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Rule 2: Stay on Topic
After reading and posting at Dakka for awhile you may feel as though you have developed friendships with some, perhaps many, of the other posters and readers. This is probably one of the most rewarding parts of participating in a discussion area. It is only natural to occasionally want to share information with your friends that is "Off Topic" (i.e. not related to the subject matter of the forum you are in).

While it may at first seem harmless to post a bit about off topic (OT) subjects, it can become a slippery slope. If others join in on OT posts then soon everybody has sent the discussion threads on so many tangents that it is difficult to follow the original topic. Further, posting off topic essentially violates Rule #1. People come to Dakka looking for information related to the hobby. It is not polite to post off topic items frequently.

If you wish to discuss a topic that doesn't pertain to wargaming, it should be started in the "Off-Topic" forum.

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Of course, whinging incessantly in the End of the Brick and Mortar thread about GW's new Catachan is totes on-topic and any posts alleging otherwise will be deleted.

You make it up as you go.

Excommunicatus, the post I deleted was one user literally dropping an F-bomb on another user about COVID-19... it had absolutely nothing to do with the Catachan model. If a thread gets OT just hit the yellow triangle with a note like "Can a mod ask for this thread to get back on topic?"

From what I can tell, distribution of the Catachan model is a pretty relevant thing for a brick and mortar store discussion, though, right? I'll check that out now...

Edit: The discussion in that thread has wandered a bit, but mostly been fine for such a vague OP / topic. Honestly, if we cracked down on a thread like that for being OT, not many on Dakka would survive as there are a lot of elements relating to how FLGS are doing in the pandemic.

I was literally in the process of joining the catachan mini thread with some positive comments on the details but it’s locked just as I’m about to post. And low and behold, it’s because of him again. At exactly the same time he’s starting trouble in the corona thread, yet again.

I was going to suggest a solution but since I think that you wouldn’t like it, I’ll bite my tongue.

Hey guys, while we don't mind responding to moderation questions in here, if you have an issue with another specific user it's not appropriate for us to talk about it here.

Please feel free to PM a mod with any concerns, but let's keep this thread from focusing on other specific users. Thanks!

While I don't want to be finger pointing, right now there is a user posting in at least six different threads at once who is just antagonizing everyone while not actually joining the discussion.
All those threads have completely been turned into this user vs. all of dakka, completely drowning any of the interesting discussion going on there before.
Note that there are a handful of users regularly doing this.

They aren't actually breaking any forum rules, but it's extremely frustrating, and the only thing I can do about it is unsubscribe the threads and stop reading them, because otherwise my lack of self-control will make me part of the problem.
The ignore function simply isn't enough when someone continuously succeeds making threads become about themselves.

 Jidmah wrote:
While I don't want to be finger pointing, right now there is a user posting in at least six different threads at once who is just antagonizing everyone while not actually joining the discussion.
All those threads have completely been turned into this user vs. all of dakka, completely drowning any of the interesting discussion going on there before.
Note that there are a handful of users regularly doing this.

They aren't actually breaking any forum rules, but it's extremely frustrating, and the only thing I can do about it is unsubscribe the threads and stop reading them, because otherwise my lack of self-control will make me part of the problem.
The ignore function simply isn't enough when someone continuously succeeds making threads become about themselves.

I think I know who you mean, posts full of condescension and a sort of 'one true way' tone?

I reported all the posts I thought were actionable, as mentioned in the thread prev. that seems to be all we can do.

We might be talking about the same person.

Report and move on.

Talking about people in a very lax manner and you could be talking about the same person or different persons or even each other.

Remember how you interpret a post and its content is not the same as how others might interpret it. You might see an insult whilst another sees a simple comment; you might see incorrect facts where another might know otherwise; you might see trolling whilst another just sees general banter etc...

Report - explain in the report - move on. Use the ignore system and if you really really REALLY can't stand the other person just don't respond to them.

I don't care about what that person writes - I care about an interesting thread having gone to gak because certain people decided to start a fight with everyone.

Also hard to ignore that person when their gak is getting threads you’d like to participate in locked. That’s not ignorable.

And here the mods have explained that they aren’t prepared to get rid of them. Something’s got to give.

 Future War Cultist wrote:
Also hard to ignore that person when their gak is getting threads you’d like to participate in locked. That’s not ignorable.

True, but unless the lock mentions that the discussion is banned formally you can often re-start discussions from the positive point of the original topic. Of course you have to be sensible. If the original topic was "Female marines" then chances are starting it again won't go down well. However if it was "What's the best Necron Model" and the discussion went bananas then you can start it up again.



Interestingly whenever I've seen or locked threads on topics, even when specifically mentioning that people can start a new thread on the original topic - very very very few people ever do.

 Future War Cultist wrote:

And here the mods have explained that they aren’t prepared to get rid of them.

That's not what was said, at all. But even if it was, it wouldn't mean that we're not interested in doing something about it, if someone's actually causing issues. We would need more than vague hints to look into it, though. Hence the suggestion to report the posts in question.


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It's also worth pointing out, though, that 'being disliked by someone' is not against the rules. And that it generally takes more than one person to derail a thread...

Will do. In such cases, what do I put as reason?

I'll add my weight to this, they are a nuisance and is actually one of the specific posters that was central to this thread being created.

About the point above, there are many posters I actually don't like on this forum but would not report - some have even posted in this thread, but they aren't trolls, this one is an absolute troll.

 Jidmah wrote:
Will do. In such cases, what do I put as reason?

Whatever is appropriate for the issue. Kind of hard to say without seeing the posts.

If you think they're trolling, or arguing on bad faith to derail the thread, then say that.

Guys, again, feel free to PM a mod if you want to explain an issue with a specific user in detail, as we're not going to discuss individual users here.

Otherwise, as noted, please use the yellow triangle to point us to rule breaking posts. But if there's a larger "general" issue, a PM could be much more useful.

Can any mods explain why my venn diagram was removed from the cv thread for being 'non wargaming' but all the other images posted since have been left alone?

I wasnt the one to remove it but generally that happens when someone directly attaches the image to a post and thus it gets hosted by dakka (and we only allow wargaming images). The few images I just looked at are hosted offsite and linked using image tags.

Right, any non-wargaming images uploaded to Dakka get removed (reviewing images is actually a manual process, thank goodness we've got a few folks super dedicated to it!).

If it wasn't hosted here, I'd have to check further, but that seems the most likely. If your post had been edited directly it would show up in the automated moderator log, and there's nothing there for it, so this seems like the only explanation.

Fair enough. Yeah I just upload directly, so that makes sense. I was wondering if it was a content issue.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Fair enough. Yeah I just upload directly, so that makes sense. I was wondering if it was a content issue.

No, common thing.

If it's non-wargaming, host it using imgur and use the tags on there to post it here.

 Ouze wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Fair enough. Yeah I just upload directly, so that makes sense. I was wondering if it was a content issue.

No, common thing.

If it's non-wargaming, host it using imgur and use the tags on there to post it here.

Or if you use Discord, you can upload it there and link it. I've done that a few times.

I just wanted to stop by to say thank you for this thread. I used to harbour a lot of resentment towards you staff but this thread demonstrates that you’re at least trying to make things work, and that deserves recognition. Keep it up and I might even be a DCM again.

Quick general question on the subject of mod alerts - how much detail should we be putting in said alerts?

I've generally tried to keep them brief, if possible, but if I need to be putting more detail in it'd be good to know.

Up to you, really. If it's something specific buried in a massive post, then including details so we know what we're looking for is useful. Likewise, if it relates to something that has been ongoing in the thread, it's worth pointing that out.

In general, though, just whatever you feel conveys the issue at hand.

So, I think this is the best place for this; I got myself a suspension in the “movies immune to dislike”. I’m not vengeful or anything to the mods; clearly people were bothered by what I said. However, I’m standing by what I had said. My views are unchanged, and I am unapologetic. Weeks ago, I commented that I feel this site is no longer a place i feel that I want to be, and being considered “rude” because I appreciate keeping an artist’s vision “pure” and not having somebody new come in and crap all over that vision...I’m not sorry. Maybe I like things old fashioned, maybe I’m resistant to change. I realize I chose Ghostbusters to be the noose I hung myself with, but I would have stood the same ground for Pocahontas being changed to a man or Black Panther being changed to a white guy. And i would have done it with the same vehemence out of respect for the sanctity of history/vision. So again, no apologies on my part.

Where is this going? I’m making a public request to have my account closed out. This isn’t because I got a suspension. It’s not because I offended people. I don’t feel like a real part of this site anymore, and don’t feel like I’m getting what I want out of it anymore. I know that I’ll keep checking in if my account stays active. And I’d rather avoid that. So I’m asking for my account to be locked. I have enough going on in my life that I don’t need to trouble myself with being somewhere I don’t feel a part of. I’m not going to have a meltdown. I’m not going to mouth off. I stood my ground, and I’m making a request. I’d like you guys to honor that.

Dakka doesn't delete accounts. Too technically awkward. It would screw up the forum to delete significant numbers of posts.

I suppose the regular mod team could lock the account for you if that's what you want, but...you do know this website isn't a hotel, right? You don't actually need to check out. You can just...stop coming here.

You could also have someone else change your password so you can’t login.

You can also do it yourself by changing your password, writing down a gibberish password on a paper, then destroying the paper. I did that with a different forum.

I hear you. Sorry this isn’t the place for you, I’ve been in your shoes and you’ll find somewhere new to enjoy.

It can be given a ban or very long suspension. Long enough that I can’t post further. I know deleting accounts isn’t an option. But a ban or long-term, undisclosed suspension is. An open door gets walked through. I want this door locked.

You sure you need the door locked and don't just need to take a few weeks off-site to clear your mind.