Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

This was born out of one of the discussions I have with my best gaming buddy about his maligned GK's. We're always looking at ways to make the army work, since he's in the same position I was in with my Orks before the new dex. Loves the army, hates the limitations in the rules.

The idea is that the Demon Hunters codex represents the GK's as a force of the =][= but they have a chapter that they are derived from, with all the usual SM based trimmings. This opens up a few unique modeling possibilities. The idea here is to use the SM Codex with Traits to help fill out the list with options. The rules are being tailored around giving the GK army options, not so much about having it fit the fluff of a "GK Chapter with SM stuff". This is why we're using the "Be Swift as the Wind" trait instead of the "Trust your Battle Brothers" trait, because we want to have bikes in the list, but won't be able to fit the stuff we want around it.

Anyway here's the list:

Traits
Be Swift as the Wind
Minor Drawback: Die Standing

HQ
Chaplain, Reclusiarch - 117 Points
Bike, Bolt Pistol, Frags

Grey Knight Grand Master - 145 Points
4 Grey Knight Terminator Retinue - 184 Points

Elites
4 Grey Knight Terminators - 224 Points
1 Psycannon

Troops
5 Space Marine Bikes - 220 Points
Frags, Sarge w/ Power Fist & Teleport Homer, 2 Meltaguns

5 Space Marine Bikes - 220 Points
Frags, Sarge w/ Power Fist & Teleport Homer, 2 Meltaguns

Fast Attack
8 Grey Knights - 250 Points
1 Psycannon

Heavy Support
Predator Annihilator - 135 Points
Sponson Heavy Bolters, Extra Armor

Land Raider - 253 Points
Smoke Launchers

1748 Points Total

We were figuring that the bikes could be really nice conversions for GK's, using either lances from Fantasy or GK Halbred arms, just counting as their standard CCW's, but looking really nice. The list can get around their anti-tank problems pretty well, but not overly so, and it's a highly maneuverable army. Everything would be painted in GK Colors, including the tanks, and it should look pretty nice I think.

What do you guys take on the list? I figure it's not overly competitive, but still a sold list and stronger than just Pure GK's.

I see what your problem is, you need to fill your mandatory Troop selections. So fluff-wise your Grey Knights and Terminators (and even the raider, really) are your "Troop" w/ the Bikes and Pred as your Support.

While confused at first, I like.

And you need some Attack Bikes and Teleport Homers in those bike squads .

The other option is Blood Angels with their Jump Pack marines as Troop. I think they only need 2x 5 man squads as mandatory selections. Mephisto's rules make a heck of a Grey Knight librarian, esp w/ Terminator armour.

In fact the more I think about it the more I'm going to want to buy stuff. Grr.

I'm no expert on SM so I can't really comment. However, I love your idea. You might use ravenwing models for your bikes.

Yeah, the Bikes have teleport homers, check the points.

I edited the list to put it in there.

Believe it or not I simultaneously built the list using the DA's rules to try and squeeze that together, but it just wasn't happening. You can't fit it because the DA stuff is just too expensive so the nerfed Marines get no love!

Voodoo Boyz wrote:Yeah, the Bikes have teleport homers, check the points.

nice.

Use the White Scars lances for those bikers. They look hot and are designed for bikers doing exactly what you're doing.