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Yeah, upset I'm sure, until the avalanche of emails asking when does the pre-order period start. Then it'll be nothing but sunshine and lollipops (stolen from Bakunin's moderators, of course) when he realizes just how well this offering will sell. Since it contains my faction, I hope it smokes Icestorm. And I think BoW will get more views, not less, because of this.

Dire Foes with no civvie But Leila Sharif will put Hassassin Husam Yasbir and his ho-hum profile to rest permanently. That is a crazy good profile and load-out. Looks like my Christmas Order will be a lot earlier than I expected. I need to learn to paint faster too. Much faster.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Micky wrote:
In other news, Carlos seems unhappy. (judging by his Facebook reactions).

...which were?

I'm guessing upset about the 'early leak'?

The leak is because BoW uploaded the videos early and forgot to make them private or at least unlisted. People screenshotted them. Can't blame the fans for that.

Carlos himself was vague, but we all know the reason he said this.




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 Red Harvest wrote:
Dire Foes with no civvie

The Yu Jing "Madtrap" has a visual on the dossier. That may be the equivalent of the Civvie.

Dire Foes with no civvie? :(

I mean I really like the mad trap.. but still..

 Absolutionis wrote:
The Yu Jing "Madtrap" has a visual on the dossier. That may be the equivalent of the Civvie.

Madtraps are like Crazy Koalas, they're equipment for the Yu Jing guy. Civvies generally play the role of a thematic token for both sides to fight over.

But yeah, it might be taking the civvies 'spot' in the box, like how the tiny Tinbot took the place of a Jannisary in their box.

What about an exclusive civvie/neutral in the big box set? Any word there?

It's the Yuan Yuan.

Based on the bit of bat rep I saw before the videos were made private, it looks like the missions might be the same as O:I.
I think the last mission had the central building with the CSU on it, which seemed to be what they were describing.

Something they started with Tohaa and I'm glad is making its way more into the other ranges is aiming with a sidearm while holding their main gun. Combat poses in the past were limited a lot to aiming down iron sights with variation coming from how they were standing - on a tactical rock, crane pose, dodging, etc. Makes a nice change while keeping a combat pose.

In the past we've had models only holding their sidearm, which make good proxy models when there's a lot of profiles and and you need one model to represent a few, but this is a bit more real as a combat pose. They don't just ditch their primary weapon when they use their sidearm (or do a movie type 'I ran out of ammo so I'm throwing my perfectly good gun at you oh no I now have no gun'). Like, the Al Fasid has a long range HMG and a medium ranged LGL, but something has just popped out in front of him from behind a building. Whip out the heavy pistol.

The No Civvie thing was for the big box, not the Dire Foes. The Civ in the big box was replaced with the Yuan Yuan.

They didn't show the Dire Foes box, just the profiles.

That is pleasing to hear TalonZahn.

Cheers for the clarification.

To be fair, there wasn't a civvie in Icestorm either. They may have used the model as one in the scenario (I wouldn't know, I didn't buy it) but the CSU has a mercenary profile.

Killian, the resident BoW Infinity expert posted this on Facebook: "Next week was structured so well, the surprises would have kept the community happy all through the week. At least not everything has leaked, there's still good stuff to come."

Emphasis mine. There's still stuff to look forward to!

Not a big complaint here, but as a JSA player, it's a shame that I have to get models I can't use to get the AMAZINGLY COOL ninja with tactical bow.

I may have to start work on a generic Yu Jing force. Sigh... My wallet has started to weep.

so be it.

That Ninja would look amazing in a 50/50 normal paint job and plain light grey with a light blue band separating the sides, as if his TO camo is deactivating as he's leaping forward to fire.

Pseudonym wrote:
Not a big complaint here, but as a JSA player, it's a shame that I have to get models I can't use to get the AMAZINGLY COOL ninja with tactical bow.

I may have to start work on a generic Yu Jing force. Sigh... My wallet has started to weep.

so be it.

Just paint the Zhanshis as Keisotsu. Then you're good.

Really. The Keisotsu are appallingly terri-bad.

Good stuff to come:
1. Images of the Dire Foes Minis
2. The other mini in the Dire Foes Box (if any)
3. Details of what is in the Red Veil scenarios (?)
4. The particulars of the GenCon deal
5. Warren gets sub-titles
6.Changes to Spec Ops?

 Barzam wrote:

Pseudonym wrote:
Not a big complaint here, but as a JSA player, it's a shame that I have to get models I can't use to get the AMAZINGLY COOL ninja with tactical bow.

I may have to start work on a generic Yu Jing force. Sigh... My wallet has started to weep.

so be it.

Just paint the Zhanshis as Keisotsu. Then you're good.

They don't have the mc hammer pants though.

Oh FFS, they aren't "hammer pants".
They are heavy fabric pleated trousers called hakama. Srsly, they look NOTHING alike. A basic google image search would show that.

There is no elastic gathering on the ankles and they aren't a drop-crotch crap catcher.

Hammer was a never-was-been.

If i had known there actual name i would have use that, but as I'm not well versed in Japanese clothing/armour I didn't actualy know what they were, but now i do.

I only used hammer pants as I needed a name and thats the first thing that came into my head, even though they obviously aren't, but i figured people would get what i was meaning.

But before that post i hadn't needed to name them so why were just the easy to paint pants baggy pants of some sort.

I've got some - they were part of my aikido gear.
They're also used in kendo. They are part of the "uniform" so to speak.

About the only mini in that box I want is the ninja - but I'm not buying it for a dozen models I can't and won't use (Although I could use the yuan-yuan, I already have 3 for my QK, and don't need any more) - so the box is a 3/5 for me.

Same goes for the new dire foes.

 chromedog wrote:
Oh FFS, they aren't "hammer pants".
They are heavy fabric pleated trousers called hakama. Srsly, they look NOTHING alike. A basic google image search would show that.

To be perfectly honest I am aware of what hakama are, and still refer to them as "Hammer Pants" as it has a greater cultural footprint outside of peeps into martial arts and rogue-japanophiles.

And as for google image searches...
...it is easy to forgive someone for calling them such. The Corvus Belli version definitely included the rucked in version that makes them balloon out to the familiar hammer pant shape.

Edit: Geez pictures are huge!

Parachute pants are hilarious. It takes a brave person to wear them outdoors.

So InfinityWarcors.com now is reporting on the leaks. Images are the same exact ones we've seen except with some close-ups: http://infinitywarcors.com/increible-pero-cierto-mas-filtraciones/

 Vain wrote:

 chromedog wrote:
Oh FFS, they aren't "hammer pants".
They are heavy fabric pleated trousers called hakama. Srsly, they look NOTHING alike. A basic google image search would show that.

To be perfectly honest I am aware of what hakama are, and still refer to them as "Hammer Pants" as it has a greater cultural footprint outside of peeps into martial arts and rogue-japanophiles.

And as for google image searches...

Spoiler:

...it is easy to forgive someone for calling them such. The Corvus Belli version definitely included the rucked in version that makes them balloon out to the familiar hammer pant shape.

Edit: Geez pictures are huge!

This.
I googled hakama and it looked nothing like the actual hammer pants on the models.

They look similar enough most people are happy with the term and know what they refer to. Getting worked up about leads to nothing but unnecessary grey hairs.

So what's the estimated price?

From the official site:

Operation: Red Veil contains two totally new and re-sculpted Starter Packs of two different factions: Yu Jing and Haqqislam. It also includes two exclusive miniatures, one per faction, only available in this Battle Pack, for a total amount of 14 highly detailed metal miniatures!
The Yu Jing Starter Pack contains the following figures: 3 Zhanshi, 1 Zúyŏng Terracotta Soldier, 1 Tiger Soldier Hacker and 1 Hsien Warrior. Plus: 1 Ninja with Tactical Bow, an Operation: Red Veil Exclusive Figure!
The Haqqislam Starter Pack contains the following figures: 3 Ghulams, 1 Khawarij, 1 Zhayedan and 1 Murabid Tuareg. Plus: 1 Al Fasid Heavy Infantry Regiment trooper (New troop profile!), an Operation: Red Veil Exclusive Figure!

Everything coming out of CB looks so good lately.

Can't wait to get the boxed set.

Even the terrain is awesome.

Must say that looks awsome.

Now - a release date!

 Fayric wrote:

 Vain wrote:

 chromedog wrote:
Oh FFS, they aren't "hammer pants".
They are heavy fabric pleated trousers called hakama. Srsly, they look NOTHING alike. A basic google image search would show that.

To be perfectly honest I am aware of what hakama are, and still refer to them as "Hammer Pants" as it has a greater cultural footprint outside of peeps into martial arts and rogue-japanophiles.

Edit: Geez pictures are huge!

This.
I googled hakama and it looked nothing like the actual hammer pants on the models.

Actually they are wearing Hakama, It's just that they're also wearing greaves and when you wear greaves over Hakama, it looks like Hammer Pants.