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Old-Four-Arms wrote: Whilst I fully agree that those are older designs, I'd very much like to see the remaining 3025 Mechs get a facelift as well.
In a Civil War themed box, however?
Old-Four-Arms wrote: As to giving a Fafnir to the "Davion" side, the existence of the Federated Commonwealth meant that both "halves" had access to both Davion and Steiner designs.
Of course they did, but it's the more Steiner of the two 'big' designs (the more Davion one being the Saggitare), especially given the Lyrans and their love of all things HGR.
Old-Four-Arms wrote: Coventry Metal Works produced their own upgraded variant around the same time, the VT-5S, which played a pivotal role during the FedCom Civil War as part of the Allied forces.
Ok... and? The Vulcan is an old 'Mech, not a very popular one, and it is certainly not an example of the iconic designs of the Civil War era.
That's what I'm getting at: A Civil War box should showcase Civil War-era designs. It should be fun and thematic to both sides of the conflict. Your first suggestion was to include a Javelin, FFS.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Its not enough mechs frankly. I had a Bloodnamed and a Star Colonel, I wanted to upgrade the Bloodnamed to a second Star Colonel but could not do so.
This saved me from an overspend but meant I had $75 character credit rather than $150.
I was able to get nearly all the spheroids I wanted but only the 3050 clan designs, none of the later ones. That being said I had misgivings over most of the post 3050 clan stars, only wanting some of the miniatures, wheras I wanted all the mechs in the 3050 stars.
I also cheated over the elementals buying one star pack and mixing that with the four points I get elsewhere and will do some cutting to make two 'complete' stars. I see no reason why my elemental points have to have five suits in them, losses can and will occur, and the model doesn't necessary represent the number of surviving warriors in a point.
I didnt buy any merch except faction dice. I bought dice for the five houses, Fed Com and the four initial invading clans. Anyone else can use plain 2d6. Though I have heard mixed reviews on the dice since I havent amended the order to get something else.. The pins, patches t-shirts etc are not so important to me, though I chose them with care also as they were complimentary. I got a mix of Davion, Kurita and Jade Falcon merch from my two pledges quotas. Unlike the dice nearly everyone says they are good quality.
Other than that I bought two Retaliation sets extra, one Lance pack extra to round out my spheroids, two Urbies so I have an Urbie lance and the set of five maps. I was disappointed I had no opportunity to buy the grassland/tundra map without the six pack, so I got the other four grassland maps and the Strana Mechty map. I didnt bother with Tukkayid maps as I would want to play them all and will make do with paper maps provided. I don't normally use maps frankly, but premium maps might get me into it and the price looks fair for what you get.
Finally I bought two record sheet #2 and one record sheet #1 to add to the other one I get at Star Colonel. I wanted two copies of the record sheet books so I can cut up one copy for laminating and keep the other as backup and photocopying.
All in all I am at a sweet spot for expenditure. I maybe should have got Comstar dice, another level II (though I will likely use 2750 mechs for remnants mercs and rebuilds rather than Com Guards. I certainly wont paint my mechs as Com Guards as they have limited utility sitting out most fights.
I wanted a third Retaliation but that was just greedy and didnt like the ide of six Wolverines. Some clan mechs will be missed but I will find them as singles on ebay later next year.
I would would like an extra command star to get duplicates of the mechs included, particularly the Stinger, but on reflection didnt want three Arches or Marauders nice though they are and will get extra Stingers and Locusts again from ebay rather than buying full packs to get them.
All in all I was rather restrained and 'only' spent over $650 on this. Not bad for a late pledge backer who missed the ickstarter. But then I have been playing Battletech longer than most of the forum membership has been alive. Still remember Battledroids.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
I get a bit OCD over hobby expenditure, working everything out, then reworking it according to actual expenditure. In some ways this saves me money as I get what I want and don't buy what I don't need. Yet it also gets me to upgun most of the limits. I end up buying several large mech forces rather than a company equivalent each of two favoured factions.
Here is my workout list
Spoiler:
Battletech to buy
ComStar Dice $5
Second Retaliation pack $40
Upgrade Bloodnamed to Star Colonel $150
yields +8 Forcepacks ($200 value)
+Command Star (2nd), Heavy Striker Star (2nd), Heavy Battle Star
+Command Lance (2nd), Fire Lance (2nd), Urban Lance (2nd),
+Comstar Battle Level II
+$150 to spend
Retaliation Pack $40
Comstar Dice $5
Premium Battlemat 5 map collection $120 or /w Tundra $150
Enamel Pins $8 each
T-Shirts $25 each
Dice $5 each pair
Coins $10 each
Patches $8 each
Double Bloodnamed
- 4 Forcepacks -$100
- Character -$75?
##Executioner, Timber Wolf, Nova, Grendel, Adder, +2 random, 2 points of elementals x2 - buy one extra
UrbanMech x4
##Command: Dire Wolf, Summoner, Stormcrow, Shadow Cat, Mist Lynx x1 (2) - buy two [Buy TWO, needed for Summoner and Stormcrow]
##Heavy Striker: Gargoyle, Hellbringer, Mad Dog, Ice Ferret, Viper x1 (2) - buy two [Buy TWO]
#Fire: Warhawk, Nova Cat, Cougar, Kit Fox, Fire Moth x1 - buy two [ Buy ONE, buy extra Kit Fox from ebay]
#Support: Night Gyr, Linebacker, Black Lanner, Battle Cobra, Arctic Cheetah (x1) - buy one [Buy ONE?]
#Heavy Battle: Turkina, Kingfisher, Crossbow, Ebon Jaguar, Huntsman (x1) - buy one [Buy ONE?]
Heavy: Stone Rhino (Behemoth), Supernova, Marauder IIC, Warhammer IIC, Hunchback IIC (x1) - buy one [ Consider dropping, buy Hunchback IIC from ebay]
Striker: Vapor Eagle, Conjurer, Horned Owl, Incubus, Piranha [ignore]
Ad Hoc: Kodiak, Fire Falcon, Hellion, Howler, Pack Hunter - buy one [Ignore, but one Kodiak from ebay]
##Elementals x1 - buy three [Buy TWO, have three elemental stars, two with bland faction camo]
9+1 Assault Mechs
2x Dire Wolf 100 Tons - Fire support. Wolf & Smoke Jaguar.
?x Kodiak 100 Tons - Close assault. Ghost Bear totem mech.
[0x] Stone Rhino 100 Tons - Fire support. Smoke Jaguar rare.
2x Executioner 95 Tons - Fast assault. Ghost Bear and Smoke Jaguar, dispersed.
Turkina 95 Tons - LATE Fire support. Jade Falcon totem mech.
Kingfisher 90 Tons - Assault. Ghost Bear.
[0x] Supernova 90 Tons - Laser fire support, not-Omni. Nova Cat.
Warhawk 85 Tons - Fire support. Smoke Jaguar primarily, Jade Falcon, Ghost Bear
[0x] Marauder IIC 85 Tons - LATE Fire support, not-Omni. Ghost Bear or Jade Falcon. Earlier for Home clans.
2x Gargoyle 80 Tons - Fast assault. Clan Wolf
[0x] Warhammer IIC 80 Tons - Fire Support, not-Omni. Snow Raven
Heavy Mechs
2x Timber Wolf 75 Tons - Fast assault. Wolf totem mech, dispersed.
Night Gyr 70 Tons - LATE Fire Support. Jade Falcon
2x Summoner 70 Tons - Fast heavy. Jade Falcon mech, dispersed.
Nova Cat 70 Tons - LATE Fire support. Nova Cat totem mech, copy of Night Gyr.
2x Hellbringer 65 tons - Fire support. Hells Horses, Jade Falcon.
Linebacker 65 Tons - LATE Fast Heavy. Wolf only.
Crossbow 65 Tons - Fast Heavy, early omni. Steel Viper.
Ebon Jaguar 65 Tons - LATE Fire support, replacement for Hellbringer. Smoke Jaguar totem mech.
2x Mad Dog 60 Tons - Fire Support. Smoke Jaguar, Ghost Bear, ubiquitous.
Medium Mechs
2x Stormcrow 55 Tons - Line mech. Smoke Jaguar, ubiquitous
Black Lanner 55 Tons - LATE Fast strike. Jade Falcon totem mech.
0x Vapor Eagle 55 Tons - LATE Fast medium. Steel Viper, Jade Falcon as isorla. Not required.
2x Nova 50 tons - Fast medium. Out of production, ubiquitous.
Huntsman 50 Tons - LATE Line Mech. Nova Cat.
[0x] Hunchack IIC 50 Tons - Line mech. Very common, especially Smoke Jaguar and Jade Falcon.
0x Conjurer 50 Tons - Second Line, not omni. Uncommon, ubiquitous
2x Grendel 45 Tons - Fast medium. Diamond Shark, ubiquitous for sale.
2x Shadow Cat 45 Tons - Line medium. Nova Cat, sold to Wolf and Smoke Jaguar.
2x Ice Ferret 45 Tons - Fast support. Wolf only.
2x Viper 40 Tons - Fast strike. Fire Mandrill, Ghost Bear.
Battle Cobra 40 Tons - Fast support. Steel Viper.
Light Mechs
2x Adder 35 Tons - Light fire support. Star Adder, common
Cougar 35 Tons - LATE Fast support. Jade Falcon.
0x Horned Owl 35 Tons - Light line. ??
Kit Fox 30 Tons - Light support. Cloud Cobra, Jade Falcon.
Arctic Cheetah 30 Tons - LATE Recon. Ice Hellion, Smoke Jaguar
0x Incubus 30 Tons - Recon, not omni. Jade Falcon.
?x Hellion 30 Tons - LATE Recon. Ice Hellion.
?x Pack Hunter 30 Tons - LATE Skirmish. Wolf-In-Exile
2x Mist Lynx 25 Tons - Recon. Smoke Jaguar, but common.
?x Fire Falcon 25 Tons - LATE Fire Support. Jade Falcon totem mech.
Fire Moth 20 Tons - Recon. Ghost Bear
0x Piranha 20 Tons - LATE Anti-infantry. Diamond Shark
?x Howler 20 Tons - Skirmisher, not omni. Jade Falcon.
1x Star Colonel pledge
1x Bloodnamed pledge
1x Retaliation force
2x UrbanMech
plus merch
STOP 18/12 finalised my selection. Deadline is 22/12.
Could not cancel Bloodnamed pledge and upgrade so had $75 credit only.
Added: $129.50 including postage.
1x Inner Sphere Retaliation $40
1x Urban Lance $20
1x Record Sheets Wave 1 @$5
2x Record Sheets Wave 2 @$5
1x Neoprene Map Set $120 Grassland/Alpine Map, Grassland/Desert Map, Grassland/Lunar Map, Grassland/Savanna and Strana Mechty Map. Map case.
Following occurs:
Limited clan, but with lots of salvage packs.
More extensive IS forces.
Clan:
(6A) 2x Dire Wolf, 2x Executioner, Warhawk, Gargoyle
(7H) 3x Timber Wolf, Summoner, Nova Cat, Hellbringer, Mad Dog
(8M) Stormcrow, 2x Nova, 2x Grendel, Shadow Cat, Ice Ferret, Viper
(6L) 2x Adder, Cougar, Kit Fox, Mist Lynx, Fire Moth
(10E) Makes two depleted stars of elementals 6x5, 3x4 and 1x3 suit points.
+17 random Clan mechs
This is a portion of one section of a very big .txt doc that covers my hobby planning expenditure and list building for just under a decade.
I log what I actually do.
Of particular note here are the force divisions, which accounted for the second Command lance pack which I didnt get, and thanks to my notes I now know I must rectify. These forces look rather fair. Commants welcome:
I also started a mini dossier based on post 3050 mechs, which I frankly don't know too well. I can rattle off the speed and armament of every 3025 mech, and know all the 3050 designs too, but not their configuations in full.
But I cant tell you what mechs are in most of the later books and wont recognise most from images. I looked through Sarna to get info of which mech belonged to which clan, and helped me decide whether I wanted them. By and large I did not. even so I was not able to satisfactorily make a number of forces for my clanners. I will have to see what salvage boxes come out of the magic bag anyway, so I stopped trying once I confirmed that most of the later clan stars are not of immediate value.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
I just got one of every 'Mech on offer, with the exception of the 10 pack as I already had the Beginner/ATOAC boxes. Then got a second box Star (so another Mad Cat/Executioner/Grendel/etc.), and then a second Ad Hoc star for a friend.
Didn't bother with the Elementals as I already have 15 bases of metal Elementsl (and they have 3 minis per base, otherwise you get "Elemental Mosh Pit" syndrome).
I do wish I'd picked up some ComStar dice though...
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Suspected that compared to you I had not really got that many mechs.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I just got one of every 'Mech on offer, with the exception of the 10 pack as I already had the Beginner/ATOAC boxes. Then got a second box Star (so another Mad Cat/Executioner/Grendel/etc.), and then a second Ad Hoc star for a friend.
Didn't bother with the Elementals as I already have 15 bases of metal Elementsl (and they have 3 minis per base, otherwise you get "Elemental Mosh Pit" syndrome).
I do wish I'd picked up some ComStar dice though...
eh it's not like comstar are a real faction anyway
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
Dry your tears, the dice are not high quality. I toyed with the idea of cancelling mine.
I would not want three to a base elementals, it wouldn't sit right with me. However I am liking more and more the idea of having 3-5 elementals per base, it looks more irregular and more natural and consider the 9 bases I got to be a blessing in disguise.
I do think not buying the elementals to be a mistake, they are much better scaled and sculpted than the metal ones, when you get yours from the core sets you will see this for yourself and say 'why didn't I pick up a box (or two) of these'.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Orlanth wrote: Dry your tears, the dice are not high quality. I toyed with the idea of cancelling mine.
Mine appear to be perfectly fine. Not sure what the problem with them was.
Orlanth wrote: I would not want three to a base elementals, it wouldn't sit right with me.
It's a practicality thing. I own a lot of Battle Armour, and trying to fit, say, 4 Kanazuchi or, worse, 5 Golems onto a single hex base? No. They're too big. It's the "Elemental Mosh Pit" issue I talked about. Even smaller ones like Gnomes look weird when you mash 5 of them onto a base.
Orlanth wrote: I do think not buying the elementals to be a mistake, they are much better scaled and sculpted than the metal ones, when you get yours from the core sets you will see this for yourself and say 'why didn't I pick up a box (or two) of these'.
I have plenty of Elementals, of multiple different varieties (regular, Gnome, Rogue Bear, Golem, Corona, etc.). I'll be fine.
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I am glad that your dice came out well but there were a lot of flaws. I have a couple of photos below showing the unevenness. Honestly it was kind of hard to tell at first just from holding them but when you lined them up against a flat surface it became apparent how bad the issues were.
Uneven indeed, this Fedrat will find it easy to hit with his autocannon when rolling 10d6.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Definitely dodged some autocannon bullets on the dice myself. I had considered getting more, but ended up with only the Wolf’s Dragoons ones from my pledge. They are okay, but noticeably not the same size, and I would never trust them for any actual gaming. Glad I went with other stuff instead of more dice.
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totalfailure wrote: Definitely dodged some autocannon bullets on the dice myself. I had considered getting more, but ended up with only the Wolf’s Dragoons ones from my pledge. They are okay, but noticeably not the same size, and I would never trust them for any actual gaming. Glad I went with other stuff instead of more dice.
I spent some on extra Davion dice so that was kind of annoying. The bigger loss was getting a one of each dice set to use as a courtesy to opponents/potential display item. They are so irregular and generally off that they are suitable for neither. Really hoping CGL comes through with something on that even if it is just credit for their store.
I wanted to get the complete dice set, but as CGL has yet to provide any indication of a valid resolution to the problem other than "we're working on it" I played it safe.
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
I think I'll just use the matched trio (two of one shade of grey, one of another) of Spirit Cat dice that I randomly got in one of the Chessex "Pound o' Dice" bags, even if they are Dark Age-themed. I've had them for about 8 years and never even played Battletech (only the Clix game) so getting into Battletech now I think it's kind of a funny coincidence, even if I'd prefer more of them.
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Alpharius Walks wrote: I am glad that your dice came out well but there were a lot of flaws. I have a couple of photos below showing the unevenness. Honestly it was kind of hard to tell at first just from holding them but when you lined them up against a flat surface it became apparent how bad the issues were.
So some of them are slightly smaller than the others? Or is it that some of them aren't actually cubes?
Alpharius Walks wrote: I am glad that your dice came out well but there were a lot of flaws. I have a couple of photos below showing the unevenness. Honestly it was kind of hard to tell at first just from holding them but when you lined them up against a flat surface it became apparent how bad the issues were.
So some of them are slightly smaller than the others? Or is it that some of them aren't actually cubes?
In my case two of my dice were not actually cubes. In the worst case the one corner was distorted such that looking down on it the angle was at off by at least 5 degrees (so an 85 degree angle). It almost looks like it was pulled out of the mold while not completely solid and that corner stuck. I'll post a picture if I can find them (I gave them to my kids so they could literally be buried at this point).
I've seen pics elsewhere of similar looking dice that are pretty visibly warped and not cube-like at all. Some looked like they had been stretched when they were pulled from the mold and I saw a few that looked like the mold was incompletely filled, i.e. they looked like a third of the die was missing.
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
BrianDavion wrote: I've just started reading it, but I've heard the winner is
Spoiler:
clan wolf
Well...
Spoiler:
Not only is it clan wolf, but they reduce the Falcons to non-entity and manage to turn on the Dragoons. All the while Devlin Stone goes "just as I planned it all!!!".
BrianDavion wrote: I've just started reading it, but I've heard the winner is
Spoiler:
clan wolf
Well...
Spoiler:
Not only is it clan wolf, but they reduce the Falcons to non-entity and manage to turn on the Dragoons. All the while Devlin Stone goes "just as I planned it all!!!".
Are the new KSBT minis a larger scale than the old Ral Partha/Ironwind metals? I was just watching a YouTube video and either they're significantly larger or the guy has tiny hands that I never noticed, lol. Or that I'm remembering the old 1/285 scale wrong I suppose...
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