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I'm only skimming the posts as to not accidentally spoil anything for myself, but it does seem.people are discussing MCU movies in the MCU TV thread without spoilers.

If I'm wrong I apologise, but if I'm right use tags or FOTAT (feth off to another thread.)

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In this case they're explicitly off topic and break-ing forum rules. MoM is not a TV show.

I mean, I've advocated for people to take their own responsibility in the past and I stand by that, but when the latest TV show has just aired the finale this week, it's a little unsporting to potentially have people click to come in to talk about that and then step on a massive landmine of a spoiler for the latest movie when that's explicitly not what this thread is for.

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 Azreal13 wrote:
I'm only skimming the posts as to not accidentally spoil anything for myself, but it does seem.people are discussing MCU movies in the MCU TV thread without spoilers.

If I'm wrong I apologise, but if I'm right use tags or FOTAT (feth off to another thread.)

Fair. spoilers added


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 Azreal13 wrote:
In this case they're explicitly off topic and break-ing forum rules. MoM is not a TV show.

I mean, I've advocated for people to take their own responsibility in the past and I stand by that, but when the latest TV show has just aired the finale this week, it's a little unsporting to potentially have people click to come in to talk about that and then step on a massive landmine of a spoiler for the latest movie when that's explicitly not what this thread is for.


I mean I totally agree with you. I just know how the reaction to this will be.
   
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I've also spoilered my responses. My sincere apologies to anyone who got spoiled as a result of my back and forth with HBMC.
   
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2nd viewing done, on a fancy Dan wrap around screen.

Picked up a couple of bits I’d missed on the first watch (
Spoiler:
The cloak repair is acknowledged, Wanda’s kids also being carvings on Wundagore Mountain
)

It still holds up, even when we do know what is coming. And I’d say the whole thing moves along at a decent pace. Certainly I don’t think there’s a lot of fat to be trimmed.

I do think you need to be quite up to speed with what’s come before, at least for the main characters. I of course am, being a massive nerd. I’d be interested to see what folk who skipped other entries might make of it.

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 creeping-deth87 wrote:
... would you like some help moving those goal posts?
I don't think that means what you think it means...

 creeping-deth87 wrote:
Spoiler:
We're not talking about the Illuminati serving a purpose, we're talking about the Patrick Stewart cameo serving a purpose ... You could have ripped him right out of the movie and lose absolutely nothing. That's why it's gakky. That's why Ralph Bohner was gakky. It's the same thing. Don't show me these characters again if you're going to immediately write them off after they appear.
Ralph Bohner was a giant "FU" to the audience because they took an actor from a different film series playing a similar character, set him up as the character we already knew from the MCU (even going so far as to show a 'dead' version of him in several shots), and then made him be neither - just a dick joke.

X in this film is X, not someone else. The rug is never pulled from under the audiences feet. He is exactly who he's meant to be right from the start, there's no misrepresentation of who he is, and no bait'n'switch. It's not the same thing.

Spoiler:
Moreover, he has to die. They all do. If left alive they are a distraction to the MCU. Everything from there on in would be "When is X going to appear again?" "Will John Krasinski be in this one too?" "When are you going to introduce the Inhumans now that we have Black Bolt in the MCU?" and so on. X and the other cameo characters cannot remain alive by the movie's end, because they're not going to be the ones we see in the MCU moving forward. If/when we do have the proper MCU versions of these characters, they'll get proper introductions.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't think that means what you think it means...


Spoiler:
I know exactly what it means. I made a comparison with Professor X and Ralph Bohner, you then said it's not the same thing, I elaborated, and then you started talking about the Illuminati and how they were necessary for the movie for Dr. Strange to learn he didn't always have to be the one holding the knife. I never said a damn thing about the Illuminati, or the lesson Stephen had to learn there, so... yes, what you did was absolutely moving the goal posts. Do you know what it means?


Ralph Bohner was a giant "FU" to the audience because they took an actor from a different film series playing a similar character, set him up as the character we already knew from the MCU (even going so far as to show a 'dead' version of him in several shots), and then made him be neither - just a dick joke.

X in this film is X, not someone else. The rug is never pulled from under the audiences feet. He is exactly who he's meant to be right from the start, there's no misrepresentation of who he is, and no bait'n'switch. It's not the same thing.


Spoiler:

Moreover, he has to die. They all do. If left alive they are a distraction to the MCU. Everything from there on in would be "When is X going to appear again?" "Will John Krasinski be in this one too?" "When are you going to introduce the Inhumans now that we have Black Bolt in the MCU?" and so on. X and the other cameo characters cannot remain alive by the movie's end, because they're not going to be the ones we see in the MCU moving forward. If/when we do have the proper MCU versions of these characters, they'll get proper introductions.


If left alive??? We've never seen Xavier in the MCU. There's no reason for the audience to ask when we're going to see him again, so why did they have to show his death to put that question to bed? It honestly seemed like they threw him in there just to appeal to our nostalgia. It might not have bothered me so much if we didn't get such a perfect sendoff with Logan, but here we are.

I'll concede that Ralph and Xavier weren't exactly the same thing, but it felt equally pointless.

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 Azreal13 wrote:
In this case they're explicitly off topic and break-ing forum rules. MoM is not a TV show.

I mean, I've advocated for people to take their own responsibility in the past and I stand by that, but when the latest TV show has just aired the finale this week, it's a little unsporting to potentially have people click to come in to talk about that and then step on a massive landmine of a spoiler for the latest movie when that's explicitly not what this thread is for.


I knew that would happen and stopped reading this thread after Thursday, until now, having just gotten back from the theater.

 
   
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I saw it on Friday night, and it is now Monday. I left with the following three thoughts:

1. What genre is this aping? That is the key question to ask when thinking about an MCU film. It is clear that this was intended to be a the MCU "horror" entry. That colors a lot of what we see, and why it happens if you apply the tropes of horror movies to it.

2. This movie seems to tie in pretty closely with Wandavision and What IF and is perhaps the most self-referential of the Marvel movies. Will this be a trend, as we also see it in the Spider-Man movies. Once of the MCU's strengths was that each was a stand alone film in its own right. Has that formula changed and does it matter at this point?

3. Mother's Day is the worst day to release this movie as it is inherently anti-mother! The Mother is the villain, and her quest for her aborted kids turns her into a monster. The loss of mother's causes huge trauma in a different character. There are two themes of the impacts of motherhood in this film, and they are both bad!

Edit: Also, great to see a Bruce cameo, we just needed a Ted Raimi dying moment to make this complete. Also, this had the best final, end credits scene since Cap's PSA on patience.

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Definitely wanted you to have seen Wandavision, but it didn’t really need any of What If.

 
   
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The multiverse kind of cheapens some stuff.


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The_Real_Chris wrote:
 bbb wrote:
The multiverse kind of cheapens some stuff.


Pretty much the entire point of Rick and Morty


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Looks like content.
   
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Hm. I like her look, but the effects for her don’t look as smooth, like she stands out from the screen more than He Hulk, more cartoonish.

 
   
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I'm looking forward to this one.

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Its AoS, it doesn't have to make sense.
 
   
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Hope this answers on what Hulk has been doing and his recovery from Endgame. Not sure how what route they're going for making his cousin go green too though.
   
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 AduroT wrote:
Hm. I like her look, but the effects for her don’t look as smooth, like she stands out from the screen more than He Hulk, more cartoonish.


It really varies. In some shots it is very much so, in others it looks like light make up. In others, she looks like Gamora's sister.


Good to have a date for it finally. And something that's hopefully truly different from the standard formula.


Grimskul wrote:
Hope this answers on what Hulk has been doing and his recovery from Endgame. Not sure how what route they're going for making his cousin go green too though.

Presumably the standard car accident/mob hit and needs a blood transfusion. Hopefully a mob hit provoked by her own actions pursuing criminals rather than the original comic origin of 'so-and-so's shy daughter'

Though hopefully the blood transfusion is legit (they're off somewhere remote and its urgent), not 'LA hospitals magically out of her super-rare blood type'

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What's the bet Hulk loses his powers by the end of this?

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What's the bet Hulk loses his powers by the end of this?


I'm still salty about how they literally off-screen speedran the character arc they set up in Infinity War to basically handwave completely in Endgame. Now any "wisdom" or Hulk knowledge he passes onto She-Hulk is going to feel unearned.

If Banner does end up losing the Hulk, I'm assuming it has to do with him being with some sort of anti-gamma mcguffin or somehow having his Hulk juice being drained by the villain or needing to pass it onto his cousin.

   
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And then it'll line up with the end of Shang-Chi where he's back to human form.

 Easy E wrote:
... it is inherently anti-mother!
That's a stretch more stretchy than Mr. Fantastic.

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Looks fun. Given Jen was Deadpool before Deadpool was Deadpool, I'm not going in expecting anything super important. Should be pretty lighthearted.
   
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my Marvel-fu is somewhat fuzzy but didnt she (or least the cartoon version) have a Southern Accent ?

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:


 Easy E wrote:
... it is inherently anti-mother!
That's a stretch more stretchy than Mr. Fantastic.



Tell me more?


As for She-Hulk, it is clear they are going to apply the "Ally McBeal" template to this super TV show. Man, they might be running out of genres to put super-heroes into!

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Which is more or less what She Hulk has always been.
   
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 AduroT wrote:
Hm. I like her look, but the effects for her don’t look as smooth, like she stands out from the screen more than He Hulk, more cartoonish.


I was thinking the same.

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As good as the budget for D+ is, its still not the same as a major film and likely requires more minutes of effect footage overall than any film would.
   
 
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