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Radium wrote:
Did a pixel count on the pic from warcom: 80 mm base, 120 mm tall avatar.

That's very close to the current FW version. Might get a few games with the old guy as soon as the codex is out.

Think I need to go and buy the classic model as way to get the bad taste of this bad model out of my mouth.

We waited 3 decades for this... oh well. The spear is a nice touch, but everything else just feels off somehow.

Still not sure why the Avatar needs to be so big.

Really love seeing the model on warcom, very tempted to grab it when it releases. As for the more recent leaks I understand why they are moving Wraithlords to the Elite spot but it's a very crowded place already. Wonder if they're moving Wraithseers back to HQ or to Elites.

 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
How does a leak like this even happen? I wonder what happens after the fact behind closed doors.

Also, those plastic flames are silly looking.

Marketing for some companies intentionally leak bits like this to keep interest going months before a release. They may also release an image 24hrs prior to a reveal to build credibility that the 'leaker' has real information, even if ultimately it doesn't matter since it's the same person pushing out the leak and the official image.

I don't know if GW (or whoever they contracted for digital marketing) is savvy enough for that kind of guerilla marketing though.

 The Red Hobbit wrote:
Really love seeing the model on warcom, very tempted to grab it when it releases. As for the more recent leaks I understand why they are moving Wraithlords to the Elite spot but it's a very crowded place already. Wonder if they're moving Wraithseers back to HQ or to Elites.

I think a lot of armies that have a large selection of units have a problem with this; even smaller armies do. It's why GW has been adding bonuses where if you take an elite slot character you can get another without taking up another slot(like Death Guard have). At this point GW needs to clean out some of their stuff or open up a new slot with a new designation.

 stonehorse wrote:
Think I need to go and buy the classic model as way to get the bad taste of this bad model out of my mouth.

We waited 3 decades for this... oh well. The spear is a nice touch, but everything else just feels off somehow.

Still not sure why the Avatar needs to be so big.

Nurse! Nurse! He's got out again!

Yes, a shouty bare head and a spear! So there are actually four heads and three weapons and all look good. It will be really hard to decide how to assemble this.

EDIT: Sorry, three heads.

Yeah splitting elites into two categories could work. I also prefer having Elites move into the troops slot (especially one that come in 5 or 10 man squads) and being slightly more expensive than your run of the mill troop. Like Immortals and Warriors or previously DA and Guardians. I would be all for putting units like SoB Celestians into the troop spot to free up room in the Elites section.

 Crimson wrote:
Yes, a shouty bare head and a spear! So there are actually four heads and three weapons and all look good. It will be really hard to decide how to assemble this.

A shouty bare head? From the leaks, i only saw three diffrent heads-

I really wish the avatar didn't have those flames coming off him, those don't look good. And I wish he, and every other model, weren't standing on some debris for no reason. And the blood coming out of his wrist is weird. Aside from that, he looks okay, pretty much how you'd expect, but with a boring pose. It's pretty cool that there are weapon options and an unhelmeted head, though. I suppose that's something.

 stonehorse wrote:

Still not sure why the Avatar needs to be so big.

Looks like he'll be a fair bit smaller than greater daemons. GW confirmed on social media that he's on an 80mm base.

Well he certainly looks less squat than in the leaked pictuers

Really digging the single crested helmet as well the barehead.

Im curious if the weapons will have different profiles. The axe is interesting.

Now I'm not sure if I should bother doing anything with my FW or hoard it until it goes OOP for monies

a very sexy AOK. Very impressed.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Yes, a shouty bare head and a spear! So there are actually four heads and three weapons and all look good. It will be really hard to decide how to assemble this.

A shouty bare head? From the leaks, i only saw three diffrent heads-

Oh, you’re right, the bare head was shouty all along. I misinterpreted the earlier blurry picture.

I almost always prefer helmeted heads but this time it would be a really hard choice which one to use. Also 3 weapons, awesome!

 GaroRobe wrote:
A part of me was hoping that one of these alternate builds wouldn't have the flames on them and that they'd be optional, but that was a very long shot in the dark.

I think the body is the same one on all 3, and they just swap the arm and head, rather than painting 3 of them.

I definitely prefer the FW sword one, but this is pretty damn good, and I like the options. I think the second helmeted head, on the spear one, is my favourite.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
I almost always prefer helmeted heads but this time it would be a really hard choice which one to use. Also 3 weapons, awesome!

I dont do it, but due to the huge scale this is maybe the perfect candidate for magnets?

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
I almost always prefer helmeted heads but this time it would be a really hard choice which one to use. Also 3 weapons, awesome!

I dont do it, but due to the huge scale this is maybe the perfect candidate for magnets?

I do not do magnets but for those that do it is a really good way to have all options covered with just 1 model.

 The Red Hobbit wrote:
Really love seeing the model on warcom, very tempted to grab it when it releases. As for the more recent leaks I understand why they are moving Wraithlords to the Elite spot but it's a very crowded place already. Wonder if they're moving Wraithseers back to HQ or to Elites.

 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
How does a leak like this even happen? I wonder what happens after the fact behind closed doors.

Also, those plastic flames are silly looking.

Marketing for some companies intentionally leak bits like this to keep interest going months before a release. They may also release an image 24hrs prior to a reveal to build credibility that the 'leaker' has real information, even if ultimately it doesn't matter since it's the same person pushing out the leak and the official image.

I don't know if GW (or whoever they contracted for digital marketing) is savvy enough for that kind of guerilla marketing though.

Well, in this case the actual preview is in the middle of the night or at 'feth o'clock' in the morning for a lot of people- including much of their usual audience. So, reminding people that it exists to check out the next day is probably a good idea.

There's a lot to like with this model but that bloody wrist does not look right to me.

It looks almost like someone swapped out a larger, much bloodier hand for a smaller one but then forgot to swap out the bloody wrist as well.

Given the other options, I had wondered if there was an alternative hand that fitted better but if there is then they're not showing it.

I like the idea of using the spear pole, but with the axe head and use the spear tip on the opposite end. Like a giant glaive

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 vipoid wrote:
There's a lot to like with this model but that bloody wrist does not look right to me.

It looks almost like someone swapped out a larger, much bloodier hand for a smaller one but then forgot to swap out the bloody wrist as well.

Given the other options, I had wondered if there was an alternative hand that fitted better but if there is then they're not showing it.

Might also be the paintjob. The hand is clean, but the arm is bloody. Painting the whole thing in blood might help it look better.

In Marvel comics, has Magneto ever wielded the Infinity gauntlet?
Because this is totally Magneto with the Infinity gauntlet

 vipoid wrote:
There's a lot to like with this model but that bloody wrist does not look right to me.

It looks almost like someone swapped out a larger, much bloodier hand for a smaller one but then forgot to swap out the bloody wrist as well.

Given the other options, I had wondered if there was an alternative hand that fitted better but if there is then they're not showing it.

Yeah, he's supposed to be the bloody-handed, not the bloody-wristed.

When I first saw it I thought "magma" rather than blood. I mean he is supposed to have a molten body and the only other phrase normally starting with molten is magma.

On a different subject I'm wondering how much taller he is from the current Avatar. I hate the thought that I have to buy another version of the same model to use him in games.

This new head is my least favourite of the bunch but still looks good. I'll be removing all flames and probably the blood drops from him.

Lol did someone edge highlight his pointy fire turning into smoke?

I really do wish, that they would do this new pose and options but with FW level of lava body detail and the second helmeted option. Sadly, this is impossible to achieve with plastic, so instead we now have those slightly irregular muscle groups and a paint job to make up for the lost effect.

And the bloody hand doesn't look like blood at all, it looks like he tried to hold a candle, but then forgot that he's from molten lava.

So, in the end, I'm staying with the FW one.

Spaaaarrrttaaa!

Seriously getting a 300 vibe from that spear/crest combo.

 Galef wrote:
In Marvel comics, has Magneto ever wielded the Infinity gauntlet?
Because this is totally Magneto with the Infinity gauntlet

Spoiler:

Close enough