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Whelp that's saddening considering I won't have any money till next month at best and, well, by then I'll be shocked if there's stock.

Granted Indomitus did manage to remain in stock for a long while, but GW also printed a LOT more of it.

Oh well never mind - Got my League of Infamy KS boxes this morning so thats a nice compensation.

Seems strange not to reprint but the world can be wierd sometimes

 Overread wrote:

jullevi wrote:
If I were GW, I would be tempted to accept the win and move on too. Selling out is not exactly bad for business if the amount of copies sold was enough to turn in massive profit. I think it was.

I mean aside from the backlash they'll get from the community over this.

GW haven't shown themselves to be especially concerned with 'backlash' historically.

And the community have an absolutely appalling record of maintaining any sort of backlash for longer than the next shiny new release, even if any significant number even care in the first place.

The skepticism is real.

This would be one of the silliest things GW could do with this product. Also there are several made to order options going on in third party stores so at least a single reprint?

It's almost funny as a joke. Almost.

Oh well, we should know our lesson after so many similar experiences. Repeat after me : "I won't get hyped for a GW new release in advance"...

Yeah I still think they’ll do more.
That’s like Indomitus with what they said and it came back.

As an aside, there’s still a possibility that they’re talking about this lot of it.
Not that they won’t ever.

But either way. Disappointing to hear that as a response at all.

I wonder what effect this will have on potential expansions. ☹

 Souleater wrote:
I wonder what effect this will have on potential expansions. ☹

Probably no effect at all. The lead times are such that by now these are either already coming, or they're not. Which is exactly the same reason there won't be a reprint of this. GW will have a very clear idea of sales patterns, and spooling up another run of the components won't be worth it, in the covid world at least. The economics of it will be prohibitive when the majority of people who wanted to possess this will already have it. it's highly unlikely there's a long tail to sales of non core AoS and even less conversion of those who definitely would have bought itbut didn't because of xyz reasob

I don’t know if it has been brought up but the cursed city website looks to be gone as well.

I can still see it.

Zwan1One wrote:
I don’t know if it has been brought up but the cursed city website looks to be gone as well.

Works for me.


I'm not too fussed about playing it so maybe I'll dump my copy in the basement for now and if it turns out there's really no reprint I'll flip it.

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Overread wrote:

jullevi wrote:
If I were GW, I would be tempted to accept the win and move on too. Selling out is not exactly bad for business if the amount of copies sold was enough to turn in massive profit. I think it was.

I mean aside from the backlash they'll get from the community over this.

GW haven't shown themselves to be especially concerned with 'backlash' historically.

And the community have an absolutely appalling record of maintaining any sort of backlash for longer than the next shiny new release, even if any significant number even care in the first place.

Yeah, what are they going to do about it, NOT buy the newest space marine GW dangles in front of their face? GW has hard data proving they can do whatever they want and their sales will keep rising, a doormat has more backbone than your average GW fan.

 Rik Lightstar wrote:

Anyone who thinks that GW are intentionally limiting production and sales volumes on some of these items by the amounts that would be required to have so many people unable to buy and selling out within a couple of hours on most releases is kidding themselves.

GW aren't choosing to not get your money out of spite, anyone suggesting anything along those lines is deluded.

Rik

Spite? Of course not.

Sales tactics? Clearly.

Plan for a few lost sales on a single box set. Sell loads more of the next few boxes (at a higher price) through customer fomo.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Zwan1One wrote:
I don’t know if it has been brought up but the cursed city website looks to be gone as well.

Works for me.


I'm not too fussed about playing it so maybe I'll dump my copy in the basement for now and if it turns out there's really no reprint I'll flip it.

You’re right. I can search for it and access it but it’s not in the drop down menu on the site, which I thought it was there before. But maybe I’m wrong...

Cronch wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Overread wrote:

jullevi wrote:
If I were GW, I would be tempted to accept the win and move on too. Selling out is not exactly bad for business if the amount of copies sold was enough to turn in massive profit. I think it was.

I mean aside from the backlash they'll get from the community over this.

GW haven't shown themselves to be especially concerned with 'backlash' historically.

And the community have an absolutely appalling record of maintaining any sort of backlash for longer than the next shiny new release, even if any significant number even care in the first place.

Yeah, what are they going to do about it, NOT buy the newest space marine GW dangles in front of their face? GW has hard data proving they can do whatever they want and their sales will keep rising, a doormat has more backbone than your average GW fan.

Remember the price hike five minutes before 9th was announced? "GW have now priced me out of the hobby and during a pandemic too!" Those claims lasted all of a fly's lifespan before "OMG Indomitus looks GLORIOUS!!! I must pre-order two boxes just for the Primaris!!!"

No doubt they'll put out a Community post saying they've listened and will make Cursed City a Made-to-Order release in the future and people will say it's proof how wonderful Nu!GW is at listening and they'll buy three boxes as thanks or something.

If it truly is now OOP then that's completely bizarre since I doubt that initial run was enough to see a RoI on all those unique plastic sculpts.

I doubt even Indomitus itself saw a massive profit, but it was mainly used as a way to further draw people into the 40k ecosystem. Not to mention all of those models are now on sale separately and will have many years to make their costs back.

What is Cursed City drawing people into? How are they going to make their investment back on these 60 unique plastic sculpts off of one run?

 Bosskelot wrote:
How are they going to make their investment back on these 60 unique plastic sculpts off of one run?

Don't forget many of them will share a sprue so they won't be individual moulds. Games like this might be only be a few moulds for the machine to work with.

The thing about Indomitus is all (or most anyway) of those sculpts were eventually going to be released at a 3-4 times the price. You can understand GW didn't want to flood the secondary market with endless sprues and deny themselves those sales.

That really shouldn't be the case here.

I tend to agree GW don't have some villainous scheme to stoke up demand and then go "HA! You can't give us money, how does it feel".
But this whole thing just seems bizarre. The amount of effort seems entirely overblown for a one and done release.

If it helps someone at GW is probably kicking themselves, because they could easily have charged 50% more and still sold out.

Yes, that would really be bizarre, which in connection with all the buildup is also why I still don't believe Cursed City is done yet.

Does anybody else think the language in the tweet is very guarded? The WarCom team write: 'Cursed City is sold-out on http://games-workshop.com and we are not expecting it to return online.' I read this as: 'We've seen Cursed City is now offline in the store and nobody really told us anything'.

I can access the Cursed City section on the AoS website just fine. It's still in the drop down menu under 'Games'.

 Bosskelot wrote:
If it truly is now OOP then that's completely bizarre since I doubt that initial run was enough to see a RoI on all those unique plastic sculpts.

I doubt even Indomitus itself saw a massive profit, but it was mainly used as a way to further draw people into the 40k ecosystem. Not to mention all of those models are now on sale separately and will have many years to make their costs back.

What is Cursed City drawing people into? How are they going to make their investment back on these 60 unique plastic sculpts off of one run?

or the iTs So eXpEnSiVE! claims have been stuck 20 years ago, in 2001....

Cronch wrote:

 Bosskelot wrote:
If it truly is now OOP then that's completely bizarre since I doubt that initial run was enough to see a RoI on all those unique plastic sculpts.

I doubt even Indomitus itself saw a massive profit, but it was mainly used as a way to further draw people into the 40k ecosystem. Not to mention all of those models are now on sale separately and will have many years to make their costs back.

What is Cursed City drawing people into? How are they going to make their investment back on these 60 unique plastic sculpts off of one run?

or the iTs So eXpEnSiVE! claims have been stuck 20 years ago, in 2001....

Maybe because GW has always been hilariously overpriced.

 Bosskelot wrote:
If it truly is now OOP then that's completely bizarre since I doubt that initial run was enough to see a RoI on all those unique plastic sculpts.

I doubt even Indomitus itself saw a massive profit, but it was mainly used as a way to further draw people into the 40k ecosystem. Not to mention all of those models are now on sale separately and will have many years to make their costs back.

What is Cursed City drawing people into? How are they going to make their investment back on these 60 unique plastic sculpts off of one run?

GW has never made any sense...
GW can make a unqiue spures for marines. I.e. vanguard marines for shadowspear.

Then REMAKE all those kits on new separate sprues... That's TWICE the amount sprue design/ work than is necessary.
At the same time they cant find resource to make plastic kits for armies still languishing in finecast / Old plastics?

Their whole business practice is all sort of whack.
They are perfectly happy to make limited run of plastic injected molds for all sorts of stuff, commemorative models, SM #43, random obscure side game I.e. Blood bowl etc.
But they dont support their bread and butter games like 40k.

Its stopped making sense to me a while back from a manufacturing perspective.
It only makes sense from a marketing create fake FOMO perspective

I say this is a good thing. Hopefully It gets more people spending money elsewhere hopefully and erode their market share.
Hell I know they ain't getting money from me nowadays. I dont even want to give FW money now.

"... we don't expect it..." just means "... we don't know any more than you do!".

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"... we don't expect it..." just means "... we don't know any more than you do!".

B-b-but I was told Nu!GW listened to it's Fellow Hobbyists(tm)!

 Arbitrator wrote:
B-b-but I was told Nu!GW listened to it's Fellow Hobbyists(tm)!

I know, right? They have a Facebook page and everything!!!1

Just got mine in the mail!

Can’t wait to dig in. Got off tomorrow so I’ll ship my Key of Ulfenkarn out to a british dude in Mad Doc’s FB loot group, then I’m gonna start painting.

I was really looking forward to this one because I like a lot of the minis, and BSF was a decent game. After watching some reviews I decided the game wasn’t that appealing to me, so I dropped my preorder and just ordered the Witch Hunter for Mordheim from a bitz seller.

My FGLS still has some copies in stock, but I think I’m going okay to spend the money on other stuff instead. If they still have them down the road I might pick it up if I want some more Undead to paint.....but the gameplay just doesn’t look that compelling.

 nels1031 wrote:
Just got mine in the mail!

Can’t wait to dig in. Got off tomorrow so I’ll ship my Key of Ulfenkarn out to a british dude in Mad Doc’s FB loot group, then I’m gonna start painting.

whats this FB group ?

 Argive wrote:
whats this FB group ?

The anti-scalper group.

Members get rare items in bulk and sell them on for cost + shipping. No gouging there.