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Lord
terminator armour
Nurgle
combi melta
chain fist
total 160

5 terminators
nurgle
4 power fists
total 230

10 marines
champion
combi melta
powerfist
plasma pistol
Nurgle
2 meltas
rhino
total 320

10 marines
champion
combi melta
powerfist
plasma pistol
Nurgle
2 meltas
rhino
total 320

10 marines
champion
combi melta
powerfist
plasma pistol
Nurgle
2 meltas
rhino
total 320

defiler
CC arm
heavy flamer
total 150

total 1500
what do you think im just starting so please rip it apart so it can get better

I know that most people like to take a DP over a Lord or Sorcerer for CSM lists, but it's not a bad idea to use the two latter instead. If you add a second HQ, make it a Nurgle DP with Rot or Warptime.
It's ok to have vanilla CSMs, but don't go and waste points on a plasma pistol and combi-weapon on the champs. If you're going for a pure Nurglesque army, use Plague Marines instead. They are just as tough and can also take meltas, which you should replace with plasma guns imo. Don't take four fists in a Termie squad, you need more than one PW or they'll die real quick to higher initiative models with PWs.
And please don't post the pts cost of anything but a unit's total here, or GW will have us shut down.

if i take out the combi weapons plasma and fists that leaves me with 135 pts
what should i spend it on
i was thinking about a predator but im not sure

I agree with what has been said here. If you are going for a nurgle army, take plague marines.

And please, DON'T waste the initiative 5 on the lord... double strength isn't worth it, he'll die in 1v1s with enemy HQs. Ditch the combi-melta and c.fist for a Plaguebringer. Much more cost-effective.

demon princes are than lords. they are harder to kill, move faster, kill more stuff and are cheaper. get a demon prince if you can.

you dont need 4 fists in a terminator squad. 1 fist per 2.5 terminators is a good rule. also mark of nurgle is too expensive for such a small squad. either add more terminators or remove it.

your CSM squads are rediculously expensive. 320pts is far too much. for less than that cost you can have a squad of plague marines, with a champion with a fist, two plasmas and a rhino. that is far far better. you should keep the fists on champions. they are well worth their points.

you also need some ranged anti-tank. a defiler doesnt reallt cut it (it gets even worse at anti-tank in 5th). take it out and get some havocs or oblits.

Agreed on the need for plague marines, the chainfist being not the best choice and the defiler not cutting it by his lonesome in 1500. I recut your list some and added in some variety that I'm sure Dakka won't like:

HQ
Lord - MoN, manreaper, combi-melta, terminator armor = 170

ELITES
5 Terminators - MoN, 3 powerfists, 3 combi-meltas = 235

TROOPS
7 Plague Marines - 2 plasma guns, PC w/ powerfist + icon, rhino = 271
7 Plague Marines - 2 plasma guns, PC w/ powerfist + icon, rhino = 271
7 Plague Marines - 2 meltaguns, PC w/ powerfist + icon, rhino = 261
5 Lesser Demons = 65

HEAVY SUPPORT
Obliterator = 75
Obliterator = 75
Obliterator = 75

TOTAL
1498 points

Termi lord has a demon weapon, really the only reason to take a lord IMO (and a damn good reason at that). He can either attach to the other termies or walk up with a plague squad, who don't necessarily need to ride up in their rhinos but can walk behind / next to them using them as mobile cover (and terrain should they wreck). The terminators are built for short-range pressure-cooking and then combat, for when a land raider power-rushes your line or one of those sexy new flame ones wants to get close and personal. You can do a risky drop into backfield to trash artillery and other hiding threats, them rampage the enemy zone, or use any of the plague icons for close support of your troops where needed. Lesser demons similarly summon where you need a little extra oomph or to tie up an enemy squad, or drop them onto an objective to claim or contest. Finally, obliterators do what they do.

Lots of modeling potential, some tactical flexibility and makes use of a little variety from the chaos codex. So a rich little semi-comptetive force

- Salvage

for plague marines do you have to buy the metal models and paint them deathguard colors
or could you use chaos marines

Convert the unliving hell out of them and CSM would pass as plague marines

Or at the least do a little damage converting and a nasty paint job and I'd accept that they are in fact the hardest infantry out there, not just spiky marines.

Either way you don't have to paint them in Death Guard colors, but it might help if you're doing less on the modeling side.

- Salvage

You can't have a Daemon weapon and a gun.

a lord can have a demon weapon and a gun. there is no limit on what wargear a model can have in the chaos codex. since a demon weapon is 2 handed you cannon use it with an additional closecombat weapon, but there is nothing to stop you shooting your pistol and then charging with your demon weapon.

Are you sure of that? I'm fairly positive that two-handed weapons cannot be used with any other weapons. Could you show me some errata or something that explains this?

can you show me anywhere in the chaos codex where it says you cant?

its the same reason CSM can fire bolters and they fight with a boltpistol + CC weapon, and CSM bikers can fight with 2 weapons when before they needed one hand to ride the bike (i assume the steer with their knees). a Demon Weapon doesnt replace any wargear, so the assumption is that they can use it in combination with any other stuff they have (just not gaining the extra +1A in combat for 2CC weapons because its a 2 handed weapon.)

The 2 handed/1 handed rule was ONLY listed in wargear lists, which are almost all gone now.

Either way, the limit was always 2 1-handed weapons or a 2-handed and a 1-handed, but with the latter you wouldn't get the bonus attack in hth.

Right ok. I've read the 3rd edition dex far too much. However, it does replace their CC weapon Regwon.

Regwon wrote:can you show me anywhere in the chaos codex where it says you cant?

its the same reason CSM can fire bolters and they fight with a boltpistol + CC weapon, and CSM bikers can fight with 2 weapons when before they needed one hand to ride the bike (i assume the steer with their knees). a Demon Weapon doesnt replace any wargear, so the assumption is that they can use it in combination with any other stuff they have (just not gaining the extra +1A in combat for 2CC weapons because its a 2 handed weapon.)

I would love to see a CSM modelled driving a bike with his knees and using two weapons