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You're implying that the intent of the movie was to be anti-mother. You're implying that it was Sam Raimi's intention to make a film that was specifically against motherhood. You're implying that it was Kevin Feige and Marvel Studio's intention to denigrate mothers in their newest film.
Do you understand how pants-on-head stupid that sounds?
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LunarSol wrote: As good as the budget for D+ is, its still not the same as a major film and likely requires more minutes of effect footage overall than any film would.
We may not be seeing the final effects. Those can be tarted up and improved up to quite late in the day.
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I am unreasonably excited for She-Hulk. I've never read the comics and never been a Hulk fan particularly, but Tatiana Maslany is fantastic - although it's going to be a little weird seeing her only play one character.
On second thought, we should take this to the MoM thread.......
In other news, I finally finished the Loki TV series. Seems like that one is pointing the way to the next phase of MCU will be all about divergent timelines and the multiverse will be a big factor. No d'uh right. I mean Spider-man and MoM points to this obvious conclusion as well. I guess my big question is does the timeline splits in Loki create the "new" Multiverse, or is the Multi-verse something different from the timeline?
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pgmason wrote: I am unreasonably excited for She-Hulk. I've never read the comics and never been a Hulk fan particularly, but Tatiana Maslany is fantastic - although it's going to be a little weird seeing her only play one character.
we have a multiverse now so Orphan Green could happen....
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Easy E wrote: I saw it on Friday night, and it is now Monday. I left with the following three thoughts:
1. What genre is this aping? That is the key question to ask when thinking about an MCU film. It is clear that this was intended to be a the MCU "horror" entry. That colors a lot of what we see, and why it happens if you apply the tropes of horror movies to it.
2. This movie seems to tie in pretty closely with Wandavision and What IF and is perhaps the most self-referential of the Marvel movies. Will this be a trend, as we also see it in the Spider-Man movies. Once of the MCU's strengths was that each was a stand alone film in its own right. Has that formula changed and does it matter at this point?
3. Mother's Day is the worst day to release this movie as it is inherently anti-mother! The Mother is the villain, and her quest for her aborted kids turns her into a monster. The loss of mother's causes huge trauma in a different character. There are two themes of the impacts of motherhood in this film, and they are both bad!
Edit: Also, great to see a Bruce cameo, we just needed a Ted Raimi dying moment to make this complete. Also, this had the best final, end credits scene since Cap's PSA on patience.
except Wanda ISN'T a mother.
Wanda is the mentally disturbed woman trying to kidnap someone else's baby so she can have a baby.
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The exercise scene reminds me of my favouritism bit in End Game, where Depressed Thor not only finds out he’s still worthy on Asgard, but when he goes Literal God Mode, he’s suddenly not Buff Thor.
Better Groomed Thor for sure, but not Dad Bod to God Bod Because Reasons. I’m probably getting my trivia confused, but I think that was a fairly late change in the script?
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Easy E wrote: I saw it on Friday night, and it is now Monday. I left with the following three thoughts:
1. What genre is this aping? That is the key question to ask when thinking about an MCU film. It is clear that this was intended to be a the MCU "horror" entry. That colors a lot of what we see, and why it happens if you apply the tropes of horror movies to it.
2. This movie seems to tie in pretty closely with Wandavision and What IF and is perhaps the most self-referential of the Marvel movies. Will this be a trend, as we also see it in the Spider-Man movies. Once of the MCU's strengths was that each was a stand alone film in its own right. Has that formula changed and does it matter at this point?
3. Mother's Day is the worst day to release this movie as it is inherently anti-mother! The Mother is the villain, and her quest for her aborted kids turns her into a monster. The loss of mother's causes huge trauma in a different character. There are two themes of the impacts of motherhood in this film, and they are both bad!
Edit: Also, great to see a Bruce cameo, we just needed a Ted Raimi dying moment to make this complete. Also, this had the best final, end credits scene since Cap's PSA on patience.
except Wanda ISN'T a mother.
Wanda is the mentally disturbed woman trying to kidnap someone else's baby so she can have a baby.
Yeah, which makes MoM a ham-fisted abortion storyline..... which, to be fair aligns well with the "horror" genre tropes as the "horrors" of motherhood/pregnancy are a common theme in horror films.
Edit: Dang, wrong thread. We should take it to the MoM thread instead......
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I've got tone whiplash.
Is it a rom com? A buddy movie? a philosophical tract on the necessity of the divine? A thriller about psychological disorders leading to murder? A Shapeways ad? A baffled and confused cultural note on how ancient Greeks are somehow shocked by nudity? Why is the villain in this film? I honestly can't tell if this is going to be 90% jokes and 10% horrible trauma or the other way around (in which case we've seen all the jokes now).
I'm also confused with the logic behind Jane getting a semi-repaired Mjolnir out of nowhere and also supposedly traveling amongst the cosmos. Last I remember, Mjolnir doesn't give access to the Bifrost, so did Jane just jump on someone else's ship?
Grimskul wrote: I'm also confused with the logic behind Jane getting a semi-repaired Mjolnir out of nowhere and also supposedly traveling amongst the cosmos. Last I remember, Mjolnir doesn't give access to the Bifrost, so did Jane just jump on someone else's ship?
It looks like when Thor meets her they are on Earth (that is a regular car in the background). Thor could bring her on her cosmic journey with HIS bifrost summoning axe.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
Although I thought the last Thor film had wonderful scene - it was weakest plot wise - this could be the same.
The last scene was nicely done
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Grimskul wrote: I'm also confused with the logic behind Jane getting a semi-repaired Mjolnir out of nowhere and also supposedly traveling amongst the cosmos. Last I remember, Mjolnir doesn't give access to the Bifrost, so did Jane just jump on someone else's ship?
It looks like when Thor meets her they are on Earth (that is a regular car in the background). Thor could bring her on her cosmic journey with HIS bifrost summoning axe.
Fair point, didn't catch that they were still on Earth for the 2nd trailer. Hoping they don't handwave how Mjolnir still works just because someone worthy touched the handle, because otherwise Thor or some other Asguardian probably should have gotten access to it first.
Easy E wrote: Yeah, which makes MoM a ham-fisted abortion storyline
Did you even watch the same movie as the rest of us? Anti-mother? Abortion story?
Talk about seeing what's not there...
Well, if you really want to talk about MoM, we should go to that thread.
That said, I am starting the Falcon and Winter Soldier flick now. Still too early to say much, but it was interesting that they brought Batroc "The Leaper" back in the first episode.
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I liked the first episode of Ms Marvel so far. Origin story is quite Similar, but trading the terrigen mist inhuman thing for a Magic bangle dealie. Gotta wait and see how more of the powers of that are explored, but they’ve generally got the characters’ attitudes correct so I’m down with this version I think.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, I should mention there Is a short post credit scene on the first episode.
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That was really heartwarming and fun, interesting to see where they’re going with this one. Also, loving the Edgar Wright / Scott Pilgrim style direction.
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Dreadwinter wrote: Starting to see rumors pop up that Kevin Feige is talking to the Duffer Brothers(Stranger Things) about a Ghost Rider project.
Yeah, I saw the same. My only exposure to Ghost Rider was the Nic Cage movies so I'm not exactly attached to the character, but I'd certainly be interested if the Duffer Brothers were involved. Stranger Things has been consistently good in my book, especially this most recent season.
Ghost Rider series set in the 90s with Dan Ketch or in the 70s with Johnny Blaze would be the way I'd want that to play out. Ideally, they could do the 90s and then bring in Blaze like they did back in the day. Great potential.
I'm not sure if it's good or bad that my favorite part of this premier is Kamala's try-hard parents who are far from the worst over-protective parents I've ever seen but are just so cringy when they try to lighten up >>; It's amazing how well they nailed that, making it both funny and incredibly relatable at the same time.
I wasn't expecting to like Ms. Marvel cause it seemed aimed at a demographic I'm not but it's not bad. It's got a lot of the same style and energy as Tom Holland's Spider-man, but Holland basically went straight to Avengers tier stuff in the MCU and we never really saw him dealing with more mundane aspects of life. This show kind of fills that niche in a way and it's quite pleasant.
The actress deserves props too. She's freaking great. She perfectly manages to nail the balance of socially awkward, good natured, and suffering daughter of over-protective parents.
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Id love for them to do Daniel Ketch in the modern day with johnny Blaze in a supporting role.
Johnny is the Ghost Rider everyone knows, but all the most iconic Ghost Rider stuff comes from Ketch. The penance star, the bike with the skull face plate, the spiked shoulders/boots/wrists. It's all Ketch.
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Really liked the first episode of Ms. Marvel. Kinda surprised, I didn't expect to enjoy the show but it was all around silly enough to work for me. Also, some decent supporting cast. I really liked the parents for the reasons mentioned above.
Ghost Rider would be FANTASTIC for a show with the Duffer Brothers. Hoping they do it modern day and have flashbacks to the past Ghost Riders.
