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ok, so if a unit who is stubborn gets beat in hand to hand combat by a fear causing unit that causes fear and outnumbers them, then to they need double ones to stay, or do they still get their unmodified Ld for the break test? this came up in my last game, and we couldn't find a rule for that situation. we decided to give the stubborn unit the unmodified Ld, but we weren't sure if that was right. what do you guys think, and is there a FAQ about it?

I say they need double 1's or they autobreak, stubborn says nothing about negating psychology and fear doesn't actually modify the unit's leadership for break tests.

- Salvage

Correct. They need snake eyes.

Also remember that Items and Special Abilities that will your opponent has that reduce your leadership will effect your stubborn roll. The only thing that does not effect the LD of a stubborn unit is Combat Res.

So no skull mantle, VC power thing, etc dropping Ld?

Good to know.

- Salvage

Yup fear and terror are the bane of stubborn units!