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 Spazamataz wrote:
Seriously wtf is with the wraith knight hate???


Because it's lazy. If you're going to do a big oval base release - something that's clearly mandatory with GW now - then at least try for something original. Just making "The same but bigger" is a cop-out. It's not a bad model, but it is a lot of wasted potential.

   
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 Spazamataz wrote:
Oh my god he's still whining...... seriously you wouldn't last a day here in Oz

Because suuuure, you're so much harder than everyone else, paying double for GW products like you keep telling us over and over again. Slip another shrimp on the barbie and get over yourself, "mate".

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 Agamemnon2 wrote:
 Spazamataz wrote:
Oh my god he's still whining...... seriously you wouldn't last a day here in Oz

Because suuuure, you're so much harder than everyone else, paying double for GW products like you keep telling us over and over again. Slip another shrimp on the barbie and get over yourself, "mate".


I'm sorry, you're not hardcore enough until you've encountered your first dropbear attack. And you're only hardcore if you survive it. Oh and the monster spiders. I've seen one cave in the roof of a minivan. True story.

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 Morachi wrote:
 Agamemnon2 wrote:
 Spazamataz wrote:
Oh my god he's still whining...... seriously you wouldn't last a day here in Oz

Because suuuure, you're so much harder than everyone else, paying double for GW products like you keep telling us over and over again. Slip another shrimp on the barbie and get over yourself, "mate".


I'm sorry, you're not hardcore enough until you've encountered your first dropbear attack. And you're only hardcore if you survive it. Oh and the monster spiders. I've seen one cave in the roof of a minivan. True story.


Your giant spiders got nothing on our chavs, they arent scary but come on, we have to put up with them, cut us some slack here.


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We can drop the enthralling back on forth on who is or isn't moaning, who is harder than who and so on.

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New wraithguard in shooty and CC options.

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If someone makes the pacific rim team in wraith knight form, I will consider looking at one on ebay, I reckon that would look awesome.

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The trailer is out:



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It's not chunky enough to be a machine from Pacific Rim. It's too spindly and lanky.

   
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Apparently rumors of GW having trouble with their supply vs. demand on this Eldar release are true in spite of them having two months to work on the problem since the Tau fiasco. My local GW store has already been told by GW HQ to expect to have less new Eldar to sell on release day than they would like.

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Something is defineately up with GW, I fear it.

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Given how they seem to forget an army a month after release (since WD is filled with the next new shiny thing..) having major supply issues is worrying.

Even with the minimal hype GW creates (WD, website, teaser trailer) they probably want the majority of our spending in the first weeks after release.

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For some reason I feel the trailer is more about GW's financial side than Eldar itself

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Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
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Guys I think it is now time to assume some one has raided one of the factories that make the plastic and is holding it hostage till they get X million dollars, hence the price hikes.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Spazamataz wrote:
Seriously wtf is with the wraith knight hate???


Because it's lazy. If you're going to do a big oval base release - something that's clearly mandatory with GW now - then at least try for something original. Just making "The same but bigger" is a cop-out. It's not a bad model, but it is a lot of wasted potential.

...yeah tru... I'll pay that...
   
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Current Eldar jetbike chronology:

Original design 1988 (WD Oct. 1988, 25 years ago)


Current Plastic Version 1994 (at least first mentoned in that catalogue, 19 years ago):


Prototype of new Jetbike shown GD 2007 (6 years ago):



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Not sure if I'm gonna put much stock into the supply issues for Eldar rumour at the moment.
   
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megatrons2nd over at Warseer wrote:One of my local guys said that what he heard for the Iyanden book is it has rules for attacking a Craftworld.

Commissar Merces over at Warseer wrote:Just got off the phone with a friend who is somewhat in the know. He says that the supplement book is more like crusade of fire mixed with some of the fantasy background books than it is chapter approved. Said it was cool but not worth the price tag.

Said there is some confusion about the Wraithknight as it says walker in white dwarf but is said to not be a walker. But did say wraith guard are nerfed but aspect warriors got a shot in the arm.

Oh, and leaked release lists show Wind Riders listed among repackaged boxes, together with 3-packs of SM Bikes, SM Scout Bikes, Chaos Bikes and Necron Destroyers. Autarch on jetbike gets the finecast treatment (as an add-on to the bike kit).

Maybe GW is planning a Saim Hann supplement though, accompanied by the new jetbike.

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Let's hope for an Alaitoc supplement with a new Ranger Disruption table!

It stands to reason they'll release a supplement for each Craftworld, at these prices it'd be madness not to.

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I love the supplement stuff, always nice to find new fluff and stories but of course, its not worth that price tag.

I am sure they will do this more often now, wait, perhaps Black Templars will be a codex supplement to the Space Marine codex.

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megatrons2nd over at Warseer wrote:One of my local guys said that what he heard for the Iyanden book is it has rules for attacking a Craftworld.


Wait... didn't we get enough of that grox-crap from Path of the warrior?
I have so far never heard of any attack on a craftworld that's been presented as remotely reasonable -.-

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 Kroothawk wrote:
Maybe GW is planning a Saim Hann supplement though, accompanied by the new jetbike.


Makes sense. The current release are mostly Wraith-based (Wraithknight, Wraithguards, Wraithblades, Wraithfighter, Spiritseer), which matches the Wraith-heavy aspect Iyanden craftworld. They could do a release with new Shining Spears and Jetbikes together with a Saim-Hann supplement, and a host of new Aspect miniatures together with a Biel-Tan supplement.

   
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I find it amusing that they've had that prototype for 6 years, and somehow they just can't release it. I suspect they'd see this as a good reason not to reveal any work in progress ever again, since people have been waiting for those jetbikes for half a decade now. One wonders though, if someone could bribe a warehouse worker to go and drop the Jetbike mould. Hey, it worked for the plastic dwarf thane!

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Got a sneak peek of the White Dwarf today, managed to dig out some actual rules from the battle report, preview teasers and a couple of tiny pages from the codex that were printed in the WD that I managed to read. Not many stats on offer but still a reasonable chunk of rules. I'm probably mis-remembering the names of some of these rules but here is what I picked up in no particular order:

- From what I saw all the non Wraith infantry have the run/shoot shoot/run ability (the rule was called Battle something). Avengers definitely do (from the report) and Rangers definitely do (from tiny printed profile in the WD) as well. Not sure if its just for Shuriken weapons (Rangers do have Pistols I guess).
- It looks likes all Eldar have the 'Ancient Foe' special rule, no idea what this does but I suspect its something like Hatred Daemons of Slaneesh (don't think it was Necron related as the report was against Crons) since all Eldar appear to have it (including the Wraith units).
- There are 14 Eldar specific psychic powers from 2 different charts, Runes of Battle and Runes of Fate. However it looks like several of the powers are 2 in 1, i.e they have a buff mode and a debuff mode, so there are actually HEAPS of powers. I.e the Primaris for Battle is Conceal/Reveal (as a single card/roll etc), Conceal gives you Shrouded and Reveal removes Shrouded from an enemy. The 1 on the Battle Chart was Destructor/Renew(?), Destructor being the same as before with Soul Blaze added and Renew allowing you to restore a wound to a friendy model within range (18" I think). Primaris for Runes of Fate was Guide, which is now 24" range but is otherwise the exact same as before. Very surprising to see this as aside from the range it is far worse than the Divination Primaris (although I guess you could take both and effectively Guide two units). The 1 on the Fate Chart was a terrible Focuses Witchfire power. Fortune and Doom are still options (the Farseer in the report had them) and appear to have the same effects.
- The Avatar has Fleet. Also one of the psychic powers increases your movement speed/charge range somehow
- The Wraithknight is insanely huge, it is literally twice the height of a Wraithlord, and the sword option it can take is basically the size of a Wraithlord as well. It can take up to 2 Suncannons, which are S6 AP2 Heavy 3 Small Blast or up to 2 Wraithlances(?) which are presumably the heavy anti tank option. Sword replaces one of the big guns I think (they are arm mounted like the Titans). This is in addition to the two shoulder mounted heavy weapons (I saw Scatters and Starcannons, so presumably the normal range of heavy weapons are available)
- Wraithguard and Wraithblades look good, think scaled down Wraithlords. They looked a bit bigger than the old ones, but I think it was partly just the added range of motion in the poses on 40mm bases (similar to the old 25mm base Terminators vs the newer 40mm base ones, they are bigger but the better poses help as well). Wraithguard can now get either Wraithcannons (which from the fluff descriptions seemed to still be single shot and very powerful) or D Scythes which were described as a multi shot weapon but it could still Pen vehicles on a 6. Wraithblades are only 1A base (sadly) but looked like they could go either 2 CCW (no idea on stats of their weapons, but they appeared to have sword/axe options) or 1 CCW + Shield gen arm.
- Wraithguard are definitely S5 T6, Lord is almost certainly not T6 (a full unit of Destroyers shot one in the report and did nothing, which suggests T8 or some other equivalent buff). No idea on the stats for the Knight.
- It looks like Aspect Warriors have the same base profile, include Exarches with Ld9
- Reapers have Slow and Purposeful
- Rangers have WS4. They also have a character (not sure if he is upgrade or HQ) who has a 120" range Sniper Rifle.
- One of the fliers has 2 Heavy D Scythes on the wings and a psychic based main gun. The other has 2 Bright Lances and a Pulse Laser.
- Saw stats for what looked like special weapons for characters, might have been for Special Characters as well since the 120" range sniper was in there. One weapon was +2S, AP- Melee, Rending, Fleshbane, Instant Death. Another was +1S AP3, Soul Blaze, and if you killed anything with Soul Blaze then every unit within 6" of that unit would become effected by Soul Blaze as well. There was also a one use only piece of wargear, which you could use when the character died. On a 2+ you place a S4 AP3 template over the character, hitting both friend and foe, but if you cause at least 1 wound then the character stands back up with 1 wound. Last one I saw was an item which gave the user Fearless, Shrouded, Stealth and re-roll cover saves but they lose the IC rule, which gives people a way to make a Solitare (the name was something to do with the Laughing God).
   
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Just been converting the new prices from US dollars to British pounds, and I'm shaking my head so much that it's in danger of rolling off my neck!

£22 for 5 Dire Avengers! Cor Blimey. The old box gave you ten for the same price.

To put that in perspective, I can buy a late war Germany infantry company from Plastic Soldier Company or Warlord Games, for £16, which still leaves me some change for paints or brushes. You could get 5 tiger tanks for the same price. Ok, so FOW uses smaller models, but come on GW, a joke's a joke.

Even better, for the price of 5 dire avengers, I could buy a 2 litre bottle of vodka and a fish supper. Sounds like a good lunch too me

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 Shandara wrote:
Let's hope for an Alaitoc supplement with a new Ranger Disruption table!

It stands to reason they'll release a supplement for each Craftworld, at these prices it'd be madness not to.


Either they get one shot at this before the customers get that its jus as "pointless but nice, far to expencive" as the crusade of fire book.
Or they (GW) actually ad some interresting rules and open up for an exelent profit of books for chaos legions craftworlds, hive fleets etc.
I would not count on the second alternative though.
It would e funny though, if Eldrad was only availale for Ulthwe/main codex.

Strange they dont release a new Yriel to go with the Iyanden book. I bet his Eyepiece and spear is a horror to behold in finecast.
   
 
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