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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 McMagnus Mindbullets wrote:
oooo interesting. The true phase out of the green rod.

Good riddance!


What? The grooves to put the green rods are still there. He said the old destroyer sets aren't going away.


Yep, but if you look under the main body halves there's four clear grey rods. Seems odd to rework the kit and just have plain rods like that. Then again I guess it was easy for them to modify the existing mould that way. Still if they were going to modify it surely they could have added detailed rods not just a blank slate rod. Still be interesting to see when those kits phase into general sales and such and where that photo comes from to get an idea. It's also odd GW would do this "on the quiet"

   
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I really dislike all these hoses attached to the back/body and then into the arms. It makes everything monopose without some heavy conversion with drills and guitar strings.


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 MoonlightSonata wrote:
So it looks like the old destroyer kits won't be going anywhere:
Spoiler:


I'm no expert on Necrons, but isn't that the Heavy Destroyer kit?

And didn't they do the plastic rod bits awhile back anyways? I could have swore some of the stuff got the green rods removed.

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The heavy destroyer kit was a metal upgrade kit, then it became an impossibly bad finecast kit. I think its being replaced wholesale by the new Lokhust Heavy Destroyer model. Because the destroyer lord upgrade kit was similarly terrible finecast crap I think a new Lokhust Lord model will be revealed sooner or later.

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Right behind you.

Fair enough then!
   
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Florence, KY

 MoonlightSonata wrote:
So it looks like the old destroyer kits won't be going anywhere:
Spoiler:


The rods don't even look like those found on the Gauss Flayers that Warriors carry and doesn't take into consideration the finecast bits needed for the Lord. This very much looks like a stopgap measure to me and while we may not get a new Lokhust Destroyer/Lokhust Destroyer Lord kit in October, I wouldn't be surprised to see one sometime next year.

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cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Good to know that the regular Destroyers are not going anywhere. Fingers crossed for Extermination Protocols to survive the Codex transition.

Also lol at today's preview... they even felt the need to put serious in italics for the Heavy Lokhust weapons. Ah rofl.

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 MoonlightSonata wrote:
So it looks like the old destroyer kits won't be going anywhere:
Spoiler:



I'm quite happy about that, I really like those models. I liked the Heavy Destroyer model more though, I'm hoping those don't disappear.

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on the forum. Obviously

 Overread wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 McMagnus Mindbullets wrote:
oooo interesting. The true phase out of the green rod.

Good riddance!


What? The grooves to put the green rods are still there. He said the old destroyer sets aren't going away.


Yep, but if you look under the main body halves there's four clear grey rods. Seems odd to rework the kit and just have plain rods like that. Then again I guess it was easy for them to modify the existing mould that way. Still if they were going to modify it surely they could have added detailed rods not just a blank slate rod. Still be interesting to see when those kits phase into general sales and such and where that photo comes from to get an idea. It's also odd GW would do this "on the quiet"


Huh, so there is, I thought it was part of the sprue itself. Odd how they would go for that instead of a more detailed design like on the other new gauss weapons. I guess they wanted to cut corners.


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 Kanluwen wrote:
 MoonlightSonata wrote:
So it looks like the old destroyer kits won't be going anywhere:
Spoiler:


I'm no expert on Necrons, but isn't that the Heavy Destroyer kit?

And didn't they do the plastic rod bits awhile back anyways? I could have swore some of the stuff got the green rods removed.


Nah, its the standard destroyer kit.
The weapon on the sprue is a gauss cannon. Heavy Gauss Cannons are much longer.

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 p5freak wrote:
We are getting new anti armour units, and a new core rules comes, which strengthtens infantry. Are those destroyers going to be useless, because there will be no more vehicles ?


Anti-armor works great on gravis.

   
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I agree, I've seen that image of an "official" destroyer a few times and think its not real or a stop gap. If we have that there where is the new box art and statine for the model. Feels very fake to me

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 Aza'Gorod wrote:
I agree, I've seen that image of an "official" destroyer a few times and think its not real or a stop gap. If we have that there where is the new box art and statine for the model. Feels very fake to me

Necron Destroyers are 'Direct Only' in the online store and therefore would come in a white box.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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 BroodSpawn wrote:
Where do you get the 'no more vehicles' idea from?


Did you read the WHC article about core units ? If vehicles dont get rerolls from HQs they wont be played.
   
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 p5freak wrote:
 BroodSpawn wrote:
Where do you get the 'no more vehicles' idea from?


Did you read the WHC article about core units ? If vehicles dont get rerolls from HQs they wont be played.


I'm sure they'll be played, although yeah you'll see less of them. I can think of a few Marine tanks that, assuming they're priced compeitivly could be useful, the whirlwind tank comes to mind (indirect fire support could have it's uses) but we certainly won't be seeing armor lists from marines

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Ok, vehicles will see a lot less play. Vehicles hiding, not needing LOS to shoot, will be even harder for necrons to kill, we dont have artillery.
   
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Very true. I absoloutrly love the new Lokhust model but... the gun options are just meh
   
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 p5freak wrote:
Ok, vehicles will see a lot less play. Vehicles hiding, not needing LOS to shoot, will be even harder for necrons to kill, we dont have artillery.


Do have much improved planes however, that can easily get LOS on them. Szarekhan Doom Scythes are going to be really deadly against artillery.
   
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 Ghaz wrote:
 Aza'Gorod wrote:
I agree, I've seen that image of an "official" destroyer a few times and think its not real or a stop gap. If we have that there where is the new box art and statine for the model. Feels very fake to me

Necron Destroyers are 'Direct Only' in the online store and therefore would come in a white box.


Fair enough but my point still stands, i've seen the white boxes before and they still say the name of the models inside date of manufacture, serial number etc.
I'm just saying I want more evidence instead of a picture of a sprue which is the only one I've seen so far.

Even on the GW website the product description for the destroyers still says includes green rods
   
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GW doesn't always update the store pages. I believe even when base sizes have changed they've not updated it.

   
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 Overread wrote:
GW doesn't always update the store pages. I believe even when base sizes have changed they've not updated it.

I'd find this more believable if the plastic rods were on a separate sprue as this would be cheaper for GW to reuse the old green rod mold then change the destroyer mold completely
   
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An image without a box or instruction guide is just an image with no other evidence to back it up.

 
   
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 Aza'Gorod wrote:
 Overread wrote:
GW doesn't always update the store pages. I believe even when base sizes have changed they've not updated it.

I'd find this more believable if the plastic rods were on a separate sprue as this would be cheaper for GW to reuse the old green rod mold then change the destroyer mold completely.

You're assuming that the 'green rods' had a mold that could be used for GW's grey plastic.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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 Ghaz wrote:
 Aza'Gorod wrote:
 Overread wrote:
GW doesn't always update the store pages. I believe even when base sizes have changed they've not updated it.

I'd find this more believable if the plastic rods were on a separate sprue as this would be cheaper for GW to reuse the old green rod mold then change the destroyer mold completely.

You're assuming that the 'green rods' had a mold that could be used for GW's grey plastic.


I agree with your point but even if the mold wasn't suitable it would still make more sense for GW to make a new smaller mold for the "grey" rods then shelve the old destroyer mold and create a new mold as you can't modify an existing mold just make a new one.

I just want more pictures of the new destroyers, I've seen multiple pictures of the other repackaged models but this is the only image I've seen related to destroyers which is why I question it.
If they had replaced the green rods more people would be posting images of it then just this 1 guy
   
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 Aza'Gorod wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
 Aza'Gorod wrote:
 Overread wrote:
GW doesn't always update the store pages. I believe even when base sizes have changed they've not updated it.

I'd find this more believable if the plastic rods were on a separate sprue as this would be cheaper for GW to reuse the old green rod mold then change the destroyer mold completely.

You're assuming that the 'green rods' had a mold that could be used for GW's grey plastic.


I agree with your point but even if the mold wasn't suitable it would still make more sense for GW to make a new smaller mold for the "grey" rods then shelve the old destroyer mold and create a new mold as you can't modify an existing mold just make a new one.

I just want more pictures of the new destroyers, I've seen multiple pictures of the other repackaged models but this is the only image I've seen related to destroyers which is why I question it.
If they had replaced the green rods more people would be posting images of it then just this 1 guy

GW has recut molds before (e.g., adding heavy weapons to the Ork Boyz sprues). It's not necessarily a completely new mold.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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 Ghaz wrote:
 Aza'Gorod wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
 Aza'Gorod wrote:
 Overread wrote:
GW doesn't always update the store pages. I believe even when base sizes have changed they've not updated it.

I'd find this more believable if the plastic rods were on a separate sprue as this would be cheaper for GW to reuse the old green rod mold then change the destroyer mold completely.

You're assuming that the 'green rods' had a mold that could be used for GW's grey plastic.


I agree with your point but even if the mold wasn't suitable it would still make more sense for GW to make a new smaller mold for the "grey" rods then shelve the old destroyer mold and create a new mold as you can't modify an existing mold just make a new one.

I just want more pictures of the new destroyers, I've seen multiple pictures of the other repackaged models but this is the only image I've seen related to destroyers which is why I question it.
If they had replaced the green rods more people would be posting images of it then just this 1 guy

GW has recut molds before (e.g., adding heavy weapons to the Ork Boyz sprues). It's not necessarily a completely new mold.


This, and adding 4 mostly featureless rods is a pretty simple recut to be done with a CNC milling machine, which they presumably have (since they cut all their moulds now from CAD).

This would mean not only do you only need 1 sprue per destroyer rather than two (with a rod sprue), but each sprue has exactly the number of rods the model needs.

Most certainly the minimum cost option of getting rid of the rods.
   
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Just a point, but having blank rods actually makes it line up to the new heavy destroyer model which also has blank rods in the latter part of its gun


   
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Thats the enmitic weapon right? Unless the old destroyers are having their weapons changed to some enmitic weapon
   
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I hope not. All of these enmitic type weapons seem to be gak

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 Overread wrote:
Just a point, but having blank rods actually makes it line up to the new heavy destroyer model which also has blank rods in the latter part of its gun

Spoiler:

This is the Lokhust Heavy Destroyer with Gauss Destructor:

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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Plus parts of the regular gun DO have that same design pattern

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BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

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