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Also got my Brine and Bones, as well as a copy of the Crossroads Seven! I've been trying to get my hands on them since before the 3e release, glad I finally had the chance.
For now, only three sets will be available fitting these criteria:
( Order Initiate x3 (Available until 09/2020)
* Elijah Borgmann & Firebranded x3 (Available until 09/2020)
* Good Ol’ Boy x3 (Available until 09/2020)
These will be orderable from your LGS.
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Also, M2E boxes will be carried on the webstore until August 2020 for people willing to grab what they need before they get rebundled or discontinued.
It may be wise to wait until Black Friday or Easter when Wyrd has free addons if you order certain amounts.
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I understand why they're doing this for logistics reasons. They're providing this service in order to not upset older players while still repacking current sets in order to reduce the amount of SKUs stores have to carry. However, there has been some talk about the controversial choice to not allow people to buy new model profiles if the rest of the box contains old profiles with resculpts. Notably boxes like Lucius's Agent 46 might become a problem with players having to buy the entire new box of resculpts just to obtain one model. Additionally, there may be future issues going forward with boxes such as Nekima we know is getting a resculpt; some people have all their old Lilith crew models and can just run Nekima easily except for her totem. With the Nekima box getting resculpts, the totem technically doesn't qualify.
Personally, I'm fine with this as I'm only looking forward to the Burning Bridges box contents but I already have a Fire Golem. This also allows Wyrd to rearrange box contents at will which might be better for everyone down the line. But I understand that there may be others out there forced to buy a $50 box for a single model just so they can make their Nekima crew function.
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Sunno wrote: Bumping as I cant believe how little love there is for Malifaux. Amazing skirmish/warband games, in a great setting.
I think the thing is there's not a huge amount to talk about with Malifaux. It's a great game but anything new rules-wise isn't really trickled out and it's more a matter of just seeing sculpts when they arrive. That said, Explorers are really exciting and I can't wait to see when they're out and what they get
Sadly a bunch of things killed almost all my interest for Malifaux.
3rd edition made it pretty difficult for me to play the crews I have, as Kirai for example worked with the spirit keyword not only with her themed units. So I can either just field her ~5 specific types of models, which means no Night Terrors, no Manos the Risen and no Izamu which I love, or pay extra to field each of them...
As 2nd edition works incredibly well and I have only one friend to play with, who would have to switch too, switching to 3rd seems very unattracitve to me so far.
The new designs seem pretty hit'n'miss for me. Some of them look fine to really good but a big chunk of them look weird to just plain bad to me.
I have now waited 2 and a half years for Toshiro to become available again, which he is now in a box for 50$ with 5 minis I already have and without the possibility to get his 2nd edition card.
Playing mostly Necromunda and Battletech, Malifaux is awesome too!
There have been a handful of new releases over the past months. They are hidden amongst repacks.
January's new release is / was Geryon, ogre type things with three heads in their chests.
@shadox Third edition is not for everyone. You can get images of many of the 2nd edition cards online. Wargame vault prints 2nd edition cards for 0.50. Many of the older models are available on the used market.
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spaceelf wrote: There have been a handful of new releases over the past months. They are hidden amongst repacks.
Part of it is beta lag. Even the new releases are "known" rules wise. Just waiting on the sculpts.
Personally M3E is the game I always wanted and I adore playing it. It's one of my current top 4 along with Marvel, Infinity, and MonPoc though in truth, I haven't played a lot recently simply because Marvel has become so dominant lately.
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Red Harvest wrote: Have there been any updates/FAQ/errata to the M3E rules yet? I looked not to long ago, and found nothing.
I ask on AWP and the consensus was we should expect some errate before the end of Q1. What they would be was, of course a gak fest based primarily on personal bias, but the one theme was Ten Thunders' Versatile models were too good and Shen Long needed something to calm him down. I'd also expect something to make Dashel's summoning a bit easier.
On to why Malifaux isn't more popular, I think the gaps between editions, while it asn't handled badly, could have been done better and basically put much of the community (me unclided) on hiatus and a some of those players left to other games. The hosts of the REd Jokers podcast were one, and issued a final show stating as much.
The way they included the community in refining the rules was great. A lot of work went into it, and the game is much more improved from M2, and much easier for new players to jump in. but basically putting the game on hold fo rthe better part of a year was a mistake.
I think Corvus Beli are taking a better approach with the changing from Infinity 3rd to 4th edition. They're including the wider community as Wyrd did, but they're not putting the game on hold as we wait for the new rules, and are still releasing models as we wait. Maybe they learnt from Wyrd.
Anyway, if anything where I play in Melbourne the game is growing. The club I play in isn't huge, but we have a solid core of players now, with a few extra who dabble, and w're seeing a growing base across the city. I have zero worries about the game's health.
The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space.
Personally, I was pretty offended that my crews were illegal despite being specifically built together (ex: I bought some resser models for Tara's summoning as they were explicitly part of her summoning list, same goes for Lucius and the mimic keyword) only to have those interactions that weren't weird niches or spam lists but how we were encouraged to play removed.
I got over that, but now I don't really trust Wyrd re: invalidating other parts of my collection of their relatively pricey models (in 4th edition or whatever), and I can't be bothered to pay for updating my rules to an edition that gives me fewer options.
If I get back into the game, it will be with 2e rules. Wyrd burnt too many bridges for me to continue as a fan.
Red Harvest wrote: Have there been any updates/FAQ/errata to the M3E rules yet? I looked not to long ago, and found nothing.
I ask on AWP and the consensus was we should expect some errate before the end of Q1. What they would be was, of course a gak fest based primarily on personal bias, but the one theme was Ten Thunders' Versatile models were too good and Shen Long needed something to calm him down. I'd also expect something to make Dashel's summoning a bit easier.
On to why Malifaux isn't more popular, I think the gaps between editions, while it asn't handled badly, could have been done better and basically put much of the community (me unclided) on hiatus and a some of those players left to other games. The hosts of the REd Jokers podcast were one, and issued a final show stating as much.
The way they included the community in refining the rules was great. A lot of work went into it, and the game is much more improved from M2, and much easier for new players to jump in. but basically putting the game on hold fo rthe better part of a year was a mistake.
I think Corvus Beli are taking a better approach with the changing from Infinity 3rd to 4th edition. They're including the wider community as Wyrd did, but they're not putting the game on hold as we wait for the new rules, and are still releasing models as we wait. Maybe they learnt from Wyrd.
Anyway, if anything where I play in Melbourne the game is growing. The club I play in isn't huge, but we have a solid core of players now, with a few extra who dabble, and w're seeing a growing base across the city. I have zero worries about the game's health.
I think part of the hiatus was involuntary on Wyrd’s part. If I remember right they announced the last book for M2E and like a month later beta M3E webpages that pretty clearly WEREN’T meant to be up yet were found. So rather than pushing TOS, get feedback on the last M2E book, and quietly work on M3E in the background for another 6 months they HAD put M3E in the spotlight without actually being ready for its release or risk hemorrhaging even more players than they did.
Red Harvest wrote: Have there been any updates/FAQ/errata to the M3E rules yet? I looked not to long ago, and found nothing.
I ask on AWP and the consensus was we should expect some errate before the end of Q1. What they would be was, of course a gak fest based primarily on personal bias, but the one theme was Ten Thunders' Versatile models were too good and Shen Long needed something to calm him down. I'd also expect something to make Dashel's summoning a bit easier.
On to why Malifaux isn't more popular, I think the gaps between editions, while it asn't handled badly, could have been done better and basically put much of the community (me unclided) on hiatus and a some of those players left to other games. The hosts of the REd Jokers podcast were one, and issued a final show stating as much.
The way they included the community in refining the rules was great. A lot of work went into it, and the game is much more improved from M2, and much easier for new players to jump in. but basically putting the game on hold fo rthe better part of a year was a mistake.
I think Corvus Beli are taking a better approach with the changing from Infinity 3rd to 4th edition. They're including the wider community as Wyrd did, but they're not putting the game on hold as we wait for the new rules, and are still releasing models as we wait. Maybe they learnt from Wyrd.
Anyway, if anything where I play in Melbourne the game is growing. The club I play in isn't huge, but we have a solid core of players now, with a few extra who dabble, and w're seeing a growing base across the city. I have zero worries about the game's health.
I think part of the hiatus was involuntary on Wyrd’s part. If I remember right they announced the last book for M2E and like a month later beta M3E webpages that pretty clearly WEREN’T meant to be up yet were found. So rather than pushing TOS, get feedback on the last M2E book, and quietly work on M3E in the background for another 6 months they HAD put M3E in the spotlight without actually being ready for its release or risk hemorrhaging even more players than they did.
I think the thing with the 3E website is a bit of a misconception honestly. It leaked 2 weeks before Gencon and was finished anyway within those 2 weeks, the intention was very likely to have been to announce it at Gencon anyway to drum up hype
There has been an errata. It is dated March 3, 2020. If you google malifaux errata it is the first thing that comes up. However, if you look for it on the wyrd website under resources, it is not there. Good job wyrd. (It is on the Malifaux page on their site.)
Most of the changes were nerfs. Ten thunders got hit. Powerful models like stiched together and Agent 46 also got the nerf bat.
There was also news from GAMA. Three new boxes were announced:
Lord Cooper of the Explorer's Society (Think big game hunter. If you are looking for big bloodhound minis...)
Soldiers and Huntsmen (Coopers men)
and ... wait for it ...
Malisaurus Rex (Do you even need to ask... motorcycle flies over pool full of sharks)
There was also news from GAMA. Three new boxes were announced:
Lord Cooper of the Explorer's Society (Think big game hunter. If you are looking for big bloodhound minis...)
Soldiers and Huntsmen (Coopers men)
and ... wait for it ...
Malisaurus Rex (Do you even need to ask... motorcycle flies over pool full of sharks)
Wow, I completely missed those as well.
The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space.
Nice edition to the setting. They've been needing to get out of the city for a while and the whole big game hunter vibe fits well with the Victorian era while letting them expand things. Gotten a lot of people asking about the game interested in playing it with dinos.
Definitely excited as a Sonnia player, but starting to feel a little targeted by this whole Explorer Society thing.
First you take away McCabe to make him Explorers then replace him in Guild with a new master who is Explorer as well, Then you add a T-Rex and make a new unit that works for my favorite master.... sigh...
Yeah, I guess I understand what they do it, but it feels so transparently like a gimmick to push into new factions. If it weren't for the transition to 3e I'd be okay with it, but with that transition it feels pretty cynical now.
But Malifaux's history of "Hey, look at this nice model. Don't worry about it not being your faction, we'll make an exception just for you. No, dearie, it's not cheating on your old faction" dates well back to 1st edition.
I think it's very different when they remove pieces from factions in that shuffle. Organically expanding factions by providing overlap with existing ones is a marketing gimmick; removing options is at best full of themselves that they think their pulp narrative should take priority over gaming collections, and at worst a means of artificially chopping up collections to encourage new purchases, and either way I don't really trust them as a company after that.
