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 Mmmpi wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
You say “omnicidal lunatic” like it’s a bad thing.

MALVINA FOREVER

What about Circe Clannister?

Her name is Katherine.

Ah, I've got my pychotics mixed up again.

 Mmmpi wrote:
Ah, I've got my pychotics mixed up again.

Psychopaths and/or narcissists. Neither Cersei nor Katherine are properly speaking psychotic, per the actual technical definition of the term.

The use of mentally unbalanced characters though as the villains is another tired pattern in BattleTech, and one that is unfortunately still continuing.

It's part of their recommended diet of lead paint chips.

You mean wall candy?

 Manchu wrote:
Decadent freebirther drama ...

If the Inner Sphere was run on Clan rules things would have been a lot different after Victor's return from Strana Mechty...

Yvonne goes crying to Victor for totally stuffing things up.

Victor challenges Katherine to Trial of Grievance.

One cERPPC to the head.

Job done.

Seyla.

 Chillreaper wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
Decadent freebirther drama ...

If the Inner Sphere was run on Clan rules things would have been a lot different after Victor's return from Strana Mechty...

Yvonne goes crying to Victor for totally stuffing things up.

Victor challenges Katherine to Trial of Grievance.

One cERPPC to the head.

Job done.

Seyla.

Although Clan poltics does exist as well

 Chillreaper wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
Decadent freebirther drama ...

If the Inner Sphere was run on Clan rules things would have been a lot different after Victor's return from Strana Mechty...

Yvonne goes crying to Victor for totally stuffing things up.

Victor challenges Katherine to Trial of Grievance.

One cERPPC to the head.

Job done.

Seyla.

well yeah but it wasn't Victor who went off to join the clans. I honestly NEVER understood what Vald saw in her.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Chillreaper wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
Decadent freebirther drama ...

If the Inner Sphere was run on Clan rules things would have been a lot different after Victor's return from Strana Mechty...

Yvonne goes crying to Victor for totally stuffing things up.

Victor challenges Katherine to Trial of Grievance.

One cERPPC to the head.

Job done.

Seyla.

well yeah but it wasn't Victor who went off to join the clans. I honestly NEVER understood what Vald saw in her.

Definitely the weirdest hook-up since Ninyu Kerai Indrahar and Cassie Suthorn.

Nurglitch wrote:
You mean wall candy?

Yup, that damn lostech paint!


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BrianDavion wrote:

 Chillreaper wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
Decadent freebirther drama ...

If the Inner Sphere was run on Clan rules things would have been a lot different after Victor's return from Strana Mechty...

Yvonne goes crying to Victor for totally stuffing things up.

Victor challenges Katherine to Trial of Grievance.

One cERPPC to the head.

Job done.

Seyla.

well yeah but it wasn't Victor who went off to join the clans. I honestly NEVER understood what Vald saw in her.

Maybe he liked blondes? Or he thought banging Phelan's cousin/relative was a revenge thing?

Nurglitch wrote:
You mean wall candy?

That's a deep cut...

So... bad news?

Yes. Just means another 20 years of getting zero Robotech products in the US.

 Elbows wrote:
Yes. Just means another 20 years of getting zero Robotech products in the US.

well why actually produce stuff when you can just bully smaller companies that create anything remotely mech related in an attempt to get settlement money from them?

the first Lawsuit against FASA was... at least understandable. their later ones against Pihirana games and HG was just... absolutely unforgivable corperate bullying.

I thought that the last court ruling told them they couldn't do that anymore, they could only bring suit over direct infringement cases.

the first Lawsuit against FASA was... at least understandable. their later ones against Pihirana games and HG was just... absolutely unforgivable corperate bullying.

The first one against FASA was corporate bullying also. If you look at Harmony Gold's history, it is full of lawsuits. The last two dismissed with Prejudice (one against Hasbro). Japanese Court Ruled that Studio Nue owns the Intellectual rights to Macross, not Tatsunoko Productions who give harmony gold their license to distribute. Incidentally Fasa's licensing came from Twentieth Century Imports, who got it from ... Studio Nue.

I thought that the last court ruling told them they couldn't do that anymore, they could only bring suit over direct infringement cases.

Pretty much at this point they are only going to be able to sue over Black Market Copies of DVDs they make.

Yes. Just means another 20 years of getting zero Robotech products in the US.

This, this is what that extension means. I suspect Tatsunoko productions does not get royalties from any of the merchandise or this would be a stupid move on their part. They may be doing it to screw Studio Nue out of their potential earnings.

Oh well. Many of the redesigns are simply better than the originals. The Original Warhammer was one of the best designed Mecha ever in my opinion. The Catalyst redesign by Shimmering Sword just takes that to a new level. I hope I don't need to purchase 12 lances to get 12 models. I don't need 12 of the other mechs it will come with.

 Mmmpi wrote:
I thought that the last court ruling told them they couldn't do that anymore, they could only bring suit over direct infringement cases.

they did, I was being sarcasitic. if you read the judges ruling and read between the lines it's apparently pretty obvious he was PISSED with HG for wasting his time.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Gitzbitah wrote:
That's really surprising. I thought all the 3025 grognards who pop a vein in their forehead at the mention of pulse weaponry were all too busy swooning over the plastic Marauder.

It looks like this will have something for everyone- and I'd expect a Clan only and Inner Sphere only pledge, especially with the way the mechs are already packaged. Given how the Clan invasion was finally stopped- it's even probable there will be a Comguard Level II pack at some point in the campaign with Star League designs.

Now once the kickstarter comments start up, especially with stretch goals, you'll see vatbirth, freebirth, and all the other wonderful epithets that the two factions hold for each other.

keep in mind the 3025 grognards may be vocal but they're a small aprt of the battletech community a very very small part. and the rest of the community laughs at them openly TBH.

they're the Btech equivilant of that guy whose never moved beyond 2nd edition D&D. and what 40k players in ten years will inevitaly think of the people hating the post gathering storm era

>People who have an opinion about a piece of fiction/preference for a certain ruleset.
>People who laugh at other people for having an opinion on a piece of fiction/preference for a certain ruleset.

I know which group seems farcical to me, and it ain't the "grognards".

Trust me man, it's the "grognards". And you're misrepresenting it completely.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Trust me man, it's the "grognards". And you're misrepresenting it completely.

What's to misrepresent? Choosing not to play versions of D&D past 2nd doesn't make you a bad person. Disliking and ignoring post-Gathering Storm 40K fluff doesn't make you a bad person. Since those are supposedly the equivalents of BattleTech fans who prefer to discard post-3025, I can only conclude they're not bad people either.

Laughing at people for not sharing your own taste, however...

I'm sorry if I came across as harsh, my intention was only to amuse by playing up the stereotypes around those who exclusively play 3025.

Everyone has their favorite era, and the wonderful thing about Battletech is it's there for everyone. I love that you could pick it up after 20 years, and only have a few small interactions different in actual gameplay.

I enjoy playing in most eras- though I must admit I'm not a fan of the Dark Age. To me, with all the Battlemechs out there and available to pilot I want to try them all, not just the ones that were out at release. But hey, if I'm the bad guy that's pretty normal- my favorite faction are Word of Blake!

my favorite faction are Word of Blake!

yeah ok we can't be friends anymore! j/k

*is pretty sure his favorite faction is obvious*

BrianDavion wrote:

my favorite faction are Word of Blake!

yeah ok we can't be friends anymore! j/k

*is pretty sure his favorite faction is obvious*

Is it the Draconis Combine?

Capellan Confederation!

M.

 Miguelsan wrote:
Capellan Confederation!

M.

Don't make me "liberate" you.

 Yodhrin wrote:
What's to misrepresent? Choosing not to play versions of D&D past 2nd doesn't make you a bad person. Disliking and ignoring post-Gathering Storm 40K fluff doesn't make you a bad person. Since those are supposedly the equivalents of BattleTech fans who prefer to discard post-3025, I can only conclude they're not bad people either.

As I said, you are misrepresenting it completely.

The grogs aren't people who dislike post 3025 stuff. The grogs are people who believe that the game is forever ruined/tainted by anything from the Clans onwards, constantly denigrate it, and complain about it all the time, attacking and insulting anyone who dares to go beyond the 4th Succession War.

They're not you disliking Dark Imperium. They're something beyond that.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
What's to misrepresent? Choosing not to play versions of D&D past 2nd doesn't make you a bad person. Disliking and ignoring post-Gathering Storm 40K fluff doesn't make you a bad person. Since those are supposedly the equivalents of BattleTech fans who prefer to discard post-3025, I can only conclude they're not bad people either.

As I said, you are misrepresenting it completely.

The grogs aren't people who dislike post 3025 stuff. The grogs are people who believe that the game is forever ruined/tainted by anything from the Clans onwards, constantly denigrate it, and complain about it all the time, attacking and insulting anyone who dares to go beyond the 4th Succession War.

They're not you disliking Dark Imperium. They're something beyond that.

to use a 40k comparison, this would be someone who on Dakka dakka goes onto every thread that so much as mentions space marines, and says how aweful primaris and the gathering storm is, implies anyone who likes Primaris, Yannari, Gulliman or anything else from gathering storm or post is a tasteless idiot, and anyone who uses Primaris marines is "playing wrong"

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

The grogs aren't people who dislike post 3025 stuff. The grogs are people who believe that the game is forever ruined/tainted by anything from the Clans onwards, constantly denigrate it, and complain about it all the time, attacking and insulting anyone who dares to go beyond the 4th Succession War.
They're not you disliking Dark Imperium. They're something beyond that.

More baloney served up. What’s toxic is ‘gatekeepers’ who feel they decide what constitutes ‘acceptable’ fandom. I am free to say Battletech fiction sucks from the Clans onward. You can disagree, but that doesn’t make you any more correct than me on an opinion, or me less of a fan. If you like the Clans, good for you. Sorry you can’t deal with it that some don’t, but that’s life.

 totalfailure wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

The grogs aren't people who dislike post 3025 stuff. The grogs are people who believe that the game is forever ruined/tainted by anything from the Clans onwards, constantly denigrate it, and complain about it all the time, attacking and insulting anyone who dares to go beyond the 4th Succession War.
They're not you disliking Dark Imperium. They're something beyond that.

More baloney served up. What’s toxic is ‘gatekeepers’ who feel they decide what constitutes ‘acceptable’ fandom. I am free to say Battletech fiction sucks from the Clans onward. You can disagree, but that doesn’t make you any more correct than me on an opinion, or me less of a fan. If you like the Clans, good for you. Sorry you can’t deal with it that some don’t, but that’s life.

no ones gate keeping, I simply said by and large that kinda additude wasn't the main stream of the battletech fanbase

No more monkey business, harmony Gold! I want my Marauder!