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Made in ca
Grisly Ghost Ark Driver






That is a really well-done recreation of the model! It'll look great on the table!

See what's on my painting table Now painting: Kruleboyz Gutrippaz 
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

Nevelon wrote:Nice work. Once you paint it up you’d be unable to tell it didn’t start life as a monoposed HQ. Hits all the notes of the source.

Gwyn chan 'r Gwyll wrote:That is a really well-done recreation of the model! It'll look great on the table!


Thanks guys, comments are very much appreciated. Now that I'm looking at it, I'm starting to get ideas about adding tiny wires for the smaller cables (like those to the light, mace head and wrapped around the servo-skull cable). That might be asking for trouble though...

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Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut





Australia

Additional tiny details like that I think beg the question, once painted will they be obvious and will they add to the overall model or detract from it?

See My Crazy Army plan here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/521618.page#5517409

2000 Point Armies
[40k] Orks - Kaptin Grimskragas Razorfangs; Tyranids - Hive Fleet Acidica; Astra Militarum - Murdochs 5th Armoured Detachment; Necron - Reclamation Legion of Tomb World Fordris; Inquisition - Ordos Hereticus Witchfinder Tasetus and Coven; Iron Hands - Taskforce of the Garrsak Clan Company; Alpha Legion - XII Ambush Cell, Loyalists of the Twin Primarchs; Aeldari - Guiding Light of Yarn Le'ath;

[Warhammer] Empire - Obsidian Knightly Order; Bretonnian - Vain Quest for the Grail, 11th Crusade of Araby; Dwarf - Throng of Kark Veng; Ogre Kingdoms - Wondrous Caravan of the Traveller and his Maneaters; Tomb Kings - Bronze Host of Ka-Sabar; Chaos Dwarf - Protectors of Hashuts Holy Places; High Elf - Dragonriders of Caledor;  
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

@Archer: That is a good point my friend. Very likely I'd hit a point of diminishing returns pretty quickly.


So... yesterday was interesting. Did a bunch of counting of infantry models, specifically for my orks and AdMech. I was trying to sort things into units and see what I was missing, especially with the AdMech as the optimal unit size seems to have changed with the new codex.

In the process I repaired a bunch of figures, re-purposed a few, rebased several including two of my skitarii transgenic arcubusses which for some inexplicable reason I'd put on 25mm bases when they should be on the oval bases. I also noted that I have a lot of orks that need repainting. (sigh)

Thus I did a lot of work yesterday but don't really have much to show for it. I was happy to find that I'm pretty set on skitarii vanguard (2 squads of 20) and was able to re-jigger my rangers into two (legal) squads of 5. Another 10 rangers are probably in the cards but that's not a priority. I am, for the first time... considering getting a flyer or two, but again that's not a priority. I have no interest whatsoever in the toaster tanks regardless of their utility.

My orks are another matter however. There are a LOT of painted boys that I got second-hand that don't really match anything and stand out (negatively) as a result. Also my basing changed radically since I started collecting them so I have a large number that don't really match anything else in the army. So I'm looking at re-doing the bases of probably 40-50 orks and conducting a major re-paint of a dozen or two. Uugh.

On the positive side... in the next few months I'll be getting a massive influx of models (both AdMech and Ork) that Nerdfest09 has been painting for me. That will, in essence complete my AdMech (unless I buy more) and take a major chunk out of my unpainted ork horde. I'll finally have storm boys, 3 fully painted battle wagons, an extra trukk and a variety of characters that I've been needing.

I guess we'll see how the new ork codex changes things. I realized yesterday that I might not have a single new ork model in my entire army (new being anything created in the last few years). I think my dakka jets and plastic dreads & kans are the most recently produced things I have. Nearly all my boys are AoBR or converted from AoBR. While I'm not too cranked up about the new beastie boys (they aren't very Bad Moon-like), I do like the new dragster-based vehicles. Might look into adding some of those if I make enough progress on the rest.

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Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
Made in hk
Krazed Killa Kan





USA

I really like your kitbash on the last page. It makes me want to try. Good luck with all that re-basing and re-painting

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

Thanks Syro!

Well, I put together a 2000 point army of new AdMech (Mars) and my eldest and I gave it a run against his Necrons. (pic below) I'm trying to make learning these complicated rules a bit easier, so I limited myself to just skitarii units (as opposed to the cult mechanicus units) and took as many "core" units as I had (2 vanguard, 2 rangers, 3 iron striders) with 3 dune crawlers, some cavalry and a group of infiltrators in support. I still love the armigers as they're good at shooting, assault, are fast and pretty "hard". Had 4 commanders which was unusual for me... not sure about them as I pretty much completely forgot to use their special abilities.



Game was over by T2 as I'd wiped out most of his best units by then and would have easily carried enough VPs for the win. Frankly that's been our experience... whomever goes first nearly always wins, usually by the end of T2 or T3 at best.

The Icarus Array dune crawlers got a lot better as they no longer suffer a -1 to shoot at ground targets, though they only get a bonus to shoot at aircraft rather than at all flyers (who cares?). The Iron Striders are better mainly because they have the "core" keyword and the las cannon damage is now much more consistent (d3+3). Vanguard are great in big blobs though you can still get you arse handed to you by blast weapons. I still prefer rangers in small squads of 5 to sit on rearward objectives and plink away at distant targets or harass enemy characters with an arquebus.

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Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
Made in gb
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Mostly, on my phone.

Sounds good, but frustrating that it's still the coin flip.

Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
Solar_Lion: "Man this sums up your blog nicely."

Anpu-adom: "being Geek is about Love. Some love broadly. Some love deeply. And then there are people like Graven.  
   
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Green Bay, Wisconson

Love the DOW terrain. Would like to see the whole table set up.


 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Australia

Do you go out to select "competitive" armies? My regular gaming companions and I are VERY casual when it comes to playing and we hardly ever have results like this.

Admittedly we are still playing with 8th edition rules and it will take time if we ever shift editions again.

See My Crazy Army plan here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/521618.page#5517409

2000 Point Armies
[40k] Orks - Kaptin Grimskragas Razorfangs; Tyranids - Hive Fleet Acidica; Astra Militarum - Murdochs 5th Armoured Detachment; Necron - Reclamation Legion of Tomb World Fordris; Inquisition - Ordos Hereticus Witchfinder Tasetus and Coven; Iron Hands - Taskforce of the Garrsak Clan Company; Alpha Legion - XII Ambush Cell, Loyalists of the Twin Primarchs; Aeldari - Guiding Light of Yarn Le'ath;

[Warhammer] Empire - Obsidian Knightly Order; Bretonnian - Vain Quest for the Grail, 11th Crusade of Araby; Dwarf - Throng of Kark Veng; Ogre Kingdoms - Wondrous Caravan of the Traveller and his Maneaters; Tomb Kings - Bronze Host of Ka-Sabar; Chaos Dwarf - Protectors of Hashuts Holy Places; High Elf - Dragonriders of Caledor;  
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

@SL: It's not very exciting... just a bunch of green buildings scattered about. I need to do a lot of work on them to make them look like anything.

@Archer: Not really. Were constantly changing up our builds and experimenting so I don't think that's the issue.

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




Wisconsin

I have heard the new admech are very good. Would be interesting to see how the game would go if you both set up the same but let the Necrons go first.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

Well, we cut back on the points a bit to make things a bit easier to keep track of and we'll start clogging up the mid-field with terrain to see if that helps. We always use a lot of terrain but it tends to be pretty scattered.. if we start making obscuring terrain clusters it might help out the coin flip issue.

Yeah, the new dex is really good. I'm sure some things will get modified as a result... but I'm OK with that. I do like that fact that I can play just about anything in the faction now. Dakkabots took a hit but they were on top of the pile since the beginning, so I suppose it's time for them to take a back seat for a while.

I also got lucky... I've been attracted to Mars and skitarii since I started the army which at the moment is a very powerful combination. It also means that there's almost nothing else I need to buy to field a good list. Yeah, there's stuff I could have... but I don't need it.

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
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Robot Cat






OH-I Wanna get out of here

 Archer wrote:
Do you go out to select "competitive" armies? My regular gaming companions and I are VERY casual when it comes to playing and we hardly ever have results like this.

Admittedly we are still playing with 8th edition rules and it will take time if we ever shift editions again.


Keep in mind his area is ULTRA competitive, so casual for him and casual for you may not mean the same thing. Not that they are minmaxing or whatever the meta is these days, but still going to be more optimized than something you might see nerdfest playing. Not that there is anything wrong with how anyone is playing, just different environments.
   
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Madison, WI

Good lord. 20 Vanguard with support from a character, a canticle, a doctrina and a very broken strat just wiped out a 20-man necron warrior squad by doing 48 wounds in one shooting phase... Won't be using that strat on that unit again outside of a competitive tournament. I had to try it... but now that I see what it can do I'm leaving it alone.

A full Mars skitarii list where you can freely combine both doctrinas and canticles across the whole army is just insane. My cult mechanicus stuff (with the exception of an HQ or two) might be relegated to "fluff" lists from now on.

A few pics of the scenery for Solar_lion...













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Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
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Posts with Authority





Boston-area [Watertown] Massachusetts

The always questionable dudes over at Goonhammer keep a running track of the meta, and even with recent tweaks, going first is still a 55% win-chance. Which may seem small, but it shouldn't be anywhere other than 50%. First turn advantage is a THING in 9th edition.

--B.


Falling down is the same as being hit by a planet — "I paint to the 20 foot rule, it saves a lot of time." -- Me
ddogwood wrote:People who feel the need to cheat at Warhammer deserve pity, not anger. I mean, how pathetic does your life have to be to make you feel like you need to cheat at your toy army soldiers game?
 
   
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Madison, WI

@Brian: Interesting, I would have thought it would be more... but if they're keeping track things must not be as bad as we thought. We have started to really gum-up the midboard with LOS terrain. That has helped for certain.


Yesterday, I had the opportunity to pick up a whole city-scape from an acquaintance who used to run lots of Apoc games. Rather than do a photo dump of everything... I thought I'd post them as I finish them. Among other things, have about 8 really large, modern MDF buildings. Simple, but should look great painted and with something for windows in place. Have some large trees, MDF billboards (nice ones too), a couple of crates and a bunch of smaller crates, pallets and large drums that will make great scatter terrain. Also got some awesome space age cars that were produced in Russia. I remember when these came out... have always wanted a set. OH, and a nice, plain concrete gaming mat (mottled grey).

So, for today...

The awesome cars. They came painted.


The pallets. Just a light spray with brown and a lighter, uneven spray of grey to make some of them look a bit worn.


The crates. Sprayed brown and distressed with 80 grit sandpaper.



A little follow-up on learning my AdMech. Yesterday, Thing 1 and I played a 1500 point game and I decided to use a strictly Cult Mechanicus list rather than the Skitarii I've been using. Thus the entire list was made of tech priests, kataphrons, kastellan robots (dakkabots) and electropriests. Even took Cawl to help make up some points. By-and-large I'm not impressed. Many of the HQ bonuses don't translate and the units themselves are kinda meh with 4+ BS and fewer ways to enhance it. The fulgrite priests were decent and are Core, so they get bonuses from the HQs. However... I'm still learning and barely using any stratagems, so there could be all kinds of synergy I'm not seeing. But the first impression isn't very exciting. Luckily for me the vast majority of my models are skitarii... so I should be set for this edition.

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Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
Made in gb
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Mostly, on my phone.

Cars are indeed fab. And nice job churning out the scatter!

Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
Solar_Lion: "Man this sums up your blog nicely."

Anpu-adom: "being Geek is about Love. Some love broadly. Some love deeply. And then there are people like Graven.  
   
Made in ca
Grisly Ghost Ark Driver






Those cars are great models, I'm jealous! And the scatter looks profesh!

See what's on my painting table Now painting: Kruleboyz Gutrippaz 
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

Thank you both very much. Here are the drums which actually took a little bit of painting skill. If I can find some good chemical warning symbols I'll print them out and slap them on in order to give them a bit of pizazz.


Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




Wisconsin

Cars look ace! Scatter terrain should come in handy keeping those nasty skittari from shooting everything off the board.
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

Thanks my friend!

Finished up the techno-crates. I realized I have nothing blue except a couple of space marine librarians in my whole collection... and I have seen big, blue, plastic storage crates before. So... viola!


Thus in 48 hours I went from no scatter terrain to this!


I have 3 larger crates and the bases of some trees to work on. That'll be today's project.

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

Not too exciting... did a couple of "brand new, fresh-off-the-line" shipping containers. Hey... they've all got to be new at least once!


Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
Made in us
Never Forget Isstvan!





Green Bay, Wisconson

Thanks for the updated pics.

Always good to have more scatter terrain


 
   
Made in gb
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Mostly, on my phone.

Snazzy. Very lovely fades.

Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
Solar_Lion: "Man this sums up your blog nicely."

Anpu-adom: "being Geek is about Love. Some love broadly. Some love deeply. And then there are people like Graven.  
   
Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut





Australia

I think the choice of blue crates is a really good idea. Adds an element of interest and diversity. I think most of my scatter terrain is green which can get very boring and blend into the background.

See My Crazy Army plan here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/521618.page#5517409

2000 Point Armies
[40k] Orks - Kaptin Grimskragas Razorfangs; Tyranids - Hive Fleet Acidica; Astra Militarum - Murdochs 5th Armoured Detachment; Necron - Reclamation Legion of Tomb World Fordris; Inquisition - Ordos Hereticus Witchfinder Tasetus and Coven; Iron Hands - Taskforce of the Garrsak Clan Company; Alpha Legion - XII Ambush Cell, Loyalists of the Twin Primarchs; Aeldari - Guiding Light of Yarn Le'ath;

[Warhammer] Empire - Obsidian Knightly Order; Bretonnian - Vain Quest for the Grail, 11th Crusade of Araby; Dwarf - Throng of Kark Veng; Ogre Kingdoms - Wondrous Caravan of the Traveller and his Maneaters; Tomb Kings - Bronze Host of Ka-Sabar; Chaos Dwarf - Protectors of Hashuts Holy Places; High Elf - Dragonriders of Caledor;  
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

Thanks guys!


You know, I wonder how much of this can be attributed to accidental list building miss-matches. We're both still doing a lot of experimenting with new units, strategems, combinations, etc. Yet in many cases even though we're going out of our way not to maximize our lists... we still end up in a lot of very lop-sided games (i.e. over by T2 or the first half of T3).

My current 1500 point list is about as innocuous as I can make it...

HQ: tech priest manipulous, Daedelosus, skitarii marshal, TP engineseer (no FOC slot)
EL: 5 infiltrators, 5 rust stalkers, 10 fulgrite priests
TP: 2x 5 rangers, 2x 10 vanguard, 3 kataphron destroyers (grav cannons)
FA: 3 Ironstriders (las cannons), 9 raiders
Hvy: 1 Icarus dune crawler

I'm not pretending this is a weak army... but there's nothing remotely overpowering or spammy here.


Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut





Australia

I guess with any development of a new rule set, at least with something like 40k with so many possible interactions, it is possible to stumble upon unforeseen interactions that drag something that appears average and turns it into a powerhouse combination.

Time will even things out as people learn what combinations to watch out for and how to mitigate it. I always liked the strategem from 8th edition that let you blow up a Scarab swarm to do mortal wounds, wasn't game winning, but if you could get that charge on a solo character could be a game changer.

See My Crazy Army plan here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/521618.page#5517409

2000 Point Armies
[40k] Orks - Kaptin Grimskragas Razorfangs; Tyranids - Hive Fleet Acidica; Astra Militarum - Murdochs 5th Armoured Detachment; Necron - Reclamation Legion of Tomb World Fordris; Inquisition - Ordos Hereticus Witchfinder Tasetus and Coven; Iron Hands - Taskforce of the Garrsak Clan Company; Alpha Legion - XII Ambush Cell, Loyalists of the Twin Primarchs; Aeldari - Guiding Light of Yarn Le'ath;

[Warhammer] Empire - Obsidian Knightly Order; Bretonnian - Vain Quest for the Grail, 11th Crusade of Araby; Dwarf - Throng of Kark Veng; Ogre Kingdoms - Wondrous Caravan of the Traveller and his Maneaters; Tomb Kings - Bronze Host of Ka-Sabar; Chaos Dwarf - Protectors of Hashuts Holy Places; High Elf - Dragonriders of Caledor;  
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

Indeed Archer. Good observation.


A few shots from my current game with Thing 1. I apologize for the unpainted buildings and partially painted models. We're working on things as fast as we can.

The table (beginning if T2) with the very large city buildings I picked up in the last purchase. They're huge, but pretty cool... and these aren't even the tallest/biggest footprint ones! I plan on getting the things I need to finish these after work today, then we'll see how good my scheme works.


Here's how we're using the buildings. We treat the top of each building as if it were the first floor. That way we don't lose the gaming space. The walls are breachable but if you can find a door to go through it doesn't cost you any extra movement. Being inside counts as soft cover from the outside.



In the center, the factory building will ultimately have removable roof panels. All the buildings will have windows (blackened) with the exception of their first floors which will be "clear" glass (plastic sheet). Here the bikes and cavalry square off over an objective.


My right flank, the wraiths took some heavy damage from shooting and the fulgrites, but the darn things kept popping back up!



A suite of destroyers moves in on my left...


The greatly feared praetorians closing in on my right...


The tomb stalker... haven't seen this bad boy on the table in years.


We're tied 3/3 at the moment (playing a non-standard mission).


On a minor hobby note, I converted the last Dragoon into a proper twin-las Ballistarius. I have 3 that can be equipped as either, though the Balistarii seem to be the better choice at the moment. I've been staring at my skitarii marshal who is waiting patiently to be painted. I'm finding lots of excuses not to do so.




Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




Wisconsin

Nice! New new terrain and armies are looking great. Cant wait to see how it turns out.
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

I just can't wait to get those buildings finished... they'll look SO much better that way.

The boy is whomping on me pretty good. Lots of casualties for both of us, but he's killing me in VPs.

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

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