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At the least I know I’ll continue to use all the old buildings over those cardstock ones.

 AduroT wrote:
At the least I know I’ll continue to use all the old buildings over those cardstock ones.

Having broken the game back out (actually for Rampage/Pacific Rim 2, but PP just kept me from putting it back) I'll say the buildings are probably more worth replacing than the monsters. The monster prepaints hold up pretty well (particularly Wave 2 stuff) but the buildings are very soft, kind of tiny and lack detail. The smaller buildings have very few windows and kind of look like oversized cartoon houses and the skyscrapers are about the same height, so they're just skinny without really being that tall.

There's some winners still. The stadium and PP building is still pretty great and the landmarks still do the job. The bulk of buildings though I think I'll be happy to see replaced with the new style.

IMO this game wins the award for coolest most fun sounding concept paired with the most 'meh' models.

Glad it's coming back for those who wanted it and I'll keep an eye on future releases.

I'm worried the martian walker monster will be super brittle in resin.

Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
IMO this game wins the award for coolest most fun sounding concept paired with the most 'meh' models.

Glad it's coming back for those who wanted it and I'll keep an eye on future releases.

I'll second this response pretty hardily. The initial release models aren't particularly bad sculpts, they are just kind of mediocre and uninspiring. The concept however, sounds amazing. Rampage the miniature game is just too cool of a concept to pass (though I did skip it before because I didn't like the prepainted, random packed nature of the game). Hopefully some more inspiring looking stuff will show up soon.

LunarSol wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
At the least I know I’ll continue to use all the old buildings over those cardstock ones.

Having broken the game back out (actually for Rampage/Pacific Rim 2, but PP just kept me from putting it back) I'll say the buildings are probably more worth replacing than the monsters. The monster prepaints hold up pretty well (particularly Wave 2 stuff) but the buildings are very soft, kind of tiny and lack detail. The smaller buildings have very few windows and kind of look like oversized cartoon houses and the skyscrapers are about the same height, so they're just skinny without really being that tall.

There's some winners still. The stadium and PP building is still pretty great and the landmarks still do the job. The bulk of buildings though I think I'll be happy to see replaced with the new style.

Replace the old plastic buildings with new resin ones when those are available, sure. The old plastics are probably still better than the cardstock boxes in the starters though.

malfred wrote:I'm worried the martian walker monster will be super brittle in resin.

I imagine they’d do metal legs for those.

 malfred wrote:
I'm worried the martian walker monster will be super brittle in resin.

Being PP's new resin, you have the opposite problem. It wont break, but it'll be easy to accidentally shave a piece off - it's pretty soft compared to normal resin.

And some price details emerge...

http://www.phdgames.com/monsterpocalypse-miniatures-game/

....there's a launch tournament and League kit for Organised Play too.

Sounds dumbed down.

The models are looking nice. Sounds like some of the tiwddly bits of the game got adjusted to be more sensible. I'll want to play a demo first but this looks like a good game to play with the family

lord_blackfang wrote:Sounds dumbed down.

ChargerIIC wrote:The models are looking nice. Sounds like some of the tiwddly bits of the game got adjusted to be more sensible. I'll want to play a demo first but this looks like a good game to play with the family

Hmmm....

The Usual, then?

Truth in the middle?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Sounds dumbed down.

It really kind of needed to be. As much as I adore the original game, the building rules were kind of a mess and there were a lot of really trivial ways to abuse the way triggers worked. Most of the complication was in the units and buildings and dumbing that down to make monsters more meaningful would be a great change overall.

I had a passing interest when this originally came out, since at the time I was really into Wamrachine, but the random booster system threw me off.

Now it's the buildings, I liked the idea of real solid buildings on my table rather than cardstock. I just don't place that much value in something I could do myself.

I'm hoping if this does take off we'll see some third party buildings - it seems like it'd be easy enough to cast up.

PP is going to make resin buildings themselves, they’re just not in the starter boxes. Tournament OP kits will have alternate sculpt resin buildings as well, with the first one being PP headquarters.

No plastic buildings eh?

Looks like cardboard in the starter, but plastic in building expansions?

Folding cardstock in the starters, resin buildings available seperately with alternate sculpt resin buildings as tournament prizes.

are the buildings confirmed to be cardstock? the pics of the starter boxes I've seen have all been "An Artists Impression" of the contents. (it looks like the graphic artist had an afternoon to produce promo for product that doesn't exist yet, not enough time to do it convincingly - just flat art skewed into a 3Dish shape) the fact that they had rotating 3D wireframes of buildings in the video suggests that that there will be propper solid buildings (or why go to the effort of 3D modeling buildings?)

 Z-Ray wrote:
are the buildings confirmed to be cardstock? the pics of the starter boxes I've seen have all been "An Artists Impression" of the contents. (it looks like the graphic artist had an afternoon to produce promo for product that doesn't exist yet, not enough time to do it convincingly - just flat art skewed into a 3Dish shape) the fact that they had rotating 3D wireframes of buildings in the video suggests that that there will be propper solid buildings (or why go to the effort of 3D modeling buildings?)

The starter sets will include 8 (I think) cardboard buildings, but PP will release resin building models at a later date in packs of 3. I don't know about the new version, but in the last one, the buildings themselves were unique and had special rules. There were about two dozen different ones too - though I think they mentioned simplifying it a bit.

Personally, as much as I like MonPoc, this new version is looking pretty expensive. $50 a monster (with two the expected game size) + $20 per 3 units (15 is the desired count) + $??? for sets of 3 buildings (need at least 2 or 3 sets) - it's starting to look like a basic game of MonPoc will cost over $200 per player.

The buildings will again have special rules to benefit your monster or hurt the opposing monster when controlled by your units.


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The alternate sculpt for Gencon this year;

That looks nice...

So... I had started to finally warm up to the idea of the new Monsterpocalypse, but that video kind of soured me on it again. I know no one in it is an actor, but their 'excitement' was rather transparent. Everything they talked about was already in the original game, so, why do they make it sound like this is a whole new experience? I'm still puzzled why they would feel the need to completely exile all the old game stuff if not much will have changed. They could have easily just scaled everything to the original figure's size, and released new characters from the same factions, instead of remaking ones we already had. People who enjoyed a particular faction would have bought in for the new stuff, and new people would be able to jump in with the new items. I get that they wanted to get rid of the whole Hyper/mega/quantum forms, but these could have been served by just having a specific paint color, or even just a counter on the newer figures to indicate they were Normal/Hyper/Mega/Quantum King Kondo (for example). The whole thing just seems very forced, and rushed. Why release when you only have two monsters? Just wait, get at least 6, and then release them. Are they trying to capitalize on Pacific Rim 2's coming out? It wasn't that big a hit, overshadowed but Infinity war, and everything else. At least release the terrorsaur to capitalize on Jurassic World 2!! The whole thing is giving me flashbacks to the gawd awful release of Age of Sigmar a few years back. At least there they gave us a nice pat on the head with 'End Times', before the kick in the butt. And they still let us use all our old figures too.

Sorry, a bit ranty...

I do like PP, and Monsterpocalypse, this just doesn't feel right though.

P.S. - Did they switch the lore around on the Shadow Sun Syndicate? Before they were a bunch of Yakuza/Triad underground scientists who had developed unstable 'secret techniques' for making giant fighters. I always thought it was a cool take on that 60's Ultraman schtick. Now they seem to be a soulless mega corp with 'dubious' goals. However, that whole concept was so better served by the faction 'Ubercorp', where they were just out to boost their self image, and had no originality so they just copied the existing monsters, making an entire faction of 'Mecha- clones', which was AWESOME!!

They probably didn't actually change the SSS lore, but they're probably presenting it differently since they're no longer designed to ally with the Martians.

As for the presentation, I try to remember that it has been a decade since the original and for a general audience that either never played or didn't really remember the details of the original. They're selling it like a totally new thing and for a number of people, it is.

I am disappointed in the weak launch, but it is a fair number of SKUs since they're getting units out right away. If they have 6 monsters out by Christmas I'll feel a lot better about it than I do right now.

 ScarletRose wrote:
I had a passing interest when this originally came out, since at the time I was really into Wamrachine, but the random booster system threw me off.

Now it's the buildings, I liked the idea of real solid buildings on my table rather than cardstock. I just don't place that much value in something I could do myself.

I'm hoping if this does take off we'll see some third party buildings - it seems like it'd be easy enough to cast up.

E-bay to grab the old buildings?

I’d get back in Monsterapocalypse, but I have a complete set of the old stuff I want to use, and I’ve got enough on my plate as-is. Would love to pick up their old Voltron set, and I’d be a shoe-in for the new if they came out with another Voltron set based on the new Dreamworks series.

Rulebook posted

https://www.monsterpocalypse.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/MonPoc-Rulebook-WEB.pdf

I thought one of the reasons they touted for the scale change was the game was going gridless.

The posted rulebook shows playing on a gridded play mat?

 Stormonu wrote:
I thought one of the reasons they touted for the scale change was the game was going gridless.

The posted rulebook shows playing on a gridded play mat?

So do all the previews we've seen so far. I don't recall them ever saying otherwise

As far as I can tell the game is basically the same.

Edit: "Damned West Country accent!"

Reassuringly so - although farewell Smash. Armodeax will miss you....