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Here is a list I've been mulling over and figured I'd put it up for C&C to figure out if I actually want to try making it work. I'm aiming for a balanced, competitive list. The boyz entry is left undedicated toward sluggas or shootas because I haven't decided which I prefer yet. Anyway, here's what I got:

Warboss (135)
--Bike
--Powerklaw
--Cybork

Elites

15 Lootas 225

15 Kommandoz (235)
--Snikrot

Troops

4 Meganobz (210)
--2 Kombi-skorchas
--Trukk
--Red Paint

12 ‘Ard Boyz (200)
--Nob
--Powerklaw
--Bosspole
--Trukk
--Red Paint

20 Boyz (175)
--Nob
--Powerklaw
--2 Rokkits

20 Boyz (175)
--Nob
--Powerklaw
--2 Rokkits

20 Boyz (175)
--Nob
--Powerklaw
--2 Rokkits

Fast Attack

16 Stormboyz (232)
--Nob
--Powerklaw
--Bosspole

This leaves me with 88 pts left to buy either a KFF Mek or Warphead. The basic plan is the Trukk mounted units along with Stormboyz will be 32 bodies that will move up the flank and be engaged by turn two. The other stuff will advance to support the forward elements. I figured that MANz can't hold their own alone, but if they engage the same squad as the 'Ard Bozy they will be more effective.

32 Orks isn't enough.

Meganobz are 'bad' in so many ways.

If you are going to play 1 Stormboyz, you should use the special character.

Ard Boyz are generally not worth it unless you are bringing warpheads and a squad of 30--but if you buy them cybork bodies instead...just a idea.

Lacking anti-tank in a big way.

Are you open to radical changes?

first let's look at your boyz... with a unit of 20, your opponent has to kill 11 boyz to force a test and possibly send the unit fleeing...
for 3 units, that's 33 kills to get rid of 60 boyz

2 units of 30, each require 21 kills before they test... that's 42 kills before they can send off the same 60 boyz

plus your points cost is 25 less (a unit of 30 boys with 3 rokkit, nob, klaw and bosspole is 250 each)

I'm on the fence on the ard boyz... I would take 2 units of stormboyz, then ditch the truk and get the numbers up to over 20..
a lot of people diss the boyz, but I kind of like the idea of 2 huge units of slugga boyz with rokkits and pk nob followed by a big unit of ard boyz with shootas and rokkits... I don't like only 12 boyz, because it only takes a few kills to get your leadership down to where you can easily fail it.... and more than likely, your truk WILL be destroyed and you'll take casualties from that....


I personally feel that kommandos get killed so fast they're a waste of points, and the meganobz will have to test when the truk is destroyed, and they are so overpriced

I highly recommend another unit of lootas, max out your stormboyz and consider another stormboyz unit to add some more fast attack
the lootas have proven to be reliable skimmer/light tank killers, but one unit is easy enough to wipe out... 2 units gives your opponenent that funny feeling in the pit of their stomach javascript:emoticon('\');


a looted wagon would add some more firepower, and draw some fire away from the lootas


so if you were to drop the truk and take 20 ard boyz with shootas and 2 rokkits, that's only 20 points more

take 2 units of 30 boyz instead of 3 units of 20 you save 25 points

drop the kommandos and mega nobz, add another lootas, max out your storm boyz and either add another small
stormboyz unit and a looted wagon or max out another stormboy unit.... you should have lots of firepower and a
WAAGGGHHHH that will take a lot more kills before it takes a test

go boyz!

I've found that the kommandoz don't die as fast if they are used with Snikrot, which my squad does, because they aren't left out in the open and can choose their engagements on their own terms. Really good for assisting stormboyz. Plus I am a blood axe at heart.

Here is the revised list:

HQ

Warboss (135)
--Bike
--Powerklaw
--Cybork

Big Mek (85)
--KFF

Elites

15 Lootas 225

15 Lootas 225

14 Kommandoz (225)
--Snikrot

Troops

30 Boyz (245)
--Nob
--Powerklaw
--3 Rokkits

30 Boyz (245)
--Nob
--Powerklaw
--3 Rokkits

Fast Attack

16 Stormboyz (232)
--Nob
--Powerklaw
--Bosspole

16 Stormboyz (232)
--Nob
--Powerklaw
--Bosspole

1849pt total

Your second list looks really nice.

Looks like an excellent list!

for a more true to blood axe list, you might consider dropping one unit of lootas for another 30 boyz(minus nob and PK)
you could make them shootas... and would be adding 3 more rokkits


my only concern is there is only 6 S8 rokkits in the army... heavy tanks will pose a problem...


let me know how this list works...

I'll have to give snikrot's kommandoes some thought.... : )