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I was at an Edmonton Tournament recently and a nice gentleman brought an Armored Company list. I objected but was told that the ban on AC was only in U.S. tournaments is this true?

As always, only the tournament organizers can tell you which lists are legal and which are not. Just because the Armored Company may not be allowed in some tournaments does not mean it's not allowed in all tournaments.

I'd object even if it was legal in the US. AC has never been any fun to play against. I think it has a lot to do with if you lose first turn you have to weather 9 pie plates and if you have any models left, well... yeah.

Last time I played against AC, I got to witness 100% of my unmounted infantry dieing on turn one. Doesn't that bring a tear to your eye?

I thought the Ban on AC was on all GW GT tournies (globally) I know specifically it was allowing in the Ard Boyz tourny. I thought that was just brilliant, Ban the army, but let it get played in GW's biggest tournament ever (what sillyness was that for) I'm also not aware that anyone that actually used the army.

Sazzer if you know your going to play against AC spread your army out a bit. A well spread line of troops and you can only target 3 troops per plate.

Necrons own AC with auto glance on all weapons. 
Mech eldar has few problems against AC as they have the mobility to get rear and side armor.
Drop pod marines and drop troop IG with meltas destroy AC.
A decent SAFH list can take it out as well.
Lastly the sniper fex's in Nidzilla also have a field day against AC.


I do agree that AC tends to be all or nothing, if your list does not have high amounts of anti armor you lose hard.

Posted By Sazzlefrats on 11/09/2007 10:46 AM
I'd object even if it was legal in the US. AC has never been any fun to play against. I think it has a lot to do with if you lose first turn you have to weather 9 pie plates and if you have any models left, well... yeah.

I have to stick up for my beloved AC here . . . while it is unfortunate that your opponents are unable to come up with anything more creative than a pie plate spam list, the list can take an many other forms.

For those of us who enjoy playing mechanized combined arms lists with a heavier tank focus (i.e.: some tanks, some stormtroopers and Armored Fist squads, some sentinels, a hellhound, etc.) than is permissible through the vanilla IG codex, the AC list is great. It is also quite nice to be able to use some of my FW vehicles through the AC list. The last time I used my 2,000 pt. list in an RT event a few months ago I ended up with perfect army composition scoring from my opponents-so yes lists that are enjoyable for the player and the opponent can certainly be made.

I was just checking the Canadian Hall of Heroes site, and it does not list Armoured Company as a legal army list. Of course, the tournament you were playing in may not have been a sanctioned Hall of Heroes event, or if it was, perhaps the organizers had announced changes somewhere (in store, online...etc.) Good gaming!

Zoned

I've never had a problem against AC with my standard all-infantry sentinel IG list. As already pointed out, deployment is important. Spread out to max and a pie plate that rolls a direct hit is only going to get one guy and two partials in the targetted squad. He might pick up partials in surrounding squads, another one or two guys. Played a guy at a tourney that got extremely frustrated watching his tanks kill 2 or 3 IG per turn (didn't take sponsons.....) while losing 1 or 2 tanks every turn. Very one-sided game, and not to the good for the AC.

Russell wrote:
Sazzer if you know your going to play against AC spread your army out a bit. A well spread line of troops and you can only target 3 troops per plate.

Necrons own AC with auto glance on all weapons. 
Mech eldar has few problems against AC as they have the mobility to get rear and side armor.
Drop pod marines and drop troop IG with meltas destroy AC.
A decent SAFH list can take it out as well.
Lastly the sniper fex's in Nidzilla also have a field day against AC.


I do agree that AC tends to be all or nothing, if your list does not have high amounts of anti armor you lose hard.

The first tourny I faced AC the scenario was entirely unfair (start with 2 troops) , he had 2 bassies and I brought on 2 guardian squads, L shape deployments with no cover except in the far corner of the L's. I did my best, but comming in peice meal with no terrain (thanks Dundracon for no terrain!) and facing 6 bassies and 3 russes 2 hellhounds and 2 chimeras, Eldar just doesn't have the umpgh to do a gun line fight against that kind of army. There was no opportunity to sneak around, take side shots or anything, it was the lamest game I ever played.


The second tourny I faced AC it was a more fair list, 7 russes (2 were exterminators), 4 lascannon sentinels, 2 hellhounds, 2 or 3 chimeras with strom troopers (OMFG infantry?!) so it was much more fair, I mean at least he had infantry. This was at Kublacon, we had 3 big peices of terrain, and a couple of 1" tall hills that were kinda useless. It was better than Dundracon terrain wise, and the scenario was reasonable, a recon variant. I again lost first turn, and all of my infantry was killed (30+ guardians gone) I was like damn! But at the same time he moved forward a little, and I had infantry also in my 5 vehicles. I popped out and hit him with a lot of singing spears (I had actually feared AC enough to tool against it a little, even though I figured out of 64 players maybe only 1 or 2 people would play it. And lucky me, I got got to face it!) Anyhow on my turn 1, I killed, as in totally destroyed 4 russes, I got super lucky and nailed him hard. On turn 2 he stunned all my vehicles so for the rest of the game I wasn't really killing much, but both of our turn 1's were brutal. I still was feeling the battle scars from Dundracon, and probably forever thats my view on AC. Then again now I suppose one could feild 3 falcons with holofields and its just as "unfun" I've played against that too, yuck. But anyways I had a resounding victory on the AC army at kublacon. I believe that was game 4 of 5, both of us had spotless records at the time.