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Making 2 different sprue would cost them more, I doubt GW would do this.
   
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It'll be one sprue repeated, like every box so far. Which means an even number of Ogryns, likely 4.
   
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Did we get definite confirmation that these are only usable as a Gang, and can’t be hired guns?

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Obviously they can be also used as a Servitor Ogryn brute,,,, provided you got the credit, and a free hanger-on slot.... so very limited use in gang.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Did we get definite confirmation that these are only usable as a Gang, and can’t be hired guns?

The "‘Jotunn’ H-Grade Servitor-Ogryn" brute already exists, and can be built from the kit.
   
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A very good point! Didn’t think of that.


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Man, I’d be tempted to work them in as an NPC type game for a heavy narrative campaign.

Gangs try to raid an industrial site, harm an overseer, and the Ogryns have none of it.

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There’s been promo photos with incomplete unit sizes/ box contents before so the fact that there’s 3 in the first photo is not a great indicator that there’ll be 3 in the kit, especially when all the other evidence points to it being an even number.
   
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 ImAGeek wrote:
There’s been promo photos with incomplete unit sizes/ box contents before so the fact that there’s 3 in the first photo is not a great indicator that there’ll be 3 in the kit, especially when all the other evidence points to it being an even number.

What evidence points to it being an even number?

It's also worth mentioning that the promo shots with incomplete unit sizes/box contents are usually because of duplicates being present--but they still note the duplication.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
There’s been promo photos with incomplete unit sizes/ box contents before so the fact that there’s 3 in the first photo is not a great indicator that there’ll be 3 in the kit, especially when all the other evidence points to it being an even number.

What evidence points to it being an even number?

It's also worth mentioning that the promo shots with incomplete unit sizes/box contents are usually because of duplicates being present--but they still note the duplication.


2 sets of legs, 2 torso fronts in different combinations in all of the images. All other Necromunda gangs are 1 sprue duplicated (including the new Goliath one coming this week), which would make it an even number.

   
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Would be even sweeter if these parts are already compatible out of the box with the current Ogryn kit.

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

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 ImAGeek wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
There’s been promo photos with incomplete unit sizes/ box contents before so the fact that there’s 3 in the first photo is not a great indicator that there’ll be 3 in the kit, especially when all the other evidence points to it being an even number.

What evidence points to it being an even number?

It's also worth mentioning that the promo shots with incomplete unit sizes/box contents are usually because of duplicates being present--but they still note the duplication.


2 sets of legs, 2 torso fronts in different combinations in all of the images. All other Necromunda gangs are 1 sprue duplicated (including the new Goliath one coming this week), which would make it an even number.

Maybe, maybe not. The only duplication we've seen here has been the running bodied Ogryn...which incidentally has also been the only one shown with the Storm Welder.

We've seen the Arc Welder on both sets of bodies, and it looks like it is just a backpack with wires that run to it, and the right arm version just brings an extra wire that hooks into an augmetic fist.
   
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I always liked the look of the Pit Slave gang they put out in White Dwarf sometime during Necromunda's second edition, and a gang of renegade ogryn labor cyborgs might be as close as we get to those lads, so I might be open to buying this box. Depends on how the gang rules themselves look like, for things like variety, expansion potential, and so on.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Would be even sweeter if these parts are already compatible out of the box with the current Ogryn kit.


Probably not out of the box, modern GW design usually has more bespoke arrangements than that, but I expect there's going to be some intercompatibility.

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I knew that head looked familiar...

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
There’s been promo photos with incomplete unit sizes/ box contents before so the fact that there’s 3 in the first photo is not a great indicator that there’ll be 3 in the kit, especially when all the other evidence points to it being an even number.

What evidence points to it being an even number?

It's also worth mentioning that the promo shots with incomplete unit sizes/box contents are usually because of duplicates being present--but they still note the duplication.


2 sets of legs, 2 torso fronts in different combinations in all of the images. All other Necromunda gangs are 1 sprue duplicated (including the new Goliath one coming this week), which would make it an even number.

Maybe, maybe not. The only duplication we've seen here has been the running bodied Ogryn...which incidentally has also been the only one shown with the Storm Welder.

We've seen the Arc Welder on both sets of bodies, and it looks like it is just a backpack with wires that run to it, and the right arm version just brings an extra wire that hooks into an augmetic fist.
I'm gonna go out on a limb... I think there is only one sprue, that can be built into either pose depending on which lower legs you select. If you look at the folds of the pants particularly how they converge towards the cod piece... its identical for both models... so maybe there is a basic body and upper legs and 4 different below the knee lower legs. Then it looks like there are two different belly pieces and two different neck area (between suspenders), 4 different arms, 4 different heads, 2 different back packs... then all the little bits. If that is how it goes together, that could easily all fit on a single sprue. At that point its just like the Ambot where they throw two identical sprues in a box and call it a kit.

Something else to consider and this is a "maybe"... but both backpacks are symmetrical with 2 narrow cylindrically symmetrical sections assembled on the back. If the sprue were limited on space and they were committed to selling them in kits of 2 sprues, they might only be 1/2 of each backpack on each sprue

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Dunno. The positioning of the thighs show two sculpts?

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 aka_mythos wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
There’s been promo photos with incomplete unit sizes/ box contents before so the fact that there’s 3 in the first photo is not a great indicator that there’ll be 3 in the kit, especially when all the other evidence points to it being an even number.

What evidence points to it being an even number?

It's also worth mentioning that the promo shots with incomplete unit sizes/box contents are usually because of duplicates being present--but they still note the duplication.


2 sets of legs, 2 torso fronts in different combinations in all of the images. All other Necromunda gangs are 1 sprue duplicated (including the new Goliath one coming this week), which would make it an even number.

Maybe, maybe not. The only duplication we've seen here has been the running bodied Ogryn...which incidentally has also been the only one shown with the Storm Welder.

We've seen the Arc Welder on both sets of bodies, and it looks like it is just a backpack with wires that run to it, and the right arm version just brings an extra wire that hooks into an augmetic fist.
I'm gonna go out on a limb... I think there is only one sprue, that can be built into either pose depending on which lower legs you select. If you look at the folds of the pants particularly how they converge towards the cod piece... its identical for both models... so maybe there is a basic body and upper legs and 4 different below the knee lower legs. Then it looks like there are two different belly pieces and two different neck area (between suspenders), 4 different arms, 4 different heads, 2 different back packs... then all the little bits. If that is how it goes together, that could easily all fit on a single sprue. At that point its just like the Ambot where they throw two identical sprues in a box and call it a kit.

Something else to consider and this is a "maybe"... but both backpacks are symmetrical with 2 narrow cylindrically symmetrical sections assembled on the back. If the sprue were limited on space and they were committed to selling them in kits of 2 sprues, they might only be 1/2 of each backpack on each sprue

Interesting thought, but if you look at the strap on the left leg you can see that it is different in each config. One strap is buckled after two stitches, the other is buckled after three.

It doesn't totally quash your idea, but it would be a very unusual design for that strap detail to be a separate bit that lays into a cavity on the anterior thigh, rather than being moulded directly into the thigh.
   
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Every single Necromunda plastic box so far has been one sprue replicated. Every single box. It is cheaper to cut a single mold and cast it twice than it is to produce two molds and cast them once each. It's cheaper by such a hilarious margin that the idea they suddenly decided to drop the practice of producing a single sprue and casting it twice for the Ogryn gang is utterly ridiculous.

The economics dictate what we can expect to see.

Which will be two copies of a single sprue. That means an even number of Ogryns. Likely 4.
   
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Looking at the NZ GW site, the Goliath Stimmers and Forge-born box has no options -

This kit is supplied as 112 components that make 2 Goliath Stimmers, one armed with paired pulverizers and one armed with assault grenade launchers, and 4 Goliath Forge-born, two armed with storm-welders and two armed with heavy rock saws. It comes supplied with 2 Necromunda 40mm bases and 4 Necromunda 25mm bases.


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Oh, turns out it has precisely what I thought it would, for the reasons mentioned on the ogryn sprues.

Yay -_-
   
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Further evidence Stimmers and Forgeborn aren’t replacing owt.

And don’t worry lads, it’s nowt a Webber can’t handle..........
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Absolutely zero options.

Welcome to Necromunda: Warcry Edition.

   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Absolutely zero options.

Welcome to Necromunda: Warcry Edition.
The options will likely be provided by ForgeWorld resin at about three times the price anybody would want to pay for them, and out of stock every time you consider ordering them. Welcome to Necromunda.
   
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The description is wrong, typical clueless webstore staffs, You get one option for each.

Still kinda meh, if they have this little amount of option, probably should be something cool, like electrocution fists.
   
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And so having been proved wrong that Champions, Juves and Brutes were being removed, here we see the serial whiners shift target to continue their cacophony.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
And so having been proved wrong that Champions, Juves and Brutes were being removed, here we see the serial whiners shift target to continue their cacophony.
They just put up a pre-order for a new completely mono-pose optionless kit. This is the antithesis of Necromunda.

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Oh really? Like how Necromunda started with all those multi-pose metal kits?

Oh wait, that's complete bs. Aside from a single, hard to find, generic weapons sprue, Necromunda was single pose models for a decade, requiring players to heavily convert everything.

Only in the early '00's did we get a handful of arm/weapons options in kits.

Now, over 25 years on, were getting more options, multi-pose, plastic kits, and only special characters, and a few bespoke items like guilders are single pose models.

If you can't manage to do a few simple kitbashes after that many years in the hobby, that's no one's fault but your own.

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
And so having been proved wrong that Champions, Juves and Brutes were being removed, here we see the serial whiners shift target to continue their cacophony.


"Proved wrong" implies people were arguing they would be replacing existing options, when what people were actually saying was they were worried existing options would be replaced and thought that would be a bad thing, at which point the GW Volunteer Defence Force decided to start arguing that anyone who wants to keep using Juves was an unreasonable nostalgic mentally trapped in 1995. Come off it eh.

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 Yodhrin wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
And so having been proved wrong that Champions, Juves and Brutes were being removed, here we see the serial whiners shift target to continue their cacophony.


"Proved wrong" implies people were arguing they would be replacing existing options, when what people were actually saying was they were worried existing options would be replaced and thought that would be a bad thing, at which point the GW Volunteer Defence Force decided to start arguing that anyone who wants to keep using Juves was an unreasonable nostalgic mentally trapped in 1995. Come off it eh.


You're right, both sides were entirely correct.

Some people live to complain.

And this is entirely subjective, of course, but being an old timer myself I can say this without hesitation: Necromunda in 2020 is absolutely in an infinitely better place than old Necromunda was in any year, with literally years more support (and potential surprises like the Ogryn gang) lined up and set in stone.

Not every aspect of it is going to fit into how you might have wanted it to look. That's called "life". I genuinely worry about those whose first instinct is to desperately scrabble for something to complain about when something new comes out for their hobby in terms of how they deal with the world inevitably not aligning to their weirdly specific expectations in any other aspect of life... if you get this upset over Necromunda, how do you deal with taxes, or relationships, or poorly thought out cycle lanes? Are you perpetually upset?

Chill out.

And I'm gonna go out on a limb here and repeat that the Ogryn box is a repeated sprue of two bodies for a total of four ogryns because there is zero evidence to suggest GW literally completely changed the way they produce Neceomunda kits as of a planned Ogryn gang release.

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I really like the models, and it looks like some customization should be a cinch.

However, I'm curious what add-ons they'll do for bosses...
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Further evidence Stimmers and Forgeborn aren’t replacing owt.

And don’t worry lads, it’s nowt a Webber can’t handle..........

Looks, like they're doing some comprehensive renaming, though? So people might *actually* lose access to any fighter called a "juve" after all

That blurry table of contents looks like:

Forge Tyrant
Forge Boss
Stimmer
Forge-born
Bruiser
Bully (regular juve!)
   
 
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