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Pacific wrote: Damnit those grimdark forklifts are the coolest thing I will see today..
I love that the Reaver is overseeing the work too! No clocking off early for those guys
Now I just need a reaver overseer to get me to paint them
Doing a re-match against my buddy's legio fureans where we both run our warmaster heavy battle titans, 2500pts like last time. My list is pretty much the same with only one change, probably for the worse lol. I swapped out the acastus knight porphyrion for a banner of cerastus knight atrapos, first chance I've had to run them. They'll probably get lit up pretty quick, just hoping I can at least get a shot off with them to see how their concussive blast weapons do. Obviously my titans will have to soften stuff up for them first by dropping shields so who knows if I'll be able to tee that up or not. I had to find 5pts to take the atrapos banner so I dropped the plasma rifling on the warmaster and took ranging auspex instead. Nothing too special about it but it doesn't require any sorta reactor rolls, it's just an ability in the combat phase to pre-measure and check firing arc before declaring a target. Last game I made a few mistakes with ranges, mostly just not re-reading the weapons profile on the card so although I'll lose the abiltiy to push the reactor to get an extra 6 inches of short and long range, at least I won't be caught targeting or not targeting targets I "assume" are in range, no more assumptions required .
Gonna try and take lots of pics. I really wish it was an easier game to shoot a battle report of, but it's so back and forth it makes recording it really disruptive to playing it.
Surprising lessons from last game with warmasters: One thing we both noticed is that for our biggest game yet 2500pts, it didn't feel that much longer on account of the warmasters. They're very resilient, but both of ours really had to take a few turns to get into the mix and like with warlord these guys were really slow at doing that. It's not inconceivable to full stride them turn one but a lot of that comes down to deployment map and just how close the enemy could be turn one. With so much shooting on these guys it's hard to think too far ahead. They seem somewhat well balanced given that their only long range weapon is carapace mounted and unlike warlord it can't modify that with gyros to get 90 arc, it's stuck with corridor. And with the other 4 weapons having 90 arcs I found myself rarely thinking about it, at least not as much as I should. The one consideration though with warmasters is you really want to reach for the biggest los blockers you can. The amount of firepower its two main weapons can put out is considerable so to keep the game interesting and force some maneuvering you really need like 2-3 giant pieces minimum, even just big foam mountains work well for this. In our game we had a couple "butes" basically big desert mountains and at the center a massive necron pyramid. I feel this was crucial in keeping the game interesting/fair and meant it wasn't till about turn 3 onward that our warmasters were able to exchange fire with one another. I feel like the easiest diret solution for anyone right now is the carboard buildings from the hawk wargames citiyscape, just because they're the largest/cheapest option. I think it'd be interesting to see two sides rocking warmasters in a largely intact urban center. It may not scream grimdark but it would be cool to see.
Thoughts on warmaster and balance: It's not as bad as feared, but I have to examine in the context presented, which is both side had a warmaster and were fielding it. I think if that's the end goal it works pretty well, the other benefit intended or not is unlike adding a bunch of activations, even for the 1000+pts we were both paying its still just one activation, a lot of shooting in that activation but one all the same. The ancillary benefit is I could easily see us playing 2700 or even up to maybe 3000pts if we both have 1/3 or more of our points invested in a warmaster. I feel like that's an easier sell than playing 2500-3000pts without us both taking a wamaster, that would likely be a lot more activations and a higher chance for imbalance in activations. One core issue with titanicus and really any alternating activation is the whale tail of doom or one side having a lot of tail end activations because alternating activations starts to fall apart when one side runs out of things to activate. This can ofcourse occur naturally in a game where one side takes a heavy losses early on or the lists are very skewed like 3 warlord vs 5-7 reaver/warhounds. But anyway, the warlord can fit really well if there's enough pre game discussion with both players and an agreement to both run one, outside of that they fit a bit oddly. For example 1750-2000 seems to be sortof the average point scale for game, and a titan that comes in at like 1000-1120pts could be a bit of a spoiler, especially towards 1750 end of things. And I'm not saying that the player fileding the warmaster has any guaranteed advantage or anything, just that the disparity in activations can lead to a less than awesome game right out of the gate. I really hope we see more weapon options for the carapace and arms, if there is a nice range in point cost, effectiveness and or utility it could really help flesh these guys out. If there were bargain or cheap loadouts, like maybe cc short range options for less than 70pts an arm it could really make things interesting like fielding brawler warlords.
Custom Legio Traits:
Elite Magos, each titan can re-roll a single repair dice in the repair phase
Vanguard Fighters, warhounds get +1bs and can be issue first fire or full stride orders without making a command check as long as no other friendly titan is within 6 inches of them.
Custom Legio wargear:
Macro Charges, 3 inch blasts become 5 inches blasts and the weapon adds +1 strength, once damaged does +2S damage when detonated
Plasma Rifling, a titan with plasma rifling can push its reactor to increase both short and long range of the weapon by 6 inches
Board setup for the warmaster vs warmaster game. Really proud of this setup, decided to use a lot of destructible terrain so it's full of tiny little details and vehicles all over the place. I didn't manage to get the grimdark forklifts painted yet but still planning and painting the asap. So many details here, took more pics than normal. I managed to use all my grimdark train cars. Also used a lot of little terrain pieces by the lazy forger. Some of the new stuff managed to make it in too, really proud of the wrecked store with the crashed bomber. Also really like the statue ruin. Also like the toxic goo silo. Can't forget the ole' gas station and pritlove's erotic cakes
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Do you play 30k? It'd be a lot cooler if you did.
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus WIP *updated* New Board "Imperial City"
Pacific wrote: Wow.. that is simply outstanding. It must be an absolute joy to play on.
It was a lot of fun, probably the best game yet and I got my butt kicked. It was insane to see the difference between the board before the game and after it, just in terms of how many pieces of destructible terrain we pulled. Most of the ruins and cars were wrecked by either scattering blast weapons or titans just smashing through ruin after ruin. One of my poor warhounds took a bunch of leg damage from smashing through a few ruins. My buddy's princeps seniore's reaver just stormed through a bunch of ruins, like almost for fun lol, barely took a scratch
So here's pics of the big game, 2500pts warmaster vs warmaster. Took 50 pics!! The biggest thing to notice is the stark difference between the board before and after, lots of destruction.
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I got the grimdark terrain forklifts painted. These things are amazing, really reminds me of the big ones you see working the docks in real life. It's also nice to be able to use some yellow, not a common colour I tend to use.
I setup all the grimdark terrain stuff I have so far, the crates aren't grimdark but they're about the same size as the grimdark ones so they work well, the crates are plastic so they're pretty light. The only other gw bits are the crane tops and the gas cannister on the train and the barrel and little pipes on the end cap of the rail.
I also put some vanguard miniatures crew to each of the forklifts.
Also, little clip messing around with my buddy's tiger eyes.
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You might wanna replace everything in that picture with printed models. Build that fort, get your own little soldiers. DO IT NOW!!!!
I need to hire some space mormons STAT!
So here's the trailer for an upcoming psi titan vs psi titan game. Basically legio fureans are tasked with hunting down a corrupted titan "the king in yellow" and prevent the coastal raids that are part of some elaborate ritual. The reason for the psi titan vs psi titan is we're still waiting on rules for corrupted titans so it's sort of a stand in for now. There's a bunch of fluff and teasers in previous posts. Here's sort of a prologue from the perspective of the tiger eyes princeps of the corrupted warlord:
Wrote some fluff to better flesh things out, tl;dr a princeps convinces local savages to sacrifice themselves, promising them eternal access to the "palace of the gods". He's tricking them into a chaos ritual that will corrupt him and his warlord titan.
lil teaser trailer
“The palace of the gods awaits the faithful”
The princeps declared in high gothic, a self assured smile broke as the chorus of chanting built to fever pitch.
The assembled council of tribal elders greeted the princeps with a bow, five of them, their black sheer masks concealing their ritually tattoo’d faces.
The savages of Humardu we’re a deeply spiritual people, reverence for the gods and all manner of rituals worship taking up much of their society and daily lives. Their inability to distinguish technology from magic had been historically exploited for recruitment and replenishment of labour by the machanicum and imperium. Humardu’s hardy populace made ideal stock for soldiering or manufacturing.
Their gods were not his gods. The princeps didn’t care, their blood would soon fill the sea and the prophecy would be fulfilled. Their destruction would birth something new.
Deception was not unknown to him, but the legio’s combat doctrine was as direct and aggressive as their princeps and this subterfuge and attention to ritual was always a tiring affair, some part of the manifold in him stirred with impatience. He reassured himself he had not fully concealed the truth from these poor souls as they may yet still find themselves in the palace of some god, just not one of their own.
A guttural series of deep throat singing and distant unseen drumming grew steadily in intensity, the princeps could sense it would not be much longer, even across the vast sunlit bay the stars began to pulsate, the void quaked in recognition of what was to come. A strange sense he had been here before fell over the princeps as if remembering some half forgotten dream.
All five elders reached their arms to the heavens, the throat singing ceasing and the unseen drummers falling silent. They reached for a small pouch in their robes containing a flask of sacred oils. In unison they emptied the small flask of yellow liquid over their heads and proceeded to prostrate themselves before the princeps.
A small robed figure strode out from the mass of bodies and presented the princeps with a torch, the head of which had been fashioned to resemble the skull of some local predator. The robed figure spoke, it’s voice was young, sounding like a child.
“Ashgkar! Feysho! Kah-nashi ermasa otosh!”
“They impend, you must light the fire.”
The princeps had understood the tribal utterances, but pointed all the same to the prostrate and oil soaked elders arrayed before him and looked back to the short robed figure, as if unsure of his part in all of this.
The princeps stepped forward, his ceremonial white body glove backlit by the setting sun and he touched the torch to the oil at their feet.
“The palace of the gods” He declared mockingly as the he lit the last of the elders aflame.
The five men made no sound as their flesh burned. The princeps was genuinely impressed by this display, the pain must have been unimaginable he thought.
He lost himself in the flame, the elders bodies toppled over, he hadn’t even noticed crowd assembled around him had produced ceremonial blades and had slit their wrists. He only wrenched himself back into the moment when the masked crowd turned from their gaze on the pyre to look back towards the coast.
They had followed the specifications he had passed on to them perfectly, the edifice they stood on was built with a purpose and the blood running down from their wrists collected into the super structure and streamed down stone channels directly disgorging into the sea.
The water in the bay turned crimson, steadily reaching the the feet of the princeps warlord titan, the “King in Yellow” which stood like a silent guardian in the middle of the bay.
The princeps began to weep, the smile never leaving his face as he proceeded down the steps of the vast stone temple. Looking out at the bay he could see the silhouette of his engine, it’s white helm’s targeting optics were glowing with an unnatural red hue. He could somehow commune with the engine and this connection grew stronger.
The moment the princeps stepped into the frothing crimson sea, the king in yellow let out an ear splitting bellow of its war horns sending thousands of local avians flying into the air from coastal tree tops. The princeps strode out through the shallow water, his white bodyglove now thoroughly stained red. He reached out for the great engine, placing his hand firmly on its cold ceramite hull. The princeps could see the first of the crane ships coming in along the coast. In amazement, some of the cultists were still standing in their seemingly endless observance of the king in yellow.
He could see one of the crane ships securing its fasteners around a reaver titan back on land. The princeps personal shuttle now crept down the shoreline, halting in front of him and extended its boarding ramp into the water. A familiar face greeted him from the head of the ramp. It pointed to the princeps and back to the water.
“The prophecy said total immersion; I won’t remind you of the importance of this.”
The princeps rolled his eyes at the scolding and immersed himself entirely in the sea of red frothing liquid. Emerging once more totally stained he walked up the ramp, the front of which was already beginning to retract.
“Is it done?”
He walked past the familiar face without making eye contact. A noticeable silence was his reply.
“Well?” The princeps inquired again.
The scolding voice canted something in binary and plugged an unseen mechandrite from its robe into a port on the wall.
“The pattern is incomplete, pict data shows one star remains” It replied.
The princeps barked back “I’ve seen them with my own eyes, they’re pulsating, I can feel the king’s machine spirit from here, like I could interface with the manifold without hard plugs”
“That’s impossible!” The voice shriekd back.
The last cultist looked on in amazement as the vast crane ship swept in and started to cradle the warlord in its rigging. Its aspect being lifted out of the water and into the heavens was the last thing his eyes would ever see. A single tear ran down the cultists tattooed face, his frame toppling over on to the bodies a level below, his blade still firmly clutched in his hand.
The shape of a coffin ship was now visible on the horizon through the shuttle's main viewport. The princeps glanced back at the source of the scolding voice as if to predict the words it was about to speak.
“The last star is pulsating, the ritual is complete.”
The king in yellow’s war horns began to blare again as it was swallowed by the vast hold of the coffin ship.
The princeps turned and looked at the crane ship ahead of him disappear into the cavernous gantry of the coffin ships open hold, an excited grin filling his face.
“The Warmaster will be pleased.”
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Subject: Adeptus Titanicus WIP *updated* Trailer of Upcoming Psi Titan Game
Sherrypie wrote: Loving it. All wargaming benefits from proper setups, both terrain and scenario
Thanks guy, agreed 100%, makes it much more immersive
Had a productive afternoon and got some necron stalkers built. The biggest one will be a count as reaver, the one on the 60mm will be an acastus, it's still a bit too tall but obviously but I'd never draw los from higher than the legs. The one on the 50mm is a cerastus lancer and the last one on a 40mm is a questoris. I'm planning on building 2 count as warlord using triach stalkers, a warhound or two from canoptek spyders and possibly a warbringer nemesis from a canoptek doomstalker. Anyway, everything is 100% count as so there's no home rules or anything. Hopefully I can get the triarch stalkers to fit on warlord bases.
Going to try a Myrmidon Maniple, 2 warlord 1 reaver. It's special rule is any titan in the maniple can order split fire or first fire on a 2+.
Custom legio rules as traitors
Motive mastery lets the titans add 2 to the order rolls for full stride or charge. (this is exemplified by their tall stalky legs and high LD that necrons would have)
Plaything of the gods lets titans fix armour or criticals in each strategy phase. (literally living metal, super cool ability and very fluffy for crons)
Arnour spikes change smash attacks from D3 to D6. (lets the titans basically double their potential attacks if attempting to smash. Makes sense given all their big stalky legs)
Plasma rifling lets plasma or laser weapons gain 6 inches to their short and long range bands if the titan pushes the reactor. (Takes lasers from 32 to 38 inches and plasma from 24-30 inches, could make the difference for the fire support titans. I guess this could just be crons having better targetting tech.)
Anyway, everything is 100% count as so there's no home rules or anything. Hopefully I can get the triarch stalkers to fit on warlord bases.
Princeps Seniores Trait: Devoted servant of the machine (Lets the princeps add 1 to a single repair die when it repairs, this would seem to work both in the repair phase and for emergency repair orders, so basically the leader cron being a little better at fixing itself)
Wargear: Armour Spikes, Plasma Rifling
Warlord Apocalypse Missile Launchers
Mori Quake Cannon
Sunfury Plasma Annihilator