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Combat Jumping Ragik






Beyond the Beltway

 Dr H wrote:
The picture in question is titled "Butterfly Girl". Can't say where I got it from exactly, but was likely looking for Butterfly images for reference.
A quick google brings up a cropped image of the original:
Spoiler:

She's not scary or disturbing in any way...

Except that she is a twinkle magic using cannibal. I do have a copy of the game. Very tongue in cheek. To be expected, considering it is from Kenzer & Co.

Anyway, current Infinity stuff is "32mm" --scare quotes intentional. If that mini stands 34mm tall, it's close enough.

Infinity players (some) do like ladders on the sides of buildings. Maybe more than one? Or even something fire-escape like?

I used to do a lot of woodworking. Clutter is a bad thing when there are so many sharp, sharp things around. One learns very quickly. I can empathize with the space change. I used to have the spare bedroom as my hobby room. Now, I've been relegated to the Basement-- more room, but it's unfinished space and the HVAC unit is there. Hard to listen to music with the furnace a-roaring. C'est la vie, as the Portuguese say.

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 Red Harvest wrote:
...Except that she is a twinkle magic using cannibal...
But she's sooooo adorable.
Anyway, cannibals are not a problem if they're a different species (unless they diversify).

Anyway, current Infinity stuff is "32mm" --scare quotes intentional. If that mini stands 34mm tall, it's close enough.
That, she is; 34mm tall / 32mm to the eyes (base included).

Infinity players (some) do like ladders on the sides of buildings. Maybe more than one? Or even something fire-escape like?
With how tall this building is (see below), there does need to be some kind of way to get on the roof.
But in this case it's only for storage for the workshop. Without anyone regularly working up there it's a bit much to have a fire-escape, and that would extend the building's footprint more (I'd like to keep it to what it is and not have to add a messy extension).
Maybe the shop has some kind of forklift mech' to place and retrieve boxes/pallets...
...maybe I'll build one as a companion to this. Infinity games seem to like scattered vehicles and the like...

I used to do a lot of woodworking. Clutter is a bad thing when there are so many sharp, sharp things around. One learns very quickly. I can empathize with the space change. I used to have the spare bedroom as my hobby room. Now, I've been relegated to the Basement-- more room, but it's unfinished space and the HVAC unit is there. Hard to listen to music with the furnace a-roaring. C'est la vie, as the Portuguese say.
No danger of me tripping as I move about this space, my chair has wheels.

Progress.
Rear railing on.

Ladder to be added next.

And I've framed the shop's signboard. (Not attached yet)
Also took the opportunity to show the scale of this building.


Not sure yet how I'll fill in the sign yet; painted, printed, peeling, loose boards, electronic screen... Thoughts welcome on that front. To fit the above board space.


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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Happy New cutting mat day Doc !

   
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Beyond the Beltway

 Dr H wrote:
 Red Harvest wrote:
...Except that she is a twinkle magic using cannibal...
But she's sooooo adorable.

See: Manic Pixie Dream Girl. Maybe you're taking it a bit literally?

No more off topic. Help an old man remember. What is that material you are using in the railing? It reminds me of something called illustration board. There was a fellow on the old Infinity forum who used it extensively.

Printed will work for the sign. Maybe with the potential for some raised letters. I'm thinking of those nice mdf letters Graven used on his donut shop.

 
   
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Big H: Ha, yes. Picked up the cheapest A2 board that had more than just squares to protect the new desk.

Red Harvest wrote:...No more off topic. Help an old man remember. What is that material you are using in the railing? It reminds me of something called illustration board. There was a fellow on the old Infinity forum who used it extensively.
Mmm, Pixie dream girl... hm? oh yes, ern...
It appears to be recycled card, y'know obviously recycled; you can see the bits.
I think it came as some packaging for something, a divider in a box. I have one large sheet of it in my collection of card pieces.
It was about the right thickness for my purposes.
Sands quite nicely, goes very fuzzy as you do it but that brushes off.
Can't give more information than that.

Printed will work for the sign. Maybe with the potential for some raised letters. I'm thinking of those nice mdf letters Graven used on his donut shop.
It's a thought. Not too "low-tech" for the Infinity universe?

Oh yeah, and progress:
Supports for the sign and the ladder on (went for a "gaming terrain" ladder rather than realistic with the spacing)

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The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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Ladder will do fine. Maybe a ledge ~4" up for a mini to rest. Movement in Infinity is usually in 4" increments.


 
   
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 Red Harvest wrote:
Ladder will do fine. Maybe a ledge ~4" up for a mini to rest. Movement in Infinity is usually in 4" increments.
Oh really... *he says stroking his beard*

I can do that:

Also started to think about the clutter on the roof.
You'll also spy the start of a drainpipe for the flat roof. I'll putty the corner on later. Left a space at the bottom for painting water streaks etc...

I'm not going to add a railing to the platform as that'll just hamper placement of mini's on it.
The little rectangle of diamond-plate should serve to "lock" into the bases of larger models to reduce the risk of them falling off.
4 inches to that platform, 5.5" to the roof as it happens.

Now to make some pallets and various sizes of cardboard box.
And I'll add some slings to the wooden boxes for them to be crane-d in. They do look quite large to manhandle next to her there.

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The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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Beyond the Beltway

That works very well. I will, naturally, be borrowing the idea. (And giving you credit, naturally.)

 
   
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_THAT_ is a really clever way to allow movement in the 4" or so increments (whatever is allowed under one's ruleset of choice) _and_ look like a normal, functional part of the build. Wow!

"He fears his fate too much, or his desserts are small, who will not put it to a single touch; to win- or lose- it all."

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Thanks Red'. Borrow away, that's why I post these things.

Thanks Meer_Cat. I'm all for keeping everything looking like it should / would / could be there in-universe on my models.

I've been scattering away on this and I think I have enough... (any more and there won't be room more the miniatures )

These aren't glued down yet (and most will have to wait until I've re-glued the roof part that I've left loose for painting), except for the 2 behind the sign.
The block of wooden boxes are glued together as one as they are made from spare parts and don't have the full compliment of sides.
And the cardboard boxes are glued to their respective pallets.

Pallets will get more details to make them more "woody", and they will get some tarp's to partially cover them (as they are on the roof they may get rained on).

Positions of the various boxes are not set, as you will see below. I'd like some input on miniature movement through cramped spaces: How large of a gap is required? What rules are there for climbing over obstacles? Any problems you can see in these particular layouts?
Pictures will have numbers for ease of reference:
1.


2.


3.


4.


I'll now turn to detailing the exterior surfaces (a few rivets here and there, some futuristic panels everywhere else...)
You didn't think I'd leave it so flat and clean, did you?!


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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Wisconsin

I have been waiting to see if you were going to get back to this project, looking very smart Doc. Glad you added the lass to the pics gives me a better idea how large the building is.
   
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Oh yeah, that reminded me to change the title.

Thanks York'. Ja, She also helped me get the size of the railings right. Might as well keep her in the photos.

Still looking for thoughts on how game miniatures will interact with the above clutter arrangements. Any game, I know not of any of them, not just Infinity.

Progress:
Surface details, and tidying up some edges (and cleaning the windows of PVA-smears).

Including rivets.

Not sure there is much more to do on this now. Will have to have a think and then it may be painting time...
Obviously, there is putty work.

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The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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Not where I should be

Stunning as is standard from you. Brilliant work, beautiful realistic scatter. I have no idea really on the game side of things, but have always taken a rule of thumb as mucking about with at least 2x 40mm based models, something like a couple terminators see how they "fit", can they get base to base? Also nothing wrong with leaving the scatter loose, just put it on the equivalent to a 8x4 of plywood, standard protection procedure for all roofing.




 
   
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agree with Cam, leave it loose - that'd be my druthers, would also allow it a bit more modularity instead of "Oh it's that building again" syndrome.

Love the ladder, and the ladder rest. Also totally stealing that idea - this is an issue my son and I have a lot as a) I like to make terrain b) he likes to perch c) we're never entirely 100% sure how to get models in games TO said perching spots 'legally' and that idea would likely completely solve this (yay!)

   
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Beyond the Beltway

Leave it loose. The scatter.

Movement, just make sure there is enough space for the base of the mini to rest flat on the surface. For cover, a mini needs to be in base contact with the piece to claim cover.

To improve your knowledge, you can get the Infinity rules free, here on this page https://infinitythegame.com/resources/downloads

Grab the rules and Human Sphere N3 rules to start.

Or just use the wiki. http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Main_Page

 
   
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Exceptional work as per usual..; Every time I come in here, I think to myself: "I should really work on some terrain". Then I get distracted by minis of course, but still...

A Squeaky Waaagh!!

Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'

Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' 
   
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I had considered leaving them loose, I just didn't want to colour opinions if the gaming world had other ideas. But as we few agree, the rest of the world will have to make do.

Thanks Cam'.

Thanks Guild'.
Glad you also liked the platform. As it's so useful I'll leave some of my thoughts on it here.
This was the first thing I thought of when Red' mentioned having a platform for miniatures to move to, these things exist IRL for this purpose.
Width was a matter of ladder width plus a bit.
I then cut the hole, rounded as that is common. It ended up slightly off centre of the piece of card I was using (planned to cut down afterwards) and thought that a larger step to one side would be a good feature; will be painted to reflect this. The size of the hole was to be smaller than a miniature base but wide enough for the ladder or the miniature person (sans base) to climb through.
Then I cut the card to length/depth. Chosen to be long enough for a model's base to fit on enough to support the mini'. Larger bases may overlap, but should still support the model.
The section of diamond plate was a piece I had laying about and serves to give the impression of grip on the surface and could either lock into a miniature's base or lean the model into the building reducing the risk of falling off.
The rest is just supports to show it can take the weight and to make it sturdy enough to not be knocked off of the model.
No railings so that models can be placed on regardless of size of miniature or base.

Thanks Red'. Yeah, I have read over the rules for Inifinity as I have read the 40K rulebook. But it's no substitute for having played the games. I like to hear what actual players think of things (at least for the things I plan to sell, I can go over the top with my own models).

Thanks CK. I keep thinking "I want to go back to a miniature for a change" and keep finding excuses for building terrain.
There will be miniatures soon, unless I build the "forklift / loader" to go with this workshop...

I've now added the putty work and further details to these boxes etc.
Found some nice fabric-type stuff in my box of "material/fabric" things. I was looking for tissue, but this is more hard-wearing if these are to be left loose and therefore handled.
And I added ribbon to use as lifting straps on the two fixed boxes. Bit of a mess to work with in the way I tried, but should do the job.


I think this is all the modelling done on this.
It may be time to prime...
Need to find a good way to protect the windows. may be a combination of tape, card and blu-tack.


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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Mostly, on my phone.

I keep looking at this in awe. It's so good, detailed and characterful.

Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
Solar_Lion: "Man this sums up your blog nicely."

Anpu-adom: "being Geek is about Love. Some love broadly. Some love deeply. And then there are people like Graven.

 
   
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Those crates with the tarp over them... especially the real mini-boxes... wow! How did you do the tarps? Thin plastic sheet and a heat gun?

   
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Brilliant stuff Dr. H, all those little crates and boxes.. so good. In the Tim Burton Batman movie Joker asks where does he get all those wonderful toys, I want to ask how does he make all that wonderful terrain.
   
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Thanks CK. I keep thinking "I want to go back to a miniature for a change" and keep finding excuses for building terrain.
There will be miniatures soon, unless I build the "forklift / loader" to go with this workshop...


You realize the forklift counts as both, right? WOuld love to see you have a go at it, btw!

I love all the little details that make this build come to life...The open boxes are a touch of genius!

A Squeaky Waaagh!!

Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'

Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' 
   
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Great work Doc !

I really like the car board box's and the lifting straps

   
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Catching up.
Priming is in progress, but taking time; it's a bit big for the airbrush hood, and airbrushing the inside is not possible without getting a face-full of paint.

Thanks Graven'.

Thanks Gits'. I was going to use tissue for the tarps but I found a sheet of some kind of fabric. I think it came from some packaging. Lots of crisscrossing fibres.
Soaked in PVA/water and laid over the boxes. Then a few bits of PVA to stick down the more unruly corners.

Thanks York'. I try to share.

Thanks CK. Forklift is a possibility.

Thanks Big H.


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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Thanks Dr H. That really came out spectacularly.

   
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No worries Gits'. Sorry I don't have a name for the material.

Enough is enough... time to paint.

Hexagons of paper and Tamiya tape should be enough for the windows.
Primed and "blacked" as is usual.

Outside/roof:


Inside and scattered bits:

I almost forgot lights for the inside. So I knocked up a couple of small strip-lights with plasticard around a piece of the side of a CD case (that had been chopped up for other reasons). You may just be able to see the ridges.
The random shelf and box (with phone) will be attached on the back wall, inside, after painting them.

The many individual bits should mean that I can keep swapping and changing to keep painting without needing to wait.

Also, with my new, separate, building area I've started the next project...


...It's a forklift, obviously. I didn't need to tell you that.
This is the "hips" of the thing and will have 4 legs sprouting from those protrusions. I have some plastic-tubes incoming to build them with.

Using an old paint pot for the main bulk, it's been filled with plaster and should give it a low centre of gravity to avoid it being knocked over.
The legs are pinned into the paint pot (a Dremel and a drill bit made short work of that), you can see the ends sticking out there.

Being made of metal I had the idea to attach the top half to the hips and legs with a magnet. It'll be able to swivel if nothing else.
The magnet still needs to be fully installed into that top piece so it looks a little loose at the moment ('coz it is, like).

Time to give motivation a kick and get going.


The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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Blocking in colours is taking it's time.
Looking a bit garish at the mo', that will change.

So much to do...

And progress on the forklift is more dramatic:
A few things of note...

I did start on a cab for the driver, but didn't like where it was going so will start that again at some point.

The legs have started from where we were above and then;
I attached plastic tube (7.9mm) to the pins and capped them with plasticard.
Then attached the 2 triangular pieces (per leg) to work as the hinges for the "hips" swivel motion. (not actually working, this is a stationary model)
The above were pre-drilled for the 2 thin (1.6mm) plastic rods (each). The rods were pushed through both triangles and a section of plastic tube (3.2mm) was threaded on them before gluing.
The pistons were then added to match these pieces of tube and glued.

...I started with the shorter pistons, and even though they do have enough room for the legs to swivel sufficiently, I thought a bit of extra range of motion was required and added the longer pistons for what has been dubbed the "front"...

Then the vertical hinge was built for each "hip" joint.
A piece of square tube (7.9mm) and a length of round tube (4.8mm) were sandwiched between the side pieces and rivets added.
A length of square tube (7.9mm) was added for the "thigh" of each leg.
Pistons were made above them and attach to the wip "knee" joint that will attach to upright "shins" (made of 9.5mm square tube) that will go to the feet on the ground.


The waist, pictured at the bottom there was finished before all this, but I had forgotten to take any photos of it's creation.
A couple of strips of thin plasticard was glued around to pieces of sprue above the "hips" and small pieces of plastic rod were glued on to the upper piece to "ride" within this circle and centralise the rotation about the magnet.
The blackening there is pencil lead to act as a lubricant.

Onwards...

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The army- ~2295 points (built).

* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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Show off.

Brilliant concept and execution, stunning work.

Just to be able to say something, the tarps look dark, maybe a hint of green just to break up the colour.

Being silly there in case you didn't know. Watching with interest, so much inspirational work.

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Lol so muich for a simple forkligt :p. Amazing work, and the paintjob's coming along nicely as well

A Squeaky Waaagh!!

Camkhieri: "And another very cool thing, my phones predictive text actually gave me chicken as an option after typing robot, how cool is that."'

Meercat: "All eyes turned to the horizon and beheld, in lonely and menacing grandeur, the silhouette of a single Grot robot chicken; a portent of evil days to come."
From 'The Plucking of Gindoo Phlem' 
   
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Great work! These draped up crates look really good, making me forget that I first wanted to comment on how too many hexes there are on everything! And that lift thingy is looking very promising, can't wait to see it in the next stage of construction/assembly. Cheers!

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Finished tarps look fantastic!

   
 
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