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Does anyone know an abandonedwarez site that has the origional dos game 'mechwarrior', 1989ish version. I have a file of it, but it blacks out as soon as you finish a mission. I don't know if its just a bad file or if it's a dosbox quirk.

In other thoughts (god I love this game I could go on for hours about oldtech) Jenners than remove the SRM4 and ammo can actually jump, fire, and have a ton more armor on the legs. I never liked the Jenner until I got random assignment of that variant and all of a sudden its hoppity hoppity shooty shooty and it kicked some butt. Kurita had that 35 ton chassis owned with Jenner and Panther (which also has a variant that gets rid of the SRMs becoming far more efficient)

I think most variants of oldtech mechs that remove machineguns or SRMs in favor of heat management or extra armor are the best ones in the era. MGs are just inefficient for mech-to-mech and risk ammo, SRMs risk ammo and you could do the same or better with the same heat build just sticking a ML in there, and avoid ammo risk.

But yeah, anyone with a linky to the old super old mechwarrior I would love it.

Anpu42 wrote:Once [also back in early 1st] we had been playing for an hour when some one showed up late.
He came with his new 100 ton Custom Quad called the Mammoth.
It waddles on to the board his 5 hexes
An Vulcan form 22 hexes away pops him with his AC/2 and pulls off the Instant Kill CT shot.

Well, what do you know? A genuine use for the Vulcan. Who knew?

Vulcans can be very useful, in its designed roll.
Anti-Infantry and Long Range Fire Suport.
Put it with a Recon Lance with 3 other Mechs the same Speed or Faster [Vulcan and 3 Loucust] and stand off at 14-20 hexes and pop od the AC/2 every turn.
If somthing starts to get close before you are ready torch some trees and hide.
When it get with in 4 heaxes of you, jumb behied it ad feed it everything, Including the AC/2, give it a swift kick and jump away.
This works works for the Assassin loaded up with Infernos.

Yeah two points a round makes it REALLY viable as long range fire support dunnit? Face it the mech sucks. No amount of theorizing infantry scenarios escapes the fact that is jsut sucks and any other mech would beat the gak out of it.

Guitardian wrote:Yeah two points a round makes it REALLY viable as long range fire support dunnit? Face it the mech sucks. No amount of theorizing infantry scenarios escapes the fact that is jsut sucks and any other mech would beat the gak out of it.

I guess I am the oddball that wins with it.

HOW on earth can you do that? Okay its armored a bit but a flamer and MG as primary weapons emphasized, plus the 'plink' cannon and a ML is hardly a loadout for 40 tons. You must get really lucky with that thing. Other than it looks really cool and I have an old RalPartha fig of it, I would never have tried it out in the first place. We played group games... "what did you do on your turn jaime? um... I shot that guy for 2 points and set some woods on fire"... next turn, half hour later... same... I just don't understand how that thing can take out any other mech other than the superlucky crit shot. Maybe a variant I guess (like dump the AC/2?) but I just can't see it happening without some really really good rolls.

Guitardian wrote:Does anyone know an abandonedwarez site that has the origional dos game 'mechwarrior', 1989ish version. I have a file of it, but it blacks out as soon as you finish a mission. I don't know if its just a bad file or if it's a dosbox quirk.

But yeah, anyone with a linky to the old super old mechwarrior I would love it.

Is that the one which ends with the fight against the battlemasters?

Andrew

yes sir it is. For some reason, every version I have tried to download of it ends up cutting off at the end-of-battle sequence. I know it's freeware nowadays, but isn't there one out there that doesn't do this??? or maybe its just dosbox being flukey, I dunno.

Guitardian wrote:HOW on earth can you do that? Okay its armored a bit but a flamer and MG as primary weapons emphasized, plus the 'plink' cannon and a ML is hardly a loadout for 40 tons. You must get really lucky with that thing. Other than it looks really cool and I have an old RalPartha fig of it, I would never have tried it out in the first place. We played group games... "what did you do on your turn jaime? um... I shot that guy for 2 points and set some woods on fire"... next turn, half hour later... same... I just don't understand how that thing can take out any other mech other than the superlucky crit shot. Maybe a variant I guess (like dump the AC/2?) but I just can't see it happening without some really really good rolls.

It does not win the game, the Lance does.
One of the ways I also use it is teamed up with a Phenix Hawk, Marader and Warhammer.
Most will ignore the Vulcan while I flank with it and "Plink" at rhe Rear Armor along with the PHX.

Anpu42 wrote:

Guitardian wrote:HOW on earth can you do that? Okay its armored a bit but a flamer and MG as primary weapons emphasized, plus the 'plink' cannon and a ML is hardly a loadout for 40 tons. You must get really lucky with that thing. Other than it looks really cool and I have an old RalPartha fig of it, I would never have tried it out in the first place. We played group games... "what did you do on your turn jaime? um... I shot that guy for 2 points and set some woods on fire"... next turn, half hour later... same... I just don't understand how that thing can take out any other mech other than the superlucky crit shot. Maybe a variant I guess (like dump the AC/2?) but I just can't see it happening without some really really good rolls.

It does not win the game, the Lance does.
One of the ways I also use it is teamed up with a Phenix Hawk, Marader and Warhammer.
Most will ignore the Vulcan while I flank with it and "Plink" at rhe Rear Armor along with the PHX.

Is there a reason (aside from fluff) why one would use a Vulcan to team up with the PXH rather than, say, a Wolfhound?

At the time I developed my tactics there was no Wolf Hound, it also does not have a 6/9/6 move with no heat

Guitardian wrote:yes sir it is. For some reason, every version I have tried to download of it ends up cutting off at the end-of-battle sequence. I know it's freeware nowadays, but isn't there one out there that doesn't do this??? or maybe its just dosbox being flukey, I dunno.

I may have a slightly less that legal version of it.......I'll check.

Andrew

Best plan on those old DOS games is to just throw win98 on an old pentium 133 or something. Best $20 I ever spent was picking up a pentium 166 w/ 32MB ram and a 20GB HDD. I run a bunch of the old classics on it with much less hassle than any of the emulators I've ever used.

I found the sheet of an old favorite of mine. I used to load her up with Infernos and have Happy Pyro Days

Type/Model: Blackjack BJ-1R [Rusty]
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 1, Standard design

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Type/Model: Blackjack BJ-1R [Rusty]
Mass: 45 tons
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Single
Weapons [Loc]
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1 Autocannon/2 [RA]
1 Autocannon/2 [LA] (Ammo Locations: 1 CT)
1 SRM 2 [RA]
1 SRM 2 [LA] (Ammo Locations: 1 CT)

Honestly? That's awful. If you can devote that much tonnage to weaponry, and make a standard Shadow Hawk look mean, you haven't made a good design.

What is it supposed to do? Mildly annoy opponents? Why the speed increase? The jump jets did far more for mobility than the ground speed increase would.

Sorry, but that's horrible.

When making custom designs, isn't the most efficient just slapping as many medium lasers & heatsinks as possible on it (see Clan Black Hawk). If you're feeling the need for a little more range mix in a PPC or two?

IMO, thats why the classic designs are fun. Much more varied and interesting than just slapping together the most "efficient" max armor designs.

Oh, I agree with that. Medium laser boats are boring, and the only ones I ever use are the stock ones that exist, like the Nova and the Komodo. But those aren't great designs by any means.

I have always been a fan of the LAMs..

If the Black Jack Fluff it orginaly had no jumo jets [or is that the Clint I am thinking of?]
At Level-1 the Inernos were murder, after the first game no one would get close to me so tha AC/2s just plinked away.

No both the blackjack and the clint were jumpers in 3025 readout.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Blackjack_(BattleMech)

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Clint

You may be thinking of the Hermes II, which was 6/9/0 and also AC equipped despite its size, and extremely poor performer.

BJ-1 Blackjack Fluff

The production model differed from early prototypes in replacing the twin, arm-mounted GM Flashpoint flamers with heavier but more reliable Class 2 Whirlwind-L autocannon. This also required replacing the original Vox 225 power plant with the lighter GM 180, which reduced the Blackjack's speed and endurance. Whitworth jump jets were added to increase the 'Mech's mobility.

This is were I got the 5/8/0 movement.

hmm difficult OP

easy answer - anything with Natasha Kerensky in it

for looks loved the orginial Awesome, Warhammer, Marauder, Locust, Archer,

If ti hd to be one - it would be the Marauder

Rhonda Snord was way hotter than Natasha Kerensky

Guitardian wrote:Rhonda Snord was way hotter than Natasha Kerensky

well we were blessed with soooo many lovely 'Mech pilots - Lori Kalmar anyone..........plus half of Camacho's Caballeros and whilst not a pilot (far more dangerous) - there is always Cassie Suthorn of the same unit and Eleanor Shimazu of course

you have Rhonda - I'll have Natasha, Lori and Cassie .................

The problem with Rhonda is that she piloted a Shadowhawk origionaly, While Natasha had a Warhammer. Not a fair matchup really... Couple you forgot to mention are that Ostroc pilot from Wilson's Hussars with all the little hearts painted on it. Then, there is Yvonne Morticia and her Orion, also a jumpship pilot (brains too!), from team banzai, and dressed like Elvira... I think she wins on all counts. Brains, looks, style, and a tough mech.

I love the timex from the 3025 TRO, the often over looked Panther.

Man, that thing just soaks up damage like a sponge and keeps performing great. Which is really weird, since it's a light.

Guitardian wrote:The problem with Rhonda is that she piloted a Shadowhawk origionaly, While Natasha had a Warhammer. Not a fair matchup really... Couple you forgot to mention are that Ostroc pilot from Wilson's Hussars with all the little hearts painted on it. Then, there is Yvonne Morticia and her Orion, also a jumpship pilot (brains too!), from team banzai, and dressed like Elvira... I think she wins on all counts. Brains, looks, style, and a tough mech.

ShadowHawk was cool design as well - didn't a certain founder of the Grey Death Legion beat a Marauder and another 'Mech

Ostroc Pilot -Lt Paula Stilson, ex Cruis Lancers

some of the other "babes"
Sharon Burgoz - Sorenson's Sabres
Melissa Steiner
Candace Liao


the list as we know was very very long

Mr Morden wrote:

Guitardian wrote:The problem with Rhonda is that she piloted a Shadowhawk origionaly, While Natasha had a Warhammer. Not a fair matchup really... Couple you forgot to mention are that Ostroc pilot from Wilson's Hussars with all the little hearts painted on it. Then, there is Yvonne Morticia and her Orion, also a jumpship pilot (brains too!), from team banzai, and dressed like Elvira... I think she wins on all counts. Brains, looks, style, and a tough mech.

ShadowHawk was cool design as well - didn't a certain founder of the Grey Death Legion beat a Marauder and another 'Mech

But that is fluff wise. We all know a standard 3025 Shadow Hawk can't beat ANYTHING in the game.

rule of cool I guess

They were cool looking though and I forgot the Panther - great 'Mech

The triplets: Griffin, Wolverine, Shadowhawk... All same armor, same engine... why did the Shadowhawk suck so bad comparatively? Griffins were awesome cliff hopping snipers, wolverines could bring it on up close, shadowhawk cant jump as far, and has a totally schizophrenic weapons array.

We used to get random mech assignments playing team games (draw a card kind of thing) and getting stuck with the Shadowhawk meant plinking all game, but having decent enough armor to run out all your ammo and still not be dead yet because nobody bothered to shoot at you, so I guess they have that kind of 'ignore me' advantage.