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EXCITED!

It's going to be interesting to see a "Q" style episode and time travel spread out over multiple episodes like that.

I also generally like Q time-travel episodes when they've happened in the past because they tend to have a lasting lesson effect on the characters, but at the same time things mostly end as they began, so we don't see "Oh and now we are in a new continuity" type situation.

So I'm optimistic!

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Region blocked for me. I saw some screen shots earlier though of a tri-nacelle ship with the third popping out apparently when needed like a cartoon fast and furious boost.
   
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 warboss wrote:
Region blocked for me. I saw some screen shots earlier though of a tri-nacelle ship with the third popping out apparently when needed like a cartoon fast and furious boost.


didn't the future enterprise from next gen have that, or was that just to carry the increasingly sturdy Riker

although still of the mind they've been winging since ds9 ended

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 Turnip Jedi wrote:
 warboss wrote:
Region blocked for me. I saw some screen shots earlier though of a tri-nacelle ship with the third popping out apparently when needed like a cartoon fast and furious boost.


didn't the future enterprise from next gen have that, or was that just to carry the increasingly sturdy Riker


Haha like the Riker comment.. Yes I think that's the one that turns up from the future in All Good Things isn't it?

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 warboss wrote:
Region blocked for me. I saw some screen shots earlier though of a tri-nacelle ship with the third popping out apparently when needed like a cartoon fast and furious boost.


Sadly, that fits the MO of the Voyager-era Starship Design Bureau. Thinking mainly of the Prometheus, but even Voyager had Kung Fu nacelle action.

Still, it’s nice that they’re getting closer and closer to Red Letter Media’s Picard “pitch”.

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 Pacific wrote:
 Turnip Jedi wrote:
 warboss wrote:
Region blocked for me. I saw some screen shots earlier though of a tri-nacelle ship with the third popping out apparently when needed like a cartoon fast and furious boost.


didn't the future enterprise from next gen have that, or was that just to carry the increasingly sturdy Riker


Haha like the Riker comment.. Yes I think that's the one that turns up from the future in All Good Things isn't it?


Yeah, the Galaxy X had the third nacelle (and spinal megasuperduper phaser pachow! dorsal mount) but I don't recall it having the ability to retract. It was figuratively and literally (in the case of the model, lol) just glued on. The closest comparison would be the mini-Me tiny nacelle on the Prometheus when it separates into three ships but that was just to maintain warp and not boost/increase speed.


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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
 warboss wrote:
Region blocked for me. I saw some screen shots earlier though of a tri-nacelle ship with the third popping out apparently when needed like a cartoon fast and furious boost.


Sadly, that fits the MO of the Voyager-era Starship Design Bureau. Thinking mainly of the Prometheus, but even Voyager had Kung Fu nacelle action.


That's what I thought as well. With the Janeway AI (JanewAIy?), I'm guessing that was a nod to the variable position nacelles of the Voyager or maybe a further progression of it. It's a bit too fast and furious nitrous for me personally but I'll admit that the look is cool and it's on an animated show aimed for kids so I have no issue with it. Questionable stuff like fidget spinning instantaneous galaxy traversing mushroom engines and such should be tested in programs like this.

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Hmm Q - excellent, although the whole trial stuff is tiresome nonsense, I much prefer Q when he is just playing......

So a not quite mirror universe....ok. I guess. Would have been interesting to see Mirror Q.

Always amusing to have a deadline when you are Time Travelling....

I'll be happy if they just keep F^&*^&%ing Burnham out of it.

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Not excited in the least by the Picard trailer. I can wait a year or two to catch up on the cringe with a free trial.

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I liked this weeks Lower Decks, showing the crews from the different aliens. It was a nice touch, and still helped move along the season’s overarching storyline. I do like how the episodes are like 90% slice of life, but still fit in that 10% long storyline and world building.

 
   
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Might sound odd, but the most fun I've had watching Trek recently has been the 1970's animated series.

It followed on nicely from TOS, the plots became a lot more highbrow and involved with a lot of stuff that could be animated but couldn't be done live-action at the time.

It also does a better job of worldbuilding the federation as some episodes deal with the enterprise escorting a grain supply ship or dealing with corrupt planetary governors, more of the internal politics of the federation gets laid out, a theme which TOS continued.

Even the episode where there's a planet full of amazon women subverts the trope very well by showing exactly how capable Captain Uhura would be.

Having the original cast voice acting kept the character continuity and they even develop the characters a bit.

The cat lady who speaks in purrs is also great!

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Just starting to watch Lower Decks now. Just glad to see the hardcore bajoran security chief back! Wonder how he did it?

 
   
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 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Just starting to watch Lower Decks now. Just glad to see the hardcore bajoran security chief back! Wonder how he did it?


You can’t ask about that!

 
   
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LD has had quite a few callbacks to TAS over its episodes.

The doc, T'ana is of the same species as M'ress from TAS (Caitian).
There was an Edoan (three armed and legged alien helmsman from TAS) in S1.

The episode with the crew having to catalog the collection of a dead collector was filled to the brim with them - the giant skull was that of giant Spock clone from the TAS episode "The infinite vulcan".

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I really wish I could enjoy Lower Decks, but I just loathe the animation style. Even the show’s thumbnail annoys me on a level which is completely irrational.

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The first season was a bit rushed/rough feeling around the edges. Second season feels more like they've settled into a comfortable groove with the characters and what they are attempting to do.

There's a little bit less of that feeling of "we've got to machine-gun puns at at them"

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 Mr Morden wrote:
Hmm Q - excellent, although the whole trial stuff is tiresome nonsense,


On the other hand, after the mess of the first season, Q was absolutely right to have humanity on trial, and can feel free to render judgement knowing the nu-Federation justified his belief that humans are indeed a backwards and savage race. Revisiting the Trial makes all sorts of sense.

Time Travel, not so much. Plot holes and post-hoc paradox-fixed justifications ahoy!

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Q is great for time travel, paradox's and all that kind of stuff because at the end he can click his fingers and its all "mostly sort of" undone.

He's a great way to mess with things and have fun and in the end the story returns to nearly normal and continues on.

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Voss wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Hmm Q - excellent, although the whole trial stuff is tiresome nonsense,


On the other hand, after the mess of the first season, Q was absolutely right to have humanity on trial, and can feel free to render judgement knowing the nu-Federation justified his belief that humans are indeed a backwards and savage race. Revisiting the Trial makes all sorts of sense.


Compared to who? The trial was awful rubbish (IMO) - he is much better as a bored god....

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Well that was a fairly serious episode of Lower Decks. Still some good jokes, and I loved the Beluga crew members, nice reference there.

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
I liked this weeks Lower Decks, showing the crews from the different aliens. It was a nice touch, and still helped move along the season’s overarching storyline. I do like how the episodes are like 90% slice of life, but still fit in that 10% long storyline and world building.


So I do watch lower decks despite it being entirely silly and really if it wasn't for the ST amusement factor it would be pretty trash, but when they cut to the Borg lower desks I couldn't help but laugh out loud uncontrollably
   
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Oh! Last weeks episode was the season finale. I wouldn’t have expected that kind of cliffhanger to be the finale anymore. Looks like they’re already recording the third season though so yay.

 
   
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On Lower Decks, and because I’m always open to challenging first impressions?

Can anyone offer a top three “this is proper Trek*” episodes of their choosing?

Don’t need to know why, as I’ll just sort of watch them. I can’t promise I’ll get past my immediate distaste for the art style, but I’ll give it a try all the same.

*no I am not going to define Proper Trek, because that seems counter productive.


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It’s hard for me to personally define proper Star Trek, not to mention a generally poor memory to think back to specific examples, but I would definitely say this second season finale is right proper Trek. The problem would be skipping straight to that glosses over a lot of character growth and development and relationships. In general I think the whole series is a good Trek show, the characters just aren’t so hyper competent at their jobs like you get on previous series. It’s a lot like Orville in a sense, where they’re… less sterile? Plus if you’re a big Star Trek fan the show is packed to the gills with callbacks and Easter eggs. It was pointed out that the guest captain in this finale was an ensign who spilled hot chocolate on Picard in Next Gen season two.

 
   
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Yeah that's my feeling too. Whilst its not a strong story based series, there is continuity and themes that run through it and some of the in-jokes and such will just seem very out of place or random if you skip episodes.


I wasn't the biggest fan of the first season, it was ok but felt rush/hurried and kinda like it didn't know what it was doing. The second season is much improved. Also whilst its clearly a "Spoof" series and thus has no impact on the "actual" ST continuity it kind of feels like the writers have more of a grasp of classic trek than many of the modern ones (they even poke some big jabs at that in one episode).

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There's a horde of clips of this show hitting YouTube, and they have me curious because the show does seem much more Trek (paradoxically) than the current live-action series to me.

It almost looks like Backett Mariner is a direct jab at Michael Burnham's absurd hyper-competency/always right even when she's wrong/mary-suish. She even looks like Burnham a bit and has a similar personality, except she's in a gag series so the absurdities of the character feel funnier than groan-worthy. Is this a thing anyone writing Lower Deck's has commented on?

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The writing in general is loose/casual fun and they most certainly do poke jabs at current Trek issues.

I've not seen any specific to Burnham but I've also not seen that Trek so chances are any of those references would go right over my head.


The first season was very much "pick a thing to gripe at all episode" whilst he second season is a bit more controlled and part of that is a bit more character in each of the characters and such. There's also one or two very long running slow burn storylines mixed in there.



That said they also poke fun at ALL of Trek. From odd things in Original series all the way through to the modern so its not a singular trope.

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Checked out the first episode of the new Prodigy series. Definitely a for kids style show, as one would expect from it. They get more creative with the aliens since it’s all cgi, didn’t recognize a single species other than the most obvious one really except for the cat and I think the ship captain. It does not get feel at all Star Trek. Other than the fact it’s a Star Fleet ship they find there’s nothing to tie it in, just kind of random aliens and kids show. Course this is just the first episode to establish the story, so who knows how it develops.

 
   
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If anyone's interested, they've done a U-turn on the international release of Disco S4.

While it won't be available on Netflix, they are making it available on other platforms, you'll need to see which for you country.

In the UK, for instance, they've gone for Pluto, which is a subscription free, sign up free, ad supported channel available as an app. It's actually playing live as I type this.

Broadly positive, although Pluto is a clunky thing to use, at least it supports casting and it looks like streams in at least HD.

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