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So it happened that my opponent (I guess it could be called) "misfired" a Shokk Attack Gun and his Mek ended up in close combat with my Eldar Guardians on his first turn. So here is the simple question and our sensible (and presumably wrong due to mixing common sense with a GW game) ruling. I found a thread containing all the Ork codex questions but requested no answers be posted so I am asking what people think.

Are the Mek and Guardians considered locked in combat so no more Ork units may fire on them that shooting phase?

Our answer was that they were locked and safe from further shooting that turn.


Thanks for reading and your thoughts in advance.

Short answer: you were right.

Longer answer: look at the definitions in the Assault Phase section for what constitutes being locked. Did the unit satisfy the conditions? (Yes.)

The moral of the story being, I believe, think carefully about the order in which you resolve shooting.

Yep. Saving the shokk is a good idea simply because it is ordinance, let alone the fact that you might end up in combat with whatever you are shooting. Consequently I always give my shooty mek a PK just incase.

I have to disagree. Out of all the possible misfires, the only one that becomes worse when you fire the SAG first is, well, this one. I would still always shoot the SAG first; it uses a marker and thus benefits from having the most targets in the area when it goes off. It also lets you compensate for a bad shot by directing more firepower at the intended target.

Yes but firing it after your AT gives you the option of taking a chance at a vehicle if all else fails. It also depends heavily on what targets the SAG has at the time.

On a side note, I finally rolled boxcars on my SAG and wiped out an entire raptor squad. Kinda makes up for all the times he's killed himself.

True. It does depend on the circumstances.

It's always awesome when that happens, isn't it? (But not for me--I'm the guy staring down the barrel and cursing the loss of my Falcon-full of Harlies.) Not exactly something you can plan for, though.

wait if your in combat then your in combat. No shooting at people in combat.

Props on that shot dakkalad. I'm still waiitng for those sweet sweet boxcars...

I was shooting at a warhound when I got my only boxcars. Should have had something else take out the void shield first...

I was shooting at a warhound when I got my only boxcars. Should have had something else take out the void shield first...

Forgive my ignorance of apocalypse rules, but wouldn't box cars remove any model, period? I don't think void shields would matter, would it? Again, not familair with most of apocalypse rules.

Any model is removed yes, but only if they aren't vehicles. Vehicles take an automatic penetration.