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Yeah I was starting to think the same thing.
   
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It's not a fusion gun. It is already solved: Death spinner or a variant.
   
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Looks way too big for an underslung, one-handed normal fusion gun to me.

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My first thought was something Reaper related, but I then went to Warp Spider since it's clearly pulling design cues from the shredder.

I think I might prefer the old design, but that's too small a pic to really judge just yet.

Unless the picture has been flipped, the gun's in the left hand which doesn't happen often with regular squad members. Makes me think it might be a character.

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Everyone seems to have already covered the obvious, so I'm going to throw a wild card into the pot. There's a slim chance that this could actually be a heavy redesign for the Fire Dragon's Fire Pike.

That section in the middle looks like the end to the Fusion Guns/Firepike. The Fire Pike is clearly a large two handed weapon (even though it never used to have a top grip). That cartridge at the bottom looks like the types of cartridges we see on other kinds of Melta style weapons (see Tau Fusion Blasters) could be them trying to bring a small bit of similarity to weapon type designs. People could see "oh its the pop can cartridge, that's a melta weapon" without having to ask their opponent what everything does.

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 Tawnis wrote:
The Fire Pike is clearly a large two handed weapon (even though it never used to have a top grip).


3rd ed model did. I'd be very suprised if that was what this is though.
   
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Waiting for the Aeldari version of Cawl to pop out of the Webway with "New" weapons for all the craftworlds that have been in the testing phase since the Humans had their little Mon'keigh civil war. Probably been testing them on the exodite worlds with the rangers teaching the exodites how to become exarchs in a shorter amount of time. The exodites have been breeeding like rabbits so the Eldar are no longer a dying race either.

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I was expecting it to be something from the Autarch but if it is it looks more like a heavy weapon than a special weapon. Maybe a heavy fusion weapon as an ancient weapon?
But then again there are strong Warpspider vibes- there looks to be recessed channels on the bulb muzzle which could be a redesigned Warpspinner. Hoping its Spiders.. On another note I'sexpecting some off these to be part fo the preview around New Year? Its a bit of a strong pitch none theme to show nothing [I know, I know..the have done much worse before but the Christmas/New Year preview should be decent].
   
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Funnily, tau players are going "WTF, I thought we were next...but all the hype is for Eldar".

Granted, we know that Tau are just getting Dark Strider and Codex, but still funny to see the hype train just blast through that station!

The reliable rumour (who's been 100% thus far) did say a large Eldar release, but also said "incomplete", so I expect some models to not be redone. IMHO, these will be Dragons and Dark Reapers as far as aspects go.
   
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Putting a thread coil under a warpspinner is a nice touch. Yet anyone in to sewing or fishing will crinch at the malfunction probability

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 silverstu wrote:
On another note I'sexpecting some off these to be part fo the preview around New Year? Its a bit of a strong pitch none theme to show nothing [I know, I know..the have done much worse before but the Christmas/New Year preview should be decent].


I fully expect GW will squeeze a lot of mileage out of this Eldar release. The last time we had a themed rumour engine like this it was following the Shadowspear unveil and lead to a bunch of new CSM kits.

Orks had enough models to cover two separate studio previews and Eldar are shaping up to have at least as many. I wouldn't be surprised if the xmas/new year reveal was just a peak at the first release (possibly that rumoured Rangers vs Chaos set), with further previews of new stuff and the main codex unveil continuing up to LVO.
   
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 Theophony wrote:
Waiting for the Aeldari version of Cawl to pop out of the Webway with "New" weapons for all the craftworlds that have been in the testing phase since the Humans had their little Mon'keigh civil war. Probably been testing them on the exodite worlds with the rangers teaching the exodites how to become exarchs in a shorter amount of time. The exodites have been breeeding like rabbits so the Eldar are no longer a dying race either.


There is no need for Eldar Cawl, as the lore is open to any number of obscure Aspects and their respective Phoenix Lords. Crimson Hunters and Shadow Spectres were added throughout the ages and we know about one other by name, Slicing Orbs. It would be great to see yet another one, but after 25 years of waiting I won't be picky if we just get new models for old ones.
   
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 xttz wrote:
 silverstu wrote:
On another note I'sexpecting some off these to be part fo the preview around New Year? Its a bit of a strong pitch none theme to show nothing [I know, I know..the have done much worse before but the Christmas/New Year preview should be decent].


I fully expect GW will squeeze a lot of mileage out of this Eldar release. The last time we had a themed rumour engine like this it was following the Shadowspear unveil and lead to a bunch of new CSM kits.

Orks had enough models to cover two separate studio previews and Eldar are shaping up to have at least as many. I wouldn't be surprised if the xmas/new year reveal was just a peak at the first release (possibly that rumoured Rangers vs Chaos set), with further previews of new stuff and the main codex unveil continuing up to LVO.


Yeah I could see 3 sets/waves - the Chaos vs Eldar Rangers box, a Corsair killteam set and then a codex release around April.It looks like they are going big with Eldar so I hope it works but its great to see.
   
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My money is on Warp Spiders. I can't really imagine what would have to be in GW design team heads if there were tasked with large Eldar update and didn't redesign the only Aspect without any changes in 25 years. Rest of them had three or two in case of Swooping Hawks.

Point of order - Warp Spiders are not the only Aspect that's on V1. Even ignoring the more recent flyer aspect, the Shining Spears are also on their first iteration, though I recall them being released during 3rd ed rather than late 1st/early 2nd.

I still don't follow the thinking that didn't see them redone when the jetbikes were, though.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

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Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.
Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.
   
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 Dysartes wrote:
Point of order - Warp Spiders are not the only Aspect that's on V1. Even ignoring the more recent flyer aspect, the Shining Spears are also on their first iteration, though I recall them being released during 3rd ed rather than late 1st/early 2nd.

I still don't follow the thinking that didn't see them redone when the jetbikes were, though.


Remember seeing the prototype for the new jetbikes in 2007, and Jes saying we wouldn't get them for a while because they'd need to redo all the other jetbikes to match them. Just 8 short years later we got them....without updated Shining Spears.
   
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 dan2026 wrote:
Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.
Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.


They are the rock stars of the craftworlds. To not have them would most certainly be rubbish.

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 dan2026 wrote:
Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.
Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.


I think they will, unfortunately. At least in this first big wave.

My reasoning...

1. Reliable rumour source stated "incomplete" release.
2. Echoes of Awakening, Ritual of the Damned - Striking Scorpion blurb of attack on Guardsmen. Probably new Scorpions.
3. Echoes of Awakening, For the Greater Good - Ancient relic armour recovered by Warp Spiders. New Spiders and Phoenix Lord?
4. New Rangers and bike exhaust already shown.

And no more mention of Eldar in the series.

So my thoughts are that only Warp Spiders and Scorpions will get new kits from the Aspects (alongside the Banshees). Each will probably have it's Phoenix Lord return too. We may see Dragons, Hawks and Reapers at a later date, just not this wave. GW wants to sell us new Eldar kits, not remakes.

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 bullyboy wrote:

So my thoughts are that only Warp Spiders and Scorpions will get new kits from the Aspects (alongside the Banshees). Each will probably have it's Phoenix Lord return too. We may see Dragons, Hawks and Reapers at a later date, just not this wave. GW wants to sell us new Eldar kits, not remakes.


What I really hope is that we get some redone kits and a few new kits, and that the sales numbers of the old kits are favorable. So GW can look at actual comparable numbers and see that they don’t need to just crank new stuff, but upgrading old stuff still makes good money.

   
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 bullyboy wrote:
 dan2026 wrote:
Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.
Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.


I think they will, unfortunately. At least in this first big wave.

My reasoning...

1. Reliable rumour source stated "incomplete" release.
2. Echoes of Awakening, Ritual of the Damned - Striking Scorpion blurb of attack on Guardsmen. Probably new Scorpions.
3. Echoes of Awakening, For the Greater Good - Ancient relic armour recovered by Warp Spiders. New Spiders and Phoenix Lord?
4. New Rangers and bike exhaust already shown.

And no more mention of Eldar in the series.

So my thoughts are that only Warp Spiders and Scorpions will get new kits from the Aspects (alongside the Banshees). Each will probably have it's Phoenix Lord return too. We may see Dragons, Hawks and Reapers at a later date, just not this wave. GW wants to sell us new Eldar kits, not remakes.

I'd be down with Spiders and Scorpions, always my favorite two shrines followed by banshees.

It would be fun with the Chaos vs. Eldar that has been teased to finally see Arhra the Fallen Phoenix Lord of the Scorpions.

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I'm thinking it looks like Dark Reapers Exach special weapon, If I had to guess.

   
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 dan2026 wrote:
Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.
Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.


I also think they'll be left out. As far as the aspects go, they're relatively recent (4th edition!) and fairly static so you don't have the annoyance of trying to do graceful, leaping models in finecast/metal. Same goes for the Fire Dragons, which is a shame because they've always been my favourite shrine and I'd buy a new Fire Dragon kit in a heartbeat despite having 30 in metal.

The Warp Spiders are 2nd edition (!) and while they've held up better than most 2nd edition models (as do most of the 2nd edition eldar to be fair) the sculpts are clearly showing their age. The Swooping Hawks are 3rd edition and they're a real pain in metal/finecast with the spindly parts and small connection points. Not that I'm looking forward to new models using those curved flight stands, mind. The Shining Spears irritate me because they're still riding the 2nd edition jetbikes when we've had the updated jetbikes for windriders for years.Striking Scorpions aren't too bad being 4th edition, but they're more on the dynamic side than Reapers/Dragons, so would probably benefit more from an update.

So my 'order of urgency' for aspects would probably have the Spiders/Hawks/Spears first, then the Scorpions, and finally the Dragons/Reapers bringing up the rear.

As to this rumour engine, I'm with the folks saying it's a deathspinner.

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 Theophony wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
 dan2026 wrote:
Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.
Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.


I think they will, unfortunately. At least in this first big wave.

My reasoning...

1. Reliable rumour source stated "incomplete" release.
2. Echoes of Awakening, Ritual of the Damned - Striking Scorpion blurb of attack on Guardsmen. Probably new Scorpions.
3. Echoes of Awakening, For the Greater Good - Ancient relic armour recovered by Warp Spiders. New Spiders and Phoenix Lord?
4. New Rangers and bike exhaust already shown.

And no more mention of Eldar in the series.

So my thoughts are that only Warp Spiders and Scorpions will get new kits from the Aspects (alongside the Banshees). Each will probably have it's Phoenix Lord return too. We may see Dragons, Hawks and Reapers at a later date, just not this wave. GW wants to sell us new Eldar kits, not remakes.

I'd be down with Spiders and Scorpions, always my favorite two shrines followed by banshees.

It would be fun with the Chaos vs. Eldar that has been teased to finally see Arhra the Fallen Phoenix Lord of the Scorpions.


Pretty sure you can already get him…

Loving the Eldar teases though, looking great! May even have to reinvigorate my very old Eldar army!
   
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Lord Zarkov wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
 dan2026 wrote:
Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.
Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.


I think they will, unfortunately. At least in this first big wave.

My reasoning...

1. Reliable rumour source stated "incomplete" release.
2. Echoes of Awakening, Ritual of the Damned - Striking Scorpion blurb of attack on Guardsmen. Probably new Scorpions.
3. Echoes of Awakening, For the Greater Good - Ancient relic armour recovered by Warp Spiders. New Spiders and Phoenix Lord?
4. New Rangers and bike exhaust already shown.

And no more mention of Eldar in the series.

So my thoughts are that only Warp Spiders and Scorpions will get new kits from the Aspects (alongside the Banshees). Each will probably have it's Phoenix Lord return too. We may see Dragons, Hawks and Reapers at a later date, just not this wave. GW wants to sell us new Eldar kits, not remakes.

I'd be down with Spiders and Scorpions, always my favorite two shrines followed by banshees.

It would be fun with the Chaos vs. Eldar that has been teased to finally see Arhra the Fallen Phoenix Lord of the Scorpions.


Pretty sure you can already get him…

Loving the Eldar teases though, looking great! May even have to reinvigorate my very old Eldar army!

Did they finally say he is Arhra? Because I thought Arhra was actually fallen to chaos, not just a dark Eldar.

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

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 Theophony wrote:
Waiting for the Aeldari version of Cawl to pop out of the Webway with "New" weapons for all the craftworlds that have been in the testing phase since the Humans had their little Mon'keigh civil war. Probably been testing them on the exodite worlds with the rangers teaching the exodites how to become exarchs in a shorter amount of time. The exodites have been breeeding like rabbits so the Eldar are no longer a dying race either.


Shhhh! GW might hear you!


 
   
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 Theophony wrote:
Lord Zarkov wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
 dan2026 wrote:
Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.
Please don't let Dark Reapers be left out.


I think they will, unfortunately. At least in this first big wave.

My reasoning...

1. Reliable rumour source stated "incomplete" release.
2. Echoes of Awakening, Ritual of the Damned - Striking Scorpion blurb of attack on Guardsmen. Probably new Scorpions.
3. Echoes of Awakening, For the Greater Good - Ancient relic armour recovered by Warp Spiders. New Spiders and Phoenix Lord?
4. New Rangers and bike exhaust already shown.

And no more mention of Eldar in the series.

So my thoughts are that only Warp Spiders and Scorpions will get new kits from the Aspects (alongside the Banshees). Each will probably have it's Phoenix Lord return too. We may see Dragons, Hawks and Reapers at a later date, just not this wave. GW wants to sell us new Eldar kits, not remakes.

I'd be down with Spiders and Scorpions, always my favorite two shrines followed by banshees.

It would be fun with the Chaos vs. Eldar that has been teased to finally see Arhra the Fallen Phoenix Lord of the Scorpions.


Pretty sure you can already get him…

Loving the Eldar teases though, looking great! May even have to reinvigorate my very old Eldar army!

Did they finally say he is Arhra? Because I thought Arhra was actually fallen to chaos, not just a dark Eldar.


Drazhar’s origin is officially unknown still (even his name is a pseudonym conferred by others), but it is confirmed that Arhra founded the Incubi and let’s be honest when an Incubi Phoenix Lord rocks up out of nowhere, odds are it’s the same Phoenix Lord that founded the Incubi…

Arhra ‘burned with the dark light of Chaos’ but what that actually means is somewhat unclear, nor is what happened to him between his defeat by Karandhras and Drazhar appearing out of nowhere.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

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