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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 17:00:11
Subject: Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The title tells it all. What was the model that made you go into fits of fury trying to assemble just to then crumble when finished?
Mine was the 3rd edition Lord of Change
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Comparing tournament records is another form of e-peen measuring.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 17:23:08
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I have a Lord of Change sitting on my desk, still about 75% painted and 90% assembled. For over a year now. It's that last little bit that is getting to me.
Just off the top of my head, I would say the OK gnoblar Scraplauncha was the most irritating. All the pieces were small and thin, as befits a rickety, greenskin-built contraption. And all the pieces had to be drilled and pinned, because there just wasn't enough of a joint to hold with glue alone. Once it was assembled, it rapidly assumed a state of wobbly loose ricketyness that makes me afraid to look at it, in case the pressure of my regard causes bits to drop off. I must admit, however, that even though it seems really fragile, none of the bits have come off, no matter how wiggly they seem to be.
And I vote for the scraplauncha having built both the 40K Throne of Judgement, and that sisters of battle organ/missle-launcher/rhino thing, both of which had serious issues of parts fit and weight.
The model I approached with the greatest trepidation was the Forgeworld Keeper of Secrets, but that turned out to be a joy and a delight to assemble.
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He's got a mind like a steel trap. By which I mean it can only hold one idea at a time;
it latches on to the first idea to come along, good or bad; and it takes strenuous effort with a crowbar to make it let go.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 17:44:48
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Penitent Engine.
I can't count how many times I screamed and threw that thing against the wall.
Eventually it just glued itself to my breakfast bar and I gave up.
I also seem to have a problem with Vespid. No idea why.
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Iorek on Zombie Dong wrote:I know you'll all keep thinking about it. Admit it. Some of you may even make it your avatar
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 20232023/12/13 17:56:22
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Dakka Veteran
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Those Freaking Thousand Sons!!! That crappy mix of plastic and metal body halves. Grrrr..... Then the stinking arms..... Then to top it off the stinking Sorcerer's bolt gun. I would glue it on and hide it from plain site, because it seemed that if someone would look at it, the stinking arm would fall off.
Yes, that is a recent thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 18:02:10
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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worst-build 40k = Landspeeder
worst-build WFB = Steam Tank
Both models suffer from ridiculous amounts of warping that defies clean assembly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 18:07:56
Subject: Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Fixture of Dakka
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The Penitent Engines are really a bear. The arms are not too terrible once you pin them, but the legs... OH the legs! I don't know who decided to have the legs sit on an axle that allows them to freely spin, but no part of that idea strikes me as "good."
Exorcists are also a pain. I just don't want to put together my 3rd one.
The landspeeders made me really frustrated too, though I did eventually get them rubberbanded and greenstuffed with some success.
I had a great deal of trouble with the Tau Firewarriors too. For some reason getting their arms and guns to work together gave me fits. I don't know if there is only a very small range of angles that will allow both right and left arms to be flat against the torso or what, but man... sliced the hell out of a lot of those.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 18:20:34
Subject: Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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Wehrkind wrote:I had a great deal of trouble with the Tau Firewarriors too. For some reason getting their arms and guns to work together gave me fits. I don't know if there is only a very small range of angles that will allow both right and left arms to be flat against the torso or what, but man... sliced the hell out of a lot of those.
Ahah!
I posted about not being able to line up fire warrior arms, and the general consensus from Dakka was I'm an idiot
I ended up just sticking the non-gun arm to the torso by a little bit of the joint, leaving an enormous gap because I don't really care much about my little Tau army. Speaking of them, Vespid weren't really hard to build as exhausting to clean all the mold lines from - soooo much filing
And thinking about it, most models are more irritating to clean than build. Land speeders suck, and my chaos raider got way screwed because the interior "engine" panel didn't slot all the way down, which messed with all of one side so it didn't sit flat. I couldn't fix without destroying the tank, so I just mashed it down and slapped GS down to mesh the gap with gribbly - Demonic Possession FTW!
- Salvage
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 18:45:37
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The old Vindicare Assassin model. I had just started actually building models, and for the life of my I could not get his stupid rifle to stay in the air, let along in the ball socket.
Also, the Land Raider Crusader. I was assembling the hurricane bolter sponsons with just glue, and well that didn't work too well. So it has sat for a least a year before I actually get to it. Try again, only to glue most of it to my hand. Decided after that to pin it and use GS. I build the right sponson, and it went decently well. *Only stabbing my hand/fingers with the knife/drill bit a few times* I then went on to the other sponson, thinking I would finish it all up and actually sort of impress a friend; because I hadn't touch the thing in a year. Well I end up making two frickin' right sided sponsons..... So after my several hours of work, I gave up and it's been sitting for at least 6 months.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 18:50:18
Subject: Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Fixture of Dakka
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What really made me nuts with the Firewarriors is that I decided to be clever and line up what parts I wanted where, and paint everything seperately so I could get all the areas easier. Of course AFTER I had paint all over it I realized it didn't fit all that well, and I needed to cut or use GS. Very sad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 19:11:38
Subject: Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The Leviathan and Bloat Thrall for my Cryx. Rather, anything with ball and socket jointed spider legs and large torsos......
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 19:16:17
Subject: Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Boss_Salvage wrote:And thinking about it, most models are more irritating to clean than build. Land speeders suck, and my chaos raider got way screwed because the interior "engine" panel didn't slot all the way down, which messed with all of one side so it didn't sit flat. I couldn't fix without destroying the tank, so I just mashed it down and slapped GS down to mesh the gap with gribbly - Demonic Possession FTW!
- Salvage
I totally forgot about the Land Raider Engine panel being 1/32" too wide, causing a gap on the top of the tank.
Of course, I filed the panel on my first Land Raider so it built up square.
After that, I simply built Land Raiders "buttoned-up", leaving me with a nice dress-up element for terrain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 19:21:44
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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I built a Steam Tank, mounted a FW Vanquisher Cannon in the hull, and stuck it on a flying base. The model itself was a pain throughout, and even after a couple of different attempts I can't seem to construct a flying base in a way that really stabalizes the model.
I would also vote for any plastic kits when you try and do masses of them at the same time. So much glue everywhere . . . not good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 21:12:33
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The Necron Tomb Spyder is the model that has given me the most grief. The legs just dont stay on and are so badly cast with mouldlines running up the middle that it took forever to clean, pin and build it. The arm ball joints are far from good too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 21:21:01
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Ack.
Tomb spiders.
I remember hating them.
My biggets PITA model was the Venerable Dread.
Oh, Great gaming Gods, that thing was horrible. One piece was bent, they were cast in such a manner as to NOT line up correctly, and the presence of all the extra details made sanding and filing near-impossible.
I actually ended up using large quantities of greenstuff on the sides and made a flat layer of GS on the top of their shoulders because the front & back halves of the torse both had a kind of upward bend to them that simple filing wouldn't remove without making it look atrocious.
Eric
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 21:30:48
Subject: Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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The Land Raider Crusader's sponsons are horrible - no doubt about it. Hopefully it'll get a plastic sprue when 5th ed. and the new Space Marines are out later this year.
The Landspeeder suffers warping - but if you know what you're doing you can work around it with lots of rubber bands (same for Grav Tanks).
Skaven win out for the worst though. They have long snouts and long tails which means that you need to rank them up as you're assembling them, or they'll never, ever, fit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 21:47:24
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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God...skaven, so frustrating.
Personally I had the most trouble with the first regiment box release of Chaos Warriors and Chaos Knights. The warriors weren't so bad as long as you didn't try too hard to vary the poses. But the Knights...good god. The metals legs refused to fit all the way over the assembled horse without judicious bending, and even after that the knight itself was still significantly wider than his base once the arms were added. Ranking up was nigh impossible without alot of planning.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 22:13:46
Subject: Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Dominating Dominatrix
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hmm.....I remember spending HOURS on the pistol arm of Dok Grotsnik....don't ask.
and there are of course boradside battle suits. by gork, how I hated them.
with PP my worst experince would be the thunderhead and epic caine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/13 22:20:57
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Wicked Warp Spider
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40K: I agree about the LR Engine bit being too large and causing gaps. What a PITA! You can still unfortunatley see it in my Looted Land Raider. Even though I love that vehicle, those gaps are just horrific.
Necromunda: Van Saar Heavy w/ Hvy Stubber. Awesome model, put it together, primed it, then lined it up next to all the other Saars....it's shorter than a juve!. $*#&%(*$&!
INQ: Both Death Cultist models. Who was the brainiac who decided to cast the smallest, skinniest INQ models in like 25 separate pieces!?
AlexCage wrote:Penitent Engine....
Eventually it just glued itself to my breakfast bar and I gave up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/14 00:37:25
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Been Around the Block
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I dont post often but this subject is close to my heart,i do alot of commision painting for other people so i dont alwayset to choose what models i am painting or building.
Ok here are some of the biggest pains in the modeling ass
landspeeder
land raider crusader
forge world super heavy tanks ( to be expected i guess)
And the biggest pains in my ass in the past are .....
mk1 wraithlord and war walker
i personally thanked jes goodwin for finally redesigning them last year.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/14 00:56:25
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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kitsandbits wrote:And the biggest pains in my ass in the past are .....
mk1 wraithlord and war walker
i personally thanked jes goodwin for finally redesigning them last year.
By Mk.1, are you talking about the RT-era versions, or the 40k2-40k3 versions?
I've personally got a half-dozen of the 40k2 Eldar Dreadnoughts pinned up, along with a couple of the 40k2 War Walkers. No problems with either of them, as long as you pin them!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/14 03:12:53
Subject: Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Tunneling Trygon
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I had to do an ungodly amount of surgury and fighting with the Exorcist kit. I still have one more to paint, and I'm not excited about the assembly.
I found the older metal SM Devastators to be totally horrible. Not only are they a pain to build the first time, but then they're a pain to rebuild each of the four thousand times they fall over during play, and explode in their constituent atoms.
I never have trouble with the all plastic kits. Years of scale military models have given me total mastery over styrene.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/14 04:06:42
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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PITA- Venerable Dreadnought. For a $95 AU kit, I was really surprised that I have not killed anybody for being robbed.
Fantastic detail, and amazing little 'bitz' that you only see once you start painting. Pity the bl*&dy thing doesn't match up.
Land Speeders...depressing.
Lemun Russ- I should try to commision HBMC to build them for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/14 14:35:14
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Regular Dakkanaut
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the OK scrap launcha is just stupid when it comes to assymbly.
The hurricane bolter assymbly could the most aweful as its the same horrible assymbly multiple times.
My new pain is the IMMORTALS... the end of the gun is like they through a dart and just guessed as to its size and shape. It simply fits like crap. God help you if you try to paint the put in the glow sticks... I made that mistake and had to break all the guns, file the rods and reglue. "ARGH.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/14 15:33:03
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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I must be alone, but the worst model for me by far is the Dark Eldar Taros. I had parts following off, the pieces never aligned properly, and I honestly couldn't make out the victim even after priming. It tends to be front heavy as well so don't bother putting it on a flying base. To top it off, the only thing it did on the board was attract fire.
Honestly, whoever did that model should be forced to put one together every week for the rest of their life.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/14 16:50:44
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Nervous Accuser
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Third edition metal Tyranid Raveners. They were spikey, you had to pin everything, and they just hurt your hands while you held them.
The person that designed it should be forced to do the dance of 1000 d4's, barefoot...
Necron Immortals are a close second.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/14 16:53:15
Subject: Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
Where ever I am...
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Id have to agree with some of the other posts, but the Land Raider Crusader kicked my ass when I first tried to build it. Putting plastic on metal with those big of pieces can be a bitch if you dont have the right materials.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/14 16:59:30
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Dakka Veteran
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The Hurricane Bolter Assembly on the LRC really got me. Even with the Accelerant (I would not have been able to build it with out this) it felt like playing Operation trying to get those little ammunition belts glued in the right places.
The Land Speeder wasn't a hard model to put together, but the top doesn't seem to fit to the bottom. I ended up having ot fill in cracks (again accelerant is a god send).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/14 17:10:46
Subject: Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Fixture of Dakka
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100 Eldar Guardians.
Did it once over a weekend.
I think I was technically insane by Sunday night, but thankfully it cleared up by Monday morning.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/14 18:40:10
Subject: Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Dakka Veteran
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Stelek wrote:I think I was technically insane by Sunday night, but thankfully it cleared up by Monday morning.
At least, that's what the voices in your head tell you.
I was just thinking Eldar Guardians, too.
And Necron Wraiths... too much weight on the one litte spinal attachment.
And the OK Rhinox Scrap-Launcher... dear gods.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/15 18:21:10
Subject: Re:Biggest PINA (Pain in the Azz) Model to build
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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I am having most problems with my Harbinger of Menoth, I cant even see exactly how it fits together. I will need to get the vhainbeearers rightr in repation to each other and the harbinger herself. I am going to take this one slow.
However on doing an internet search on the model I found that I will also need to replace her flagpole, as it will bend very easily.
The GW kits that caused the most difficulties were the chaos battleships, which were lobsisded (I needed to redrill them) and badly fitting. The worst fitting model was old school Rhino, compounded by making it into a Vindicator. This didn't fit together at all, but nevertheless it was easy to fix because of all the large flat rhino pieces. I used it as an excuse to heavily convert the model.
I hear the goblin hewer is a bit fiddly to put together.
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