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 quickfuze wrote:
 Sikil wrote:
I realy hope that the Dirz will remain largely the same. They where my favorite. However, I must say that I had hoped for a continuation of Ragnarok and not the skirmish game. I realy enjoed Confrontation in the mass combat version!


Too much competition out there for massed combat. I think this game was never better than during the Dogs of War progressive experience leagues time....such a good game.


Agreed!

The Great Confragnarok Swindle is what really helped hasten the overall collapse of Rackham.

Confrontation for me was best as a detailed skirmish game, with absolutely stunning miniatures.

   
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I would like to see how a skirmish game plays as I never played those, but I have to admit I have a ton of fun fielding my Dirz in the Age of Ragnorok ruleset, prepainted be damned. Nothing more sinister than 30+ clones on the tabletop, supported by all their monsters, against a horde of Wolfen.



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Sweden

AT-43 had a HUGE playerbase worldwide, and CAOR was building up steam. Problem was that the investment firm that bought Rackham overinvested in high risk companies and went belly up...

Had Rackham had serious owners and just a tad bit more funds, then the games would have had a serious chanse against the competitors. Just the simple fact that all units were assembled and painted to a tabletop standard out of the box gave the less hobby orieted the perfect excuse to get playing without having to resort to the "grey army of doom".

I gave them a wash of ink and then some hightlights and thus made armies of good size in no-time that looked great!


Anyways, I do hope that AT-43 gets resurrected one day, and that it will get a v2 of the old rules so the game gets sightly better ballance...
   
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It would have been nice if they had approached the whole Confragnarok thing with a *tad* more honesty.

Even saying 'nothing' would have been better!

Still, that was then and this is now, so best of luck to this group!

   
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exactly, the skirmish aspect was always great, but the models were the same regardless of scale, so once the models start coming the evo and rag'narok sets still work.. but more to the point some of the factions were never really numerous enough to field a large army, they relied on skirmishy forces.
   
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With the amount of ill will the change to ppp generated among the player base, i dont think aor had even the slightest chance of ever being succesfull.

A lot of hobby shop in france (their biggest market) completely cutted ties with rackham after that

lost and damned log
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/519978.page#6525039 
   
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 streetsamurai wrote:
With the amount of ill will the change to ppp generated among the player base, i dont think aor had even the slightest chance of ever being succesfull.

A lot of hobby shop in france (their biggest market) completely cutted ties with rackham after that


yeah i was mixed, I really love the PPP but I also really am into the metals :/
   
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From Facebook:



"A blast from the past :
Is it Santa on his sleigh doing overtime ? Of course not ! ^^
Meet Khelran, the Raïk of the Torches of Gerikân, one of the main orcish hordes on Aarklash."


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Melbourne, Australia

The Conf Res FB page has had some activity since the last post. Updating the survey for favourite characters from factions that will receive some love in the forthcoming KS and also posting another contest to guess ahead of time what the results will be be, and also releaseing some unseen artwork from the old game.

And then, someone posted this on another Conf FB page:



No more indication what this could mean. Cadwallon has always been pointed out as a reason why Conf hasn't been rebooted before, but if Sans Detour has or is coming to an understanding with them that can only be a good thing.

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The fact that they're referencing the project suggests they'll be working with them.
"We've been selling other people's work without paying for it but will now be a trusted partner" doesn't sound like a super strong foundation. Not one I want to put any money into anyway.

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They've stopped doing recasts before. Use to sell infinity LE's only then suddenly stopped and started carrying the whole line sans the LE's.
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 plastictrees wrote:
The fact that they're referencing the project suggests they'll be working with them.
"We've been selling other people's work without paying for it but will now be a trusted partner" doesn't sound like a super strong foundation. Not one I want to put any money into anyway.


I'd have a lot more sympathy for that characterisation if they were selling stuff that was in production at the time. I don't particularly care if ebay speculators lose out on a few quid tbh.

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Melbourne, Australia

It's fair to say that one of the reasons Confrontation is still so healthy today is because ofCadwallon.

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With a note the resulting video will be posted on YouTube.

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Wish there was more information about the upcoming game - this dribs and drabs thing is killing me!

   
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Melbourne, Australia

They've mentioned in replies to comments that they're still on track for a Q1 KS for the old rules re-release, and there's be a 'surprise' included in it. That's a direct translation of the word, so I don't know if there's colloquial connotation included in it, but there you go.

But yeah, totally with you. I have the last of my Wolfen to paint lined up after I finish these Infinity models, ready to ride the wave of re-interest.

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Melbourne, Australia

From the Conf Res FB page:

As every year, Sans-Détour will be at the International Cannes Games Festival, from Thursday 22nd to Sunday 25th of February.
The Confrontation - Classic miniatures project manager will be personally present for some great revelations about the Kickstarter being prepared!
And then, we have prepared a small gift for the occasion: come and say hello leave with our special flyer Kickstarter that will offer a little decor to go up!
Find us at Stand 06.02, just at the entrance, right down the steps.

Dear english fans, don't worry ! We won't let you down !
While being at the Games Festival in Cannes, we will upload our special Kickstarter flyer. It will include the template of our little shed and of course some infos about the upcoming campaign !

The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space. 
   
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Melbourne, Australia


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 .Mikes. wrote:
Spoiler:

Oh no... my poor wallet.

   
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Philadelphia PA

I'm deeply intrigued by this.

I've always been a Dirz fan so I'm hoping that 178 models includes some nice monstrosities.

I prefer to buy from miniature manufacturers that *don't* support the overthrow of democracy. 
   
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Any comments on how well SD would be able to pull off fulfilling a KS? I'm not familiar with the company. Thanks!

Crimson Scales and Wildspire Miniatures thread on Reaper! : https://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/103935-wildspire-miniatures-thread/ 
   
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Er, wow?

Remind me again of the material that they'll be using too?

   
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I think the term was 'high quality plastic' but don't quote me on that. It won't be metal, that;s all i know for sure.

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I assume the 178 miniatures are an "All in" pledge. Hopefully they provide some images of the miniatures soon.
   
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Melbourne, Australia

I read it like that too. I hope they have a book onlu option though.

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 .Mikes. wrote:
I read it like that too. I hope they have a book onlu option though.

Same here. I also read the French version like that.
It looks like the KS is about a special box, but then they say that 178 is the number of minis available at launch, which implies there might be more in the future. Which doesn't make sense if we're talking about a single box, and not a model line with models that can be purchased individually/by groups.
And even with a good price, 178 minis would cost a fortune, it seems difficult to have that many in a single box.
It's all very confusing…
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

fresus wrote:
 .Mikes. wrote:
I read it like that too. I hope they have a book onlu option though.

Same here. I also read the French version like that.
It looks like the KS is about a special box, but then they say that 178 is the number of minis available at launch, which implies there might be more in the future. Which doesn't make sense if we're talking about a single box, and not a model line with models that can be purchased individually/by groups.
And even with a good price, 178 minis would cost a fortune, it seems difficult to have that many in a single box.
It's all very confusing…


I think they mean at the launch of the Kickstarter, ie they're implying both that there will be stretches with more minis, and trying to ensure folk understand there will be a decent amount in there even if they only just hit their funding. EDIT: And 178 models is no problem at all if they're going with a CMON-style setup.

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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.

"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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Well, they have my attention. Big promises. Hoping to see some models/more details.
   
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The whole 178 thing is, perhaps, a bit lost in translation?

Like yes, there's going to be 178 (plus more unlocked) miniatures, but maybe spread across the 16 factions?

I liked a lot of the Confrontation factions, but even I don't need all 16's worth!

   
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 Alpharius wrote:
The whole 178 thing is, perhaps, a bit lost in translation?

Like yes, there's going to be 178 (plus more unlocked) miniatures, but maybe spread across the 16 factions?

I liked a lot of the Confrontation factions, but even I don't need all 16's worth!
The announce reads the same in french : one box with 178 different minis included at the launch of the KS. But yes it's 178 minis across the 16 factions, not 178 for each faction.
   
 
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