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Made in ca
Man O' War




Canada

Have played this list successfully a couple of times but I am stepping up to some more potent competition my next time out and wondered if there were any areas that I could tweak to become more efficient or any armies that you all think will give this army problems. thanks for the look


1 Templar Grand Master @ 235 Pts
General; Lance; Full Plate Armor; Shield; Immune to Psychology
1 Warhorse @ [0] Pts
1 Sword of Sigismund @ [45] Pts
1 Holy Relic @ [45] Pts

1 Warrior Priest @ 150 Pts
Prayers of Sigmar; Barding; Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour; Shield
1 Warhorse @ [0] Pts
1 Sword of Might @ [15] Pts
1 Icon of Magnus @ [25] Pts

1 Warrior Priest @ 160 Pts
Prayers of Sigmar; Barding; Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour; Shield
1 Warhorse @ [0] Pts
1 Sword of Battle @ [15] Pts
1 The Silver Horn @ [35] Pts


1 Battle Wizard @ 129 Pts
Barding; Hand Weapon
1 Warhorse @ [0] Pts
1 Dispel Scroll @ [25] Pts
1 Dispel Scroll @ [25] Pts

6 Knightly Orders @ 146 Pts
Musician Mus; Barding; Hand Weapon; Lance & Shield (x6); Full Plate Armor
6 Warhorse @ [0] Pts

5 Knightly Orders @ 162 Pts
Musician Mus; Barding; Hand Weapon; Lance & Shield (x5); Full Plate Armor
1 Preceptor @ [39] Pts
Hand Weapon; Lance; Full Plate Armor; Shield
6 Warhorse @ [0] Pts

6 Knightly Orders @ 201 Pts
Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Barding; Hand Weapon; Lance & Shield (x6); Full Plate Armor
1 Preceptor @ [39] Pts
Hand Weapon; Lance; Full Plate Armor; Shield
7 Warhorse @ [0] Pts

6 Knightly Orders @ 226 Pts
Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Barding; Hand Weapon; Lance & Shield (x6); Full Plate Armor
1 Preceptor @ [39] Pts
Hand Weapon; Lance; Full Plate Armor; Shield
1 War Banner @ [25] Pts
7 Warhorse @ [0] Pts

Pistoliers (6#, 115 Pts)
6 Pistoliers @ 115 Pts Musician


1 Mortar @ 75 Pts
Mortar 3 Crew

1 Great Cannon @ 100 Pts
Cannon 3 Crew

1 Steam Tank @ 300 Pts
1 Engineer Commander Repeater Pistol

Total Roster Cost: 1999

TGM and priest with out the icon go together with war banner unit
Other priest and Wizard go into other full command unit

2 knight units plus pistoliers to bait and flee or warmachine/lone wizard hunt

Stank usually rolls towards the hardest unit, cannon snipes and mortar is for hordes

only 5 dispel dice and 2 scrolls but not sure where to get more
TGM stays because I don't have a Popemobile

If I could get my hands on one I'd drop the mortar and the preceptor from one unit of knights and get the lector on altar with AMI, SWoSIG and VHS makes 1998 with 7 DD

Thoughts?

PapaSmurf

Life moves pretty fast,
If you don't stop and look around once and a while,
you might miss it - Ferris Bueller 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut



Painesville, Ohio, USA

Papa Smurf,

Okay, sorry about not reviewing this, I promise next time I will. I've only got a couple of quick comments.

1) I've never been fond of splitting artillery braces. I'm always one to pair up cannon or mortars. I'd suggest either using a second mortar (for template goodness), or a second cannon... though you do have an additional cannon in the steam tank.

2) Your cannon and mortar have zero screen. You might want to consider getting a few handgunners to act as a speed bump. Or, if your group allows mercenaries, a block of 12 dwavers with heavy armor, sheild, crossbow, and full command does a great job of protecting your artillery.

3) If your game allows it, go for the Galloper Gun. Its mobility would greatly complement your knight units. Nothing says awesomeness like an enfulade shot from the Galloper Gun... and with it's base 8" movement, your opponent has to send a more-mobile unit against it... else you just play "Can't-catch-me-I'm-the-gingerbread-man" all day.

4) I can't tell because of how AB does the list, but did you get a 7-strong list of Inner Circle Knights? As was shown to me ICKs work best as smaller squads (5 - 6 sized, including any characters.) Otherwise, you're payign for an ability you're not using.

5) Lacking the War Altar, or a second tank, you might want to consider dropping the steam tank. With the points, you could get a second cannon, a second unit of pistoliers, and a pair of Outridder champions for those pistoliers.

6) With the low-side of anti-magic, you might want to go a bit more risky and get the Seal of Distruction. You'll have to sacrifice a dispell scroll for it, but it gives you that 50-50 chance of flat out removing a spell from the game. It even gives you a chance to destroy bound-spell items too.

7) I know you say the Templar Grand Masters stays, but you might want to consider swapping him for an Elector Count, and saving some serious points. Same LD, so just about the same "immunity to psychology" effect, but, more importantly, it'll let you get a second magic banner for your army.

With your lowish anti-magic, you could get the Banner of Arcane Warding. Or, you could enhance your smaller knight units with the Steel Standard, giving them a bit more reach for their flank charges.

Anyway, just some quick thoughts.
   
Made in ca
Man O' War




Canada

Ok made some changes to the list, pretty minor I think but see what you think

Templar Grand Master (240)
Full Plate Shield BWH Sword of Sigismund Shroud of Magnus

Warrior Priest (150)
Heavy Armour Shield BWH Sword of Might Icon of Magnus

Warrior Priest (141)
Heavy Armour Shield BWH Sword of Battle VHS

Battle Wizard (129)
BWH 2 x Scroll

5 x Knights (123)
Full Plate Shield Lance HW Musician

6 x Knights (162)
Full Plate Shield Lance HW Musician Preceptor

6 x Knights (162)
Full Plate Shield Lance HW Musician Preceptor

6 x Knights (178)
Full Plate Shield Lance HW Full Command

6 x IC Knights (221)
Full Plate Shield Lance HW Full Command War Banner

6 x Pistoliers (115)
Light Armor WH HW Brace of Pistols Musician

Mortar (75)
3 crew HW

Steam Tank (300)
Cannon Steam Gun Master Engineer w Repeater Pistol

Total 1996

5 DD + 2 Scrolls
1 spell + 2 Prayers

Lost the cannon because I'm just more accurate with the mortar. Used Shroud rather than relic to give more magic defense and the ubiquitous VHS for character killing

Please let me know what you think
Thanks

PapaSmurf

Life moves pretty fast,
If you don't stop and look around once and a while,
you might miss it - Ferris Bueller 
   
 
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