised and I think it will turn out great.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 10:12:33
Subject: Re:Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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I like them, I think the shoulder gun itself is a bit too big for my tastes, but I do like the shoulder mount...
I think they'd look fantastic with something like a small missile pod in place of the gun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 10:15:08
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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@DarkTraveler777: I think the point that was being made wasn't that the paint jobs are bad. It's that the paintjobs might not amke the models attractive to certain people. I've had a couple of GW kits that I hated initially, that was until I saw them in a different color scheme (aka. different paint job). Suddenly the minis were attractive to me. The original paint jobs were technically of very high quality, just not something I liked.
About that Scarecrow: Nice!
I still want that Robot only box please. Or could we get a mini only box (without the rules, templates, etc.) for $50 for example?
I might be game for more then two starters ($180 pledge) can we just add $90 for each additional starter box we want?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 10:23:16
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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The robots are the main thing keeping my interest in ME, in that unlike the Karlists the Epirian robots will slot straight into my existing collection, so even if the ME rules turn out to not to my liking, the robots are good enough on their own.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 10:46:25
Subject: Re:Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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Hey guys, hadn't checked back into the thread for a few days, so just popping by to tell you I love you.
I like the scarecrows alot personally, and I really think I'll enjoy modeling them. Keep up the good work, I can't wait to see what sort of paint schemes I can apply to everything
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 10:48:25
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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Looks good, The joints are going to be a little buggy to position before gluing. Pinning might be necessary.
Looking at that sprue I can't see the lower legs anywhere. I see the arms in the top middle. Upper thighs in the upper right. Upper arms on the upper left. Body on the mid left, Head on the mid left. Shoulder gun mid right. and whole bunch of options on the bottom. Or am I seeing this wrong?
I like the scarecrow a bit more now, the design is better then I thought it was. I will still mod mine a bit. I think that big gun would look better in it's arms. Either replacing the left arm with it, or treating it like an under slung grenade launcher.
I might change the head too...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 10:58:06
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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Vanguard-13 wrote:Looks good, The joints are going to be a little buggy to position before gluing. Pinning might be necessary.
Looking at that sprue I can't see the lower legs anywhere. I see the arms in the top middle. Upper thighs in the upper right. Upper arms on the upper left. Body on the mid left, Head on the mid left. Shoulder gun mid right. and whole bunch of options on the bottom. Or am I seeing this wrong?
I like the scarecrow a bit more now, the design is better then I thought it was. I will still mod mine a bit. I think that big gun would look better in it's arms. Either replacing the left arm with it, or treating it like an under slung grenade launcher.
I might change the head too...
The upper arms are in the bottom right, the leg parts are top left and top right.
Pinning is not needed - this is HIPS plastic, so polystyrene cement will melt the plastic, welding it together. Posing is not too hard either as you get about 2-3 minutes after applying glue to move the model around before it all sets solid. This model would be impossible (without wanting to kill yourself from fiddlyness!) in any material other than HIPS plastic. We would strongly advise against using superglue with these
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 11:18:03
Subject: Re:Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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My 2 cents - I like the Scarecrows a lot overall, but as others have said, I'm not a fan of their over-sized shoulder guns. (They just don't look practical to me.) After I mod away the shoulder guns I think they'll look great.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 11:37:01
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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Spiral Arm Studios wrote: Vanguard-13 wrote:Looks good, The joints are going to be a little buggy to position before gluing. Pinning might be necessary.
Looking at that sprue I can't see the lower legs anywhere. I see the arms in the top middle. Upper thighs in the upper right. Upper arms on the upper left. Body on the mid left, Head on the mid left. Shoulder gun mid right. and whole bunch of options on the bottom. Or am I seeing this wrong?
I like the scarecrow a bit more now, the design is better then I thought it was. I will still mod mine a bit. I think that big gun would look better in it's arms. Either replacing the left arm with it, or treating it like an under slung grenade launcher.
I might change the head too...
The upper arms are in the bottom right, the leg parts are top left and top right.
Pinning is not needed - this is HIPS plastic, so polystyrene cement will melt the plastic, welding it together. Posing is not too hard either as you get about 2-3 minutes after applying glue to move the model around before it all sets solid. This model would be impossible (without wanting to kill yourself from fiddlyness!) in any material other than HIPS plastic. We would strongly advise against using superglue with these 
Ah! Thank you, I assumed those were the backpack antenna from one of the models.
Hmm. looks like I'll need to get new glue. I think the full poseable nature of these will be awesome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 11:42:44
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
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Spiral Arm Studios wrote: Vanguard-13 wrote:Looks good, The joints are going to be a little buggy to position before gluing. Pinning might be necessary.
Looking at that sprue I can't see the lower legs anywhere. I see the arms in the top middle. Upper thighs in the upper right. Upper arms on the upper left. Body on the mid left, Head on the mid left. Shoulder gun mid right. and whole bunch of options on the bottom. Or am I seeing this wrong?
I like the scarecrow a bit more now, the design is better then I thought it was. I will still mod mine a bit. I think that big gun would look better in it's arms. Either replacing the left arm with it, or treating it like an under slung grenade launcher.
I might change the head too...
The upper arms are in the bottom right, the leg parts are top left and top right.
Pinning is not needed - this is HIPS plastic, so polystyrene cement will melt the plastic, welding it together. Posing is not too hard either as you get about 2-3 minutes after applying glue to move the model around before it all sets solid. This model would be impossible (without wanting to kill yourself from fiddlyness!) in any material other than HIPS plastic. We would strongly advise against using superglue with these 
Is there a particular brand or type of glue you'd recommend for this plastic specifically?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 11:44:36
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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Any brand will do as long as it is Polystyrene Cement - you shouldn't be using any other type of glue for HIPS models frankly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 11:53:33
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Seems to be all about the robots/mechanical this month. First GW with the Ad Mech, and now you guys with the Epirians lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 11:58:19
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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I like Testors liquid cement. One bottle will last you basically forever. You just need a teeny, tiny amount. What I normally do is put a little drop on each surface and dab it with my pinky to spread it out/remove excess cement. Then I blow on the surface of the glue for a few seconds until it dries a little bit and gets tacky. Then stick the pieces together and hold firmly. The biggest issue with cement is getting it where it isn't supposed to be. You don't want to put too much of it in your join because the melted plastic will squeeze out around the joint and possibly mar details. I dab with my pinky to make sure I am not handling a model with a finger that has been in the cement.
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Kirasu: Have we fallen so far that we are excited that GW is giving us the opportunity to spend 58$ for JUST the rules? Surprised it's not "Dataslate: Assault Phase"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 11:59:50
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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filbert wrote:Any brand will do as long as it is Polystyrene Cement - you shouldn't be using any other type of glue for HIPS models frankly.
Awwww but my GF9 glue is so glorious. It melts glass and metal and small animals just as well as plastic!
angelofvengeance wrote:Seems to be all about the robots/mechanical this month. First GW with the Ad Mech, and now you guys with the Epirians lol
So where do Star Destroyers and chibi anime dungeon crawlers fit into this mould?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 12:39:03
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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I swear by Revell's contacta pro with metal nozzle, because the nozzle fits perfectly in the scarecrow's limb sockets
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 12:42:30
Subject: Re:Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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Another vote for Testor's, even if weeble has made me feel like I might have a problem in that I have just started my second tube in the past year.
To go along with his point though, that's two (large) FoW armies with lots of PSC vehicles, Mantic's DZ stuff, DFG Leviathans and an APC, and bunches of other stuff besides. It DOES last a while, I'm apparently just an addict...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 13:51:11
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Those scarecrows are beautiful. Love the red tinted canopies on the first shot. I'm wondering about how to pose them now.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 14:28:15
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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Alluring Mounted Daemonette
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And you guys said you were not doing female models! Check out that hourglass figure!!!
Sarcasm aside, I am an oldschool battletech fan and I have always enjoyed the unsymmetrical aesthetic. This guy reminds me of a Hunchback and that is good with me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 14:41:15
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Any way you can play an all robot and drone army? I think I'll enjoy the rules, just can't get past the basic infantry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 14:45:01
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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You may need to take one unit of Human troops. Bot handlers are going to be really beneficial too. But other then that, You should be able to take nothing but drones and Robots.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 15:06:31
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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Handlers should be the only Human type unit you'll need since they'll have boosts for effectiveness of the robotic units and will also act as an HQ, but Drones apparently are a core type unit so you won't be required to take infantry squads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 18:21:18
Subject: Dakka's Game - Maelstrom's Edge - Live on Kickstarter - New Robot! p61
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Can't help but notice that today has seen people either stop backing or reduce their pledge. The gradual climb to just above $37,000 has dropped down to below that level now.
At least it's all still funded, I've pledged for a fair few terrain sprues and may add a couple more on. I know there have been reassurances from SAS that having more than one box will be useful and after seeing the variability of the Scarecrows today I figure that I have to have as many as possible. I'm still holding on until I know what the force organisation for the game will be. I may want oodles of angels and mechs (really badly want!), but because I will predominantly be playing games solo, I really would prefer to know that there will be a situation where playing 2 (or 3, or 4) Angels is feasible and warranted. Otherwise I have another group of figures gathering dust.
Please note, I love the aesthetic of this game and the fiction and the figures and the concept and the hats and the mechs and the prospect of "normal females" in the future and the name and everything else I've read so far.... so I say this from a place of full support for the IP - As someone who has very little space to store figures I need to be pragmatic. I'd also love to know that if I bought two sets that the suppression counters could be pink in one box and flame in the other (The previous generations of my family have been notorious for hoarding and I therefore hate the idea of duplicating things I'm not going to readily need).
I hope you don't find my comments inflammatory or wingey, I would just like to have a reason to support the KS with more money and I wonder whether other people may be feeling the same. Add-ons may be the answer (I'm genuinely sorry to have to say that, because I have felt your reasons for not doing so were appropriate), because if I knew I had a shopping list to make a force that would look cool and would allow me to still have multiple force organisations (and others felt the same as me) you could end up swimming in money because your models (to my mind) are a very very high quality and have got me truly excited about MEdge.
I'm so excited to get my box and to paint up these beauties. Thanks for all of your hard work. It would be brilliant to get the other stretch goals met for added jazz, but I will be happy with my starter set as it is if it doesn't happen. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 18:36:30
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Has the $60 - A handful of plastic pledge level been increased with the extra plastic (handlers, scarecrows, hunters, shadow walkers, angel) that has gone into the box set?
If so you really want to make that clear on the front page/faq (I know you can't change the pledge level text once somebody has backed)
again if it is the equvelent of just the minis from the box set it might be the ideal solution for TP^DC Deputy Manager (no duplication of the other bits)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 18:41:14
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The Conquerer
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I'm pretty sure the new models only apply to $90 and above, but i could be wrong.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 19:15:33
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Huh! Had just assumed that the extra models were only for the $90 pledge. If the $60 pledge gets you ALL of the models, I would just get one (or two) of those. Would also make my previous post a little pointless - ahem! *walks away sheepishly*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 19:21:32
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I don't know if it does which is why I'm asking so your question may or may not still be relevant
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 19:22:29
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TP^DC Deputy Manager wrote:Can't help but notice that today has seen people either stop backing or reduce their pledge. The gradual climb to just above $37,000 has dropped down to below that level now.
At least it's all still funded, I've pledged for a fair few terrain sprues and may add a couple more on.
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I'm so excited to get my box and to paint up these beauties. Thanks for all of your hard work. It would be brilliant to get the other stretch goals met for added jazz, but I will be happy with my starter set as it is if it doesn't happen. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
This is quite normal for a KS of our long duration. We fully expect a good 10 days or so of ticking up and down, with it picking up in the last week, so dont lose faith!
Every model is valuable, and most army builds are possible from a FOC perspective, so multiple boxes will not be a problem. You may find yourself limited tactically if you focus on one or two unit types, but at the same time you might find a strategy that works well with those unit types.
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Has the $60 - A handful of plastic pledge level been increased with the extra plastic (handlers, scarecrows, hunters, shadow walkers, angel) that has gone into the box set?
The $60 offer has always just been that very limited selection of plastic - we wanted to give a cheap option for those who wanted a bit of plastic without committing to the main set. It does not and will not contain the full range of models, and has always had a lower content from the start of the KS. That option consists of plastic that is 100% production ready, and does not include any of the later-added plastic, and the models in that pledge are heavily demonstrated by our painters to give a very good idea of what to expect.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/12 19:35:51
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Ah well, thanks for the clarification
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