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2017/08/10 18:08:12
Subject: (Not) Santas Workshop of the Strange, Wierd, and Wonderful - 8 Aug -THANATOS 3 - pg 65!
Love that cut-away. Wonderful idea. Perfect for display, and even play...
That compass cutter you have, the yellow and black tool in a few of your photos, where did you get it?I've been meaning to get a better one -- better than the one I currently have-- for a while now.
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2017/08/10 21:38:10
Subject: Re:(Not) Santas Workshop of the Strange, Wierd, and Wonderful - 8 Aug -THANATOS 3 - pg 65!
Red Harvest wrote:Love that cut-away. Wonderful idea. Perfect for display, and even play...
That compass cutter you have, the yellow and black tool in a few of your photos, where did you get it?I've been meaning to get a better one -- better than the one I currently have-- for a while now.
Thank you Red Harvest!
Currently I use this here:
https://smile.amazon.de/gp/product/B000BK7NWC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It is OK, but I'm still looking for a strudier one - maybe out of metal...
When it comes to 1mm and thicker it is really a struggle - the blades tend to angle and all of a sudden you're cutting a spiral. Fastening all the adjustable screws really hard with a plier helps, but of course this makes adjustments harder.
not the perfect solution.
JeffyP wrote:Very cool project! Your scratch building is just beyond belief...
Thank you JeffyP!
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well, this week's progress was rather slow.
One of the things I still need to solve with the planned "cut-open" diorama is the landing gear.
It looks good on the closed side,
but on the open side....
I could just leave the skids....
But I guess in the end I will just not have the landing gear on the open side.
Any ideas or suggestions?
From the plan and layout the scene will look like this.
With the Eisenkerns in the lead and the Scions following.
You may recall I mentioned a quad that I'd like to add as a ammo carrier and maybe even support vehicle.
Maybe like the US MV700 and MV850 quads
So I looked through my stash to find suitable wheels.
In the end I decided to use 1:48 T-34 road wheels, pimped with milliput.
Not the best wheels, but they'll do the job (I hope).
To be honest, I'm somehow operating completely in the dark when it comes to this quad. I took me forever to just get the simplest of starts.
In the end I used a motorcycle tank and saddle from a WWII German Zündap
The build is very slow as I add and remove things time and again.
I think the basic rear is now OK
and it would fit into the THANATOS passenger bay.
It took me two evenings to get a half-way decent front.
I think I can live with that one...
Well, week 5 is almost over and compared to the previous weeks the build slowed considerably, but I hope once I'm past the basic quad design I can pick up pace again.
Any ideas or suggestions?
Cheers
Klaus
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I like the quad Klaus, but it looks a little big on the front end. The back doesn't matter too much since you said was going to be an ammo/gear carrier. Maybe add some cut down bolters to the front to give reason to the bulk?
I don't know.
Just my 2 cents.
Loving the work either way.
A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head. - Maxim 12 - The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries
Good job on the quad', Klaus. Works for me.
Good idea to start from motorbike parts, they are after all a bike with 4 wheels, the middle is basically the same for both.
For the landing gear, I'd be tempted to attach the rear of the two and cut-away the hull above it. So that it shows how the internal structure interacts with the depth required for the gear's mechanism. It'd be a lot more work than leaving them off though.
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2017/08/12 16:46:56
Subject: (Not) Santas Workshop of the Strange, Wierd, and Wonderful - 11 Aug -THANATOS 3 - pg 66!
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
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2017/08/16 13:43:46
Subject: (Not) Santas Workshop of the Strange, Wierd, and Wonderful - 16 Aug -THANATOS - pg 66!
Ha, yeah we've all done that: "yes, this new bit looks cool right there... oh, it doesn't fit any more"
Few of us then go on to build a larger (yet smaller) thing to replace it.
Nice work.
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2017/08/19 15:50:29
Subject: (Not) Santas Workshop of the Strange, Wierd, and Wonderful - 16 Aug -THANATOS - pg 66!
I mean, it's not like the gunner is going to be sitting in his position during transit, right? Or is this meant as an Assault vehicle, where the angry soldiers just come boiling out ready to flashlight things to death?
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2017/08/20 11:54:19
Subject: (Not) Santas Workshop of the Strange, Wierd, and Wonderful - 16 Aug -THANATOS - pg 66!
So, now a drop ship, with small vehicles to support the troops it lands to a battle zone, Impressive work as always Klaus!
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2017/08/21 03:39:39
Subject: (Not) Santas Workshop of the Strange, Wierd, and Wonderful - 16 Aug -THANATOS - pg 66!
Of course the AGL could've folded down like the gun on the aliens APC
All looking awesome though!
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Thanks mate - lets hope it's my opus magnus - not my opus medcorum...or such
Moltar wrote:That lil buggy is awesome, Klaus. Great job building it!
Thank you Moltar!
Dr H wrote:Ha, yeah we've all done that: "yes, this new bit looks cool right there... oh, it doesn't fit any more"
Few of us then go on to build a larger (yet smaller) thing to replace it.
Nice work.
Hehe - you know me.
Size is realtive and "It's bigger on the inside"
Anvildude wrote:I mean, it's not like the gunner is going to be sitting in his position during transit, right? Or is this meant as an Assault vehicle, where the angry soldiers just come boiling out ready to flashlight things to death?
Yeah, that sums it up nicely
shasolenzabi wrote:So, now a drop ship, with small vehicles to support the troops it lands to a battle zone, Impressive work as always Klaus!
Thank you shasolenzabi!
xXWeaponPrimeXx wrote:I like the new buggy
Of course the AGL could've folded down like the gun on the aliens APC
All looking awesome though!
Yeah, should've thought about that before - but hey, there is always a next time
evildrcheese wrote:Aw man that buggy looks totally awesome.
EDC
Thank you Mate!
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Hi all,
thank you for your feedback and suggestions!
I really appreciate you participating
So I finished the Dencara Tauros, by adding camouflage netting and all the other little details.
I am quite pleased with the result.
And it fits into the passenger bay.
hehe
Well, this ain't old-fashioned programming, this is rivet making.
While recovering from rivet making I started to figure out the actual scene.
Here you can see where I envision the light to spill....
Hmm, maybe a round base?
While tinkering with these ideas (and it was at night, so I couldn't use the saw) I continued with details.
Like creating the lights and sights for the turret.
The next day I cut half of the wooden plate rectangular and the other half to a circle - so I still have the option to select either.
Then I positioned the troopers
After the initial positioning I decided I need an officer leading - this is an interesting mix of Eisenkern Valkir and Imperial Scion parts - and honestly, I love how the guy turned out!
I also added a flame trooper - for the sheer effect of a flame thrower at night
And another heavy Eisenkern with a "big gun".
So, please take a look at the composition.
Is it too static, would you position differently?
What are your thoughts here?
Right now I'm going with the idea of the round base and started to cover it in instant plaster.
And positioned the ship on it (also to leave impression marks on the ground).
And this is where I am now.
Please let me know what you think.
I look forward to your feedback!
Cheers
Klaus
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Are you going for dry ground, or mud? Because it could be a really neat little terrain effect if you used some plaster and sculpted up some big 'squishes' where everything is landing. Could put footprints out to the troops, as well.
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2017/08/22 21:50:42
Subject: Re:(Not) Santas Workshop of the Strange, Wierd, and Wonderful - 22 Aug -THANATOS - pg 66!
Very much like how the buggy turned out Klaus- and am looking forward to seeing you one day do one with the AGL that folds over the back a' la Aliens.
Regarding the composition and positioning of the deploying troopers- that looks pretty realistic also. The gun dogs should be fanning out to either side of the ramp to establish a perimeter around the drop ship, with the officer and probably his RTO more or less centered on the ramp. With the buggy deploying down the ramp, he would naturally be off to the side.
Unless the drop ship is only one of many (whether we can see the other ships or not) in which case the officer would be leading his detachment to a rally point to form up as part of a larger force.
I love working with the Dream Forge Eisenkern figures- great pieces with a million variations you can build in.
Great work!
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2017/08/22 22:44:00
Subject: (Not) Santas Workshop of the Strange, Wierd, and Wonderful - 22 Aug -THANATOS - pg 66!
The Tauros is fantastic! Just built out of thin air? Did you just look at the Forge World pictures and recreate it?
I like the troop scene, perhaps make the troopers fan out, and have the commander coming out in a more dramatic fashion?
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2017/08/24 20:28:05
Subject: (Not) Santas Workshop of the Strange, Wierd, and Wonderful - 22 Aug -THANATOS - pg 66!
Positions look fine to me.
One thing you could add; with the removable side, maybe add one last soldier inside... ready to shut the ramp, or some other job... just to give a reason to open it up (beyond the interior details).
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2017/08/25 10:16:02
Subject: (Not) Santas Workshop of the Strange, Wierd, and Wonderful - 22 Aug -THANATOS - pg 66!
Good lord, I never know what to say to these posts. Beautiful detailing, great work. Every time I think you must be finished with something there are more layers. Thank you for posting inspirational things
2017/08/25 11:12:50
Subject: (Not) Santas Workshop of the Strange, Wierd, and Wonderful - 22 Aug -THANATOS - pg 66!
Littletower wrote:Build is as great as usual, and the squad looks great.
Also liking the round base, it makes for an interesting composition. Are you planning to add some other element on the rear, starboard side?
Might look a bit empty otherwise, but it is early to say...
Keep it up!
Thank you Littletower - yes I do agree and in the meantime I added a wreck on one side and some rubble on the other.
Anvildude wrote:Are you going for dry ground, or mud? Because it could be a really neat little terrain effect if you used some plaster and sculpted up some big 'squishes' where everything is landing. Could put footprints out to the troops, as well.
Great idea Anvildude!
Unfortunately Dencara is a rather dry planet. But your suggestion inspired me to try soemthing new.
Since they will be raiding the palace of a governor that has been driven into Chaos' hands, I now plan to add some (blood) puddles on the ground
Thanks for the inspiration!
Meer_Cat wrote:Very much like how the buggy turned out Klaus- and am looking forward to seeing you one day do one with the AGL that folds over the back a' la Aliens.
Regarding the composition and positioning of the deploying troopers- that looks pretty realistic also. The gun dogs should be fanning out to either side of the ramp to establish a perimeter around the drop ship, with the officer and probably his RTO more or less centered on the ramp. With the buggy deploying down the ramp, he would naturally be off to the side.
Unless the drop ship is only one of many (whether we can see the other ships or not) in which case the officer would be leading his detachment to a rally point to form up as part of a larger force.
I love working with the Dream Forge Eisenkern figures- great pieces with a million variations you can build in.
Great work!
Thank you Meer_Cat.
Yeah I'm still tinkering with the central element of the scene...
Maybe you recall whalemusic360's remark on the previous page:
really get an inquisitor stealth landing craft vibe from the whole thing. Not sure if you read the HH novels, but the one with the assassin team that sets out to kill Horus has a ship, and this is pretty much what was in my head.
and now I'm thinking of an "Executioner" with the above mentioned scenario of a governor driven into Chaos' hands....
dsteingass wrote:The Tauros is fantastic! Just built out of thin air? Did you just look at the Forge World pictures and recreate it?
I like the troop scene, perhaps make the troopers fan out, and have the commander coming out in a more dramatic fashion?
Well, I really looked at a lot of images of the FW Tauros and then "just" started to recreate it - with a bt of Dencara flavour
Dr H wrote:Great work.
Positions look fine to me.
One thing you could add; with the removable side, maybe add one last soldier inside... ready to shut the ramp, or some other job... just to give a reason to open it up (beyond the interior details).
Thank you Dr. H - yes I totally agree.
Marshall_Argos suggested on my blog to add a "crew chief" on the inside, that is communicating with the crew via headset. I really love that idea
Scarper wrote:Good lord, I never know what to say to these posts. Beautiful detailing, great work. Every time I think you must be finished with something there are more layers. Thank you for posting inspirational things
Thank YOU Scarper!
I'm always glad to see new commentators and it makes me very, very happy if I can inspire anyone here!
Thank you!
Red Harvest wrote:Love that cut-away. Wonderful idea. Perfect for display, and even play...
That compass cutter you have, the yellow and black tool in a few of your photos, where did you get it?I've been meaning to get a better one -- better than the one I currently have-- for a while now.
Thank you Red Harvest!
Currently I use this here:
https://smile.amazon.de/gp/product/B000BK7NWC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It is OK, but I'm still looking for a strudier one - maybe out of metal...
When it comes to 1mm and thicker it is really a struggle - the blades tend to angle and all of a sudden you're cutting a spiral. Fastening all the adjustable screws really hard with a plier helps, but of course this makes adjustments harder.
not the perfect solution.
Danke, Klaus. It appears sturdier than mine, but not by much. I think I'll need to make my own.
Just going to repeat what Cam said. Stunning work. The circular base works very well. The one thing that came to mind is the potential to add even more landing lights --aircraft are festooned with them-- and maybe a pair of large searchlights/spotlights to illuminate the LZ. Maybe they retract into the hull when not in use.
Positions look fine to me.
One thing you could add; with the removable side, maybe add one last soldier inside... ready to shut the ramp, or some other job... just to give a reason to open it up (beyond the interior details).
That would be the guy working the automatic weapon to give covering fire to the assault troops. I think it would be a nice addition. Perhaps the weapon is suspended from the ceiling?
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2017/08/29 10:18:31
Subject: Re:(Not) Santas Workshop of the Strange, Wierd, and Wonderful - 29 Aug -THANATOS - pg 66!
The actual setting of the scene also changed.
The story I choose is set on Dencara V, where the Governor of Port Singh, on the Terra Perpierit became corrupted by the Chaos and called out a revolution.
In the typical Dencaran style the response will be swift and thorough...
So the scene is now set in the courtyard of the Governors palace, where the assault force lands.
The corrupted occupants wasted no time and began converting the palace to Chaos...
On DakkaDakka Anvildude suggested to use some mud and water splashes for the scene.
Unfortunately Dencara is very dry and desert-like planet.
But hey! With a revolution ongoing, there will be blood. Lot's of blood. Puddles of blood
So I poured some water effects on the base where the blood will gather.
Unfortunately the plaster is very porous and so the water effects vanished over night.
I will re-pour them after the scene is primed
And this brings me to another new element of the scene.
I decided to leave the TAUROS off - he will get his own little scene together with the Quad - and instead add an "executioner" - thank you whalemusic360:
...really get an inquisitor stealth landing craft vibe from the whole thing. Not sure if you read the HH novels, but the one with the assassin team that sets out to kill Horus has a ship, and this is pretty much what was in my head...
These 3 are from the newest Raging Heroes range "Daugthers of the Crucible" amazing minis.
So here is now the assemble gathered on the stage
Dr H and Red Harvest on DakkaDakka suggested:
That would be the guy working the automatic weapon to give covering fire to the assault troops. I think it would be a nice addition. Perhaps the weapon is suspended from the ceiling?
And so I added these two troopers covering from the inside of the passenger bay.
No assault goes without causality and so one of the machine gunners bit the dust...
Wow , I haven't been on dakkadakka enough to comment on all the great projects lately, but the progress here is fantastic. I like the idea of the change of scenery to being an execution force coming for a corrupt governor. . The fact that the blood soaked into the ground is also a possible blessing in disguise as it could be the ground itself has become corrupted and thirsty for it.
The tauros vehicle is really cool. Perhaps a seperate but still attached story wise display base for it and the quad.
Rivets are going on great as well.
Keep up the great work not santa.
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2017/08/29 12:10:49
Subject: Re:(Not) Santas Workshop of the Strange, Wierd, and Wonderful - 29 Aug -THANATOS - pg 66!
Theophony wrote: Wow , I haven't been on dakkadakka enough to comment on all the great projects lately, but the progress here is fantastic. I like the idea of the change of scenery to being an execution force coming for a corrupt governor. . The fact that the blood soaked into the ground is also a possible blessing in disguise as it could be the ground itself has become corrupted and thirsty for it.
The tauros vehicle is really cool. Perhaps a seperate but still attached story wise display base for it and the quad.
Rivets are going on great as well.
Keep up the great work not santa.
Thank you Theophony !
Right now I have the idea of the two assault vehicles (Quad and Tauros) racing in front of a dust cloud into an (Ork?) camp, guns blazing
Yeah, I'm liking it. Especially the one on the ramp. Just get the feeling of the soldiers running about and the VIPs calmly strolling along.
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2017/09/05 11:09:43
Subject: (Not) Santas Workshop of the Strange, Wierd, and Wonderful - 5. Sept -THANATOS - pg 66!
whalemusic360 wrote:I like it. You get the feeling that the one coming down the ramp is a VIP, and has a very specific job to do.
Thanks!
It was your idea that planted this specific seed
Dr H wrote:Yeah, I'm liking it. Especially the one on the ramp. Just get the feeling of the soldiers running about and the VIPs calmly strolling along.
Yeah, she's calmy walking through the carnage, leaving a swath of death and destruction on her way. She has just one goal - eliminate her target, the corrupted governor...
We, thank you for your feedback and suggestions!
With the built completed I sculpted some muzzle effects for the scene.
I only did 4 in total - 2 for the Machine Guns, one for a rifle, and one for the Flamethrower
And with this, everything was ready for priming
Disassembled and awaiting the primer...
Back on my desk I re-poured the water effects for the blood.
I'm still not happy with it.
It seems to vanish again...
After 48 hours it was still sticky and I got tired of letting it cure.
The following images are only tests for the light setting.
First I added the light from the fires and muzzle flashes.
Me likes alot
After the light effects from the flames I tried to apply the light effects from the navigation and landing lights.
After these I still had to do the interior light for the passenger bay
Wow, this is just the color, but I think this looks great already!
But two lessons learned:
1. the landing gear lights are too blue - I need to find a better color or at least tone it down
2. The passenger bay looks good, but engineering is useless - may as well close it
So I took the removable side and cut it to cover the engineering section
This will look better.
The blood effects really suck!
Nevertheless, I now started to paint for real - all in toned down colors to fit the nightly scene.
I also painted a first trooper.
As you can see I tried to do a skeleton scheme...
And I completed the first paint phase for the Captain
I like him, and I hope he'll look better once done and in the light effects.
So
What do you think?
I look forward to your feedback and suggestions!
Cheers