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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/28 00:28:17
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Implacable Black Templar Initiate
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We were talking about this a while back and we still have'nt decided what should happen...
A vortex grenade is thrown and swallows up a objective, this repeats on other objectives. So what happens
(a) You forget about the objective and continue on with the game.
(b) A much more amusing way try to follow and control the new objective while trying to avoid the death and destruction it produces
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I don't expect you to die a meaningless death I expect you to die for the emperor now CHARGE
You know what we do to liars Petty
No wait I'm not ARGHHH
We kick em in the balls
Brother octavius ''open up on the genestealers''
Brother there are rippers closing in on the right RIPPERS''
"there only 3 of them"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/28 02:44:37
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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The "objective" is just a marker, not a model or a piece of terrain (though it may be convenient and/or look cool to model it as such). It should not be removed in the first place.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/28 12:12:51
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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That kinda diminishes the fun of it. My group is having fun remembering the joys of RT and 2nd ed when the VG would often romp around the table, eating troops, vehicles, terrain and passing small children. The fun part was trying to stay out of its way, and hoping it didn't 'breed' (split into two vortices which then continued on).
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/28 15:33:33
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Dakka Veteran
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Cheexsta has it right. it stops the game getting complicated.
But, if you want objectives to be swallowed, play that who ever has the most models/units sucked into the template over the game counts as having captured it. Puts a new spin on things, although not sure if it'd be worth the loss...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/28 15:55:36
Subject: Re:Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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Speaking of that, I recently had a small-ish Apoc game where the objective was to drive/run into a portal. Whoever had the most stuff in the portal won... but of course, you lost that unit from the game. It was an interesting balance between running in and fighting back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/29 19:49:27
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Dakka Veteran
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Oh boy, I bet that turned ugly by the end of the game, not to mention wierd
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"To be truely evil you must acknowledge the right thing to do in a situation, and then do completely the oposite" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/30 03:10:46
Subject: Re:Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
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We usually put objectives on terrain pieces, so if the vortex swallows the terrain the objective is gone, too. We usually have a vortex grenade in each army, so there's two bouncing around. Apoc is all about crazy stuff. Makes it fun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/30 03:22:28
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's funny when one of those Bad-Boys Clips a Titan's foot.
"Towering Monstrosity" indeed...........................lol
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"Dakkanaut" not "Dakkaite"
Only with Minatures, does size matter...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/30 18:49:21
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Dakka Veteran
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if I remember correctly, (from rumours mostly) weren't Vortex grenades around in one of the Early editions of the rules? if so imagine what normal battles would have been like with them in!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/30 18:51:58
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Charging Wild Rider
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THey were, but even more fun was a Stasis Grenade. If your opponents objective was to kill the character that had the grenade, you could just have him drop it at his feet. A Stasis grenade created an area where nothing could move in or out and weapons could not be shot into the area......
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And so, due to rising costs of maintaining the Golden Throne, the Emperor's finest accountants spoke to the Demigurg. A deal was forged in blood and extensive paperwork for a sub-prime mortgage with a 5/1 ARM on the Imperial Palace. And lo, in the following years the housing market did tumble and the rate skyrocketed leaving the Emperor's coffers bare. A dark time has begun for the Imperium, the tithes can not keep up with the balloon payments and the Imperial Palace and its contents, including the Golden Throne, have fallen into foreclosure. With an impending auction on the horizon mankind holds its breath as it waits to see who will gain possession of the corpse-god and thus, the fate of humanity...... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/30 18:52:29
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Dakka Veteran
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Ok...seems a bit pointless
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/30 18:54:01
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Charging Wild Rider
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By having your character drop the Stasis Grenade, he couldn't be hurt by the enemy, therefore your opponent loses.
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And so, due to rising costs of maintaining the Golden Throne, the Emperor's finest accountants spoke to the Demigurg. A deal was forged in blood and extensive paperwork for a sub-prime mortgage with a 5/1 ARM on the Imperial Palace. And lo, in the following years the housing market did tumble and the rate skyrocketed leaving the Emperor's coffers bare. A dark time has begun for the Imperium, the tithes can not keep up with the balloon payments and the Imperial Palace and its contents, including the Golden Throne, have fallen into foreclosure. With an impending auction on the horizon mankind holds its breath as it waits to see who will gain possession of the corpse-god and thus, the fate of humanity...... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/30 18:55:32
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Dakka Veteran
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true, but seems to be an unfair advantage. Could psycic attacks hurt him, because technically there not weapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/30 18:56:43
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Charging Wild Rider
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Well, there were alot of things in 2nd Ed that were unfair, the virus bomb strategy card for example...
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And so, due to rising costs of maintaining the Golden Throne, the Emperor's finest accountants spoke to the Demigurg. A deal was forged in blood and extensive paperwork for a sub-prime mortgage with a 5/1 ARM on the Imperial Palace. And lo, in the following years the housing market did tumble and the rate skyrocketed leaving the Emperor's coffers bare. A dark time has begun for the Imperium, the tithes can not keep up with the balloon payments and the Imperial Palace and its contents, including the Golden Throne, have fallen into foreclosure. With an impending auction on the horizon mankind holds its breath as it waits to see who will gain possession of the corpse-god and thus, the fate of humanity...... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/30 18:58:01
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Dakka Veteran
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That sound like an apocalypse idea if there ever was one. I assume it works like the Horus Heresy Novels depect it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/31 03:17:52
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Yeah, pretty much.
Any army not in 'sealed' armour as pretty much dead.
Eldar aspect armour was 'sealed' as is PA/TDA.
It was pretty much a turn one win for the virus bomb player. There were toxins for eldar, humans, genestealers (tyranids didn't really have an army force), orks, etc, so you could tailor it to your opponent.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/05/31 16:05:11
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Dakka Veteran
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Sound like a boring way to play-may as well just say "I've got a Virus bomb, lets not bother playing"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/06/02 02:11:00
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Oh, there were more boring things than merely virus bombs (which were bad enough). We had nukes back in RT as well.
Two overwatching armies, for example. 6 turns of two armies having a staring match.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/06/02 02:39:30
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Charging Wild Rider
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Many gaming groups banned several of the strategy cards...
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And so, due to rising costs of maintaining the Golden Throne, the Emperor's finest accountants spoke to the Demigurg. A deal was forged in blood and extensive paperwork for a sub-prime mortgage with a 5/1 ARM on the Imperial Palace. And lo, in the following years the housing market did tumble and the rate skyrocketed leaving the Emperor's coffers bare. A dark time has begun for the Imperium, the tithes can not keep up with the balloon payments and the Imperial Palace and its contents, including the Golden Throne, have fallen into foreclosure. With an impending auction on the horizon mankind holds its breath as it waits to see who will gain possession of the corpse-god and thus, the fate of humanity...... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/06/02 16:16:49
Subject: Apoc Vortex Grenade
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Dakka Veteran
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Don't think I can blame them after what I've heard. However I think I might try to resurect one or two for friendly apocalypse game I've got coming up
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