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 Gadzilla666 wrote:

New Possessed, Bikers, Warpsmith, some actual Chosen, and what looks like the return of LaTD. What's not to like?

Too many cultist things for my liking. I'd rather not have another Edition where the namesake of the Codex is sidelined in favour of mortals.
Oh yeah also the rumours says Squats as a thing and I can't stand Squats. I like nostalgia but that's too much nostalgia.

chaos0xomega wrote:
He was talking about 40k rules, not Kill Team rules.

no hint that there will be 40k rules for the KT teams as those are dedicated to that game (unless there are specific new rules for the KT Ork Kommandos in the Ork Dex)

 kodos wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
He was talking about 40k rules, not Kill Team rules.

no hint that there will be 40k rules for the KT teams as those are dedicated to that game (unless there are specific new rules for the KT Ork Kommandos in the Ork Dex)

From the Sisters vs Tau article:

"As well as being perfect for skirmish games in the far future, you’ll also be able to deploy both of these units in full games of Warhammer 40,000."

That's quite a bit more than a "hint".

 Gert wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

New Possessed, Bikers, Warpsmith, some actual Chosen, and what looks like the return of LaTD. What's not to like?

Too many cultist things for my liking. I'd rather not have another Edition where the namesake of the Codex is sidelined in favour of mortals.

The rumor was for releases...remember that Chaos Space Marines just had a fairly significant range revamp not long ago, focused basically entirely upon the namesakes of the Codex.

Oh yeah also the rumours says Squats as a thing and I can't stand Squats. I like nostalgia but that's too much nostalgia.

Not sure how I feel about this one.

I wonder if GW has an enormous Great Unclean One standee for their GenCon booth.

 Nurglitch wrote:
I wonder if GW has an enormous Great Unclean One standee for their GenCon booth.

They could use the giant plush Nurgling they used for the Tottenham Court Road grand reopening...

 Kanluwen wrote:

The rumor was for releases...remember that Chaos Space Marines just had a fairly significant range revamp not long ago, focused basically entirely upon the namesakes of the Codex.

I know it's just releases but 3 Editions of trash CSM (specifically the unit) doesn't get my hopes up.

Not sure how I feel about this one.

I'm just kind of sick of them. It's like the "Failbaddon the Armless" or "Plastic Aspect Warriors when?" jokes. I have a similar situation with 3.5 Edition, people keep talking about how great it is and I've developed a reflex of eye-rolling and sighing.

Well for those of us who've actually had their army SQUATTED, I find the possibility of them coming back pretty good.
Mentioned in 8th BRB, mentioned and teased in PA, 2 official minis(albeit Necromunda) & damn good looking Kharadrons(for all intents & purposes, Squats).

So I'll forgive those that haven't been squatted, they know not of which they speak.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
I'm not sure what I'm looking at with the Sisters?

Novitiates? But they're all wanting to be special leader units when they grow up? Do you really train specifically to be a Repentia Superior or Canoness?

The real question is, why is one training to be a repentia? Does she know she's gonna feth up badly in a few years?

Eviscerators were a canoness option for like...20 years before they got sent to legends in 8th.

The ocean theme of the new Underworlds season looks really nice but there's nothing aquatic about the two included warbands, and I'm surprised that they didn't hold back the Deepkin warband for this set.

Also, it feels like Underworlds is lacking a narrative mode of play, given that it has an ongoing story thats as interesting as Blackstone Fortress. And while they're at it, it would be nice to have a solo-monster pack for each season, bit like the Fomoroid Crusher featured on Warhammer Community. Bit sad they haven't followed it up with rules for the Mindstealer or Ogroid.

Very disappointed with the Kill Team rollout so far. The new starter set looks underwhelming compared to the previous edition's starters, but if its about...£75, it would go some way to make the game more accessable.

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
New Kill teams would look better, if they had helmeted or masked head options.
New Underwolds look sucky, but maybe I’m just salty I haven’t had the chance to buy Direchasm, Beastgrave and a few other warbands yet. Beastmen and Slaanesh warbands will sell separately, right? RIGHT?

Depends where you live in the world but Direchasm is still on sale at Wayland games with 20% discount(free p&p too!). The warbands weren't my bag but the whole set is growing on me and recommend it, if Wayland is an option.

SamusDrake wrote:

Depends where you live in the world but Direchasm is still on sale at Wayland games with 20% discount(free p&p too!). The warbands weren't my bag but the whole set is growing on me and recommend it, if Wayland is an option.

Direchasm and the accompanying warbands should be available until the starter set after Harrowdeep releases, at least according to the season schedule. It's Beastgrave and that block that goes out of print this year.

 kodos wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
He was talking about 40k rules, not Kill Team rules.

no hint that there will be 40k rules for the KT teams as those are dedicated to that game (unless there are specific new rules for the KT Ork Kommandos in the Ork Dex)

There are. It's a very awakward unit entry as you might imagine, similar to the mixed weapon Warcry Warbands. Guy with shoota, guy with slightly different shoota, etc.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Even after GW's description, I still don't get why you'd send novitiates to do kill team stuff, or why they'd be carrying a bunch of holy relics..?

Or why they'd be using auto-weapons for that matter.

I kind of assumed they were recovering relics, treasure hunts could be dangerous enough but also out of the way enough that it's a good test for a new recruit (of power skill and worthiness, should the Emperor allow a saint reveal their hidden relics to the team) but a waste of a battle line unit who have more strategically important things to do than a little bit of shooting and a lot of digging and reading.

Mid way through your haul, you get attacked? Well I'm sure the mace of St Roftus would love to smite some Xenos again.

 Gert wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Even after GW's description, I still don't get why you'd send novitiates to do kill team stuff, or why they'd be carrying a bunch of holy relics..?

Or why they'd be using auto-weapons for that matter.

Cos it's the Imperium, there are holy relics all over the place.

And yet Celestians, Seraphim etc. aren't running around with a bunch of them. Hmm...

There's even enough null rods to hand out to the work experience girls.

Predators and Centurions, now essentially Sisters versions of scouts, even so much as being an equivalent rank....

I like the models but the designers need to stop making Sisters just female first born marines in design, they could be something so much more interesting, the Orders Sabine who specialise in infiltration for example.

Tau path finders are fine, they really don't need a brand new kit, that would be a waste considering the original kit is not all that old, it would just be replacing for replacing sake.

Tau is a new kit too

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Tau is a new kit too

Is not just the pathfinder kit with an upgrade sprue?

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Tau is a new kit too

It’s the existing Pathfinders with an upgrade sprue, not a new kit.

I do like both units in this box, and we play with both armies. But the real take home from this reveal is how excited I am by next years chaos.

Nothing too spectacular so far. Guess theyre.saving.the big cannons.for the event per.se

The new Warzone seems to have been intended for the event, the instagram feed just posted it too early and thus the delay between the articles.

Instagram account often jumps the gun at such things eh

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Instagram account often jumps the gun at such things eh

Apparently it's difficult to get post scheduling / queuing working right with Insta, unlike FB, etc.

 kodos wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
He was talking about 40k rules, not Kill Team rules.

no hint that there will be 40k rules for the KT teams as those are dedicated to that game (unless there are specific new rules for the KT Ork Kommandos in the Ork Dex)

There are, in fact, specific new rules for the KT Ork Kommandos in the Ork dex.

Also, it feels like Underworlds is lacking a narrative mode of play, given that it has an ongoing story thats as interesting as Blackstone Fortress. And while they're at it, it would be nice to have a solo-monster pack for each season, bit like the Fomoroid Crusher featured on Warhammer Community. Bit sad they haven't followed it up with rules for the Mindstealer or Ogroid.

Only thing stopping me from getting into Underworlds at this point is that I missed the first season and a half of stuff before it all suddenly went OOP. I'm a completionist, so the hurdles and obstacles GW has erected in the way of me completing the collection of cards and game content has made me completely uninterested in investing funds into any of those products.


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beast_gts wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Instagram account often jumps the gun at such things eh

Apparently it's difficult to get post scheduling / queuing working right with Insta, unlike FB, etc.

Its a general hassle, from experience the various post scheduling apps out there very easily got knocked out of whack/off schedule whenever the devs roll out an app update. its not uncommon for posts to be un-scheduled, re-scheduled, entirely cancelled, etc. (seemingly at random) as a result.

Curious how the pricing is going to work out for these expansions?

Assuming they don't include the full rule book, the measuring gauges, dice etc.

SoB unit = $60
Tau unit = $38 currently, but assume upgrade sprue bumps it to $45 a la Cadians.
Terrain = $130, assuming that's an entire box of Sector Imperalis terrain?

So $235 of models, for $199? Or does this inherit the $165 Command Edition price point?

Thoughts?

 clodax66 wrote:
So far that rumours seams to be spot on. That makes me happy as an Eldar player, since there is suppose to be massive Eldar release next year according to the rumour along with a massive CSM release. They also said we are getting squats and that made suspicious of that rumour, but now looks we are getting squats. I am not sure in what format. whether it's a full army of just a kill team

Not a killjoy, but the leak didn't said anything new besides the Codex.

It's a launch box, not a standard range item.

Meaning the "discount" can be higher.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Nurglitch wrote:
I wonder if GW has an enormous Great Unclean One standee for their GenCon booth.

They could use the giant plush Nurgling they used for the Tottenham Court Road grand reopening...

Spoiler:

I remember certain anti-GW dedicating an entire monetizable YouTube video telling how wrong Nurgling plushies are because they are actually mean in the fluff. Hilarious sutff.

 CMLR wrote:

 clodax66 wrote:
So far that rumours seams to be spot on. That makes me happy as an Eldar player, since there is suppose to be massive Eldar release next year according to the rumour along with a massive CSM release. They also said we are getting squats and that made suspicious of that rumour, but now looks we are getting squats. I am not sure in what format. whether it's a full army of just a kill team

Not a killjoy, but the leak didn't said anything new besides the Codex.

‘A massive, but incomplete, update of Eldar’

 flaherty wrote:
Curious how the pricing is going to work out for these expansions?

Assuming they don't include the full rule book, the measuring gauges, dice etc.

SoB unit = $60
Tau unit = $38 currently, but assume upgrade sprue bumps it to $45 a la Cadians.
Terrain = $130, assuming that's an entire box of Sector Imperalis terrain?

So $235 of models, for $199? Or does this inherit the $165 Command Edition price point?

Thoughts?

Terrain looks like 2 sprues of walls, 2 sprues of floors, 2 sets of ruins, and the gateway sprue. Glad to see that make a return.

Sisters are probably a unit similar to the kommandoes. Leader with options, 9 troops with sword and auto pistol. Then 1 per 10 can take x, 1 per 10 can take y, one per 10 can take z, ect. The options are there to make the various types of specialists, and the box art is going to show off all of the options, giving a disjointed loadout if you take one of everything, even if it is allowed by rules.