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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 04:35:48
Subject: bloodthirster or LOC/Kairos in 2250?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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There's a 3 round tourny coming up and I am wondering what the best GD to bring - a Bloodthirster to take care of strong chars/units or a LOC/Kairos to magick them to death? With either the BT or LOC/kairos I will have 2 tzeentch heralds and a nurgle herald to back them up. I am just curious what people normally take?
My other troops are probably like:
16 plaguebearers
10 x 2 bloodletters/horrors
5 hounds
6 flamers
6flamers/5hounds / 3 fiends + 5 furies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 05:02:54
Subject: Re:bloodthirster or LOC/Kairos in 2250?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Go Thirster, you won't regret it.
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All in all, fact is that Warhammer 40K has never been as balanced as it is now, and codex releases have never been as interesting as they are now (new units and vehicles and tons of new special rules/strategies each release -- not just the same old crap with a few changes in statlines and points costs).
-Therion
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New Codexia's Finest Hour - my fluff about the change between codexes, roughly novel length. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 14:28:00
Subject: bloodthirster or LOC/Kairos in 2250?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Cherry Hill, NJ
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It really all depends on how you like to play. If you want to be in combat quickly then take the BT, If you like to sit back and cast then play the LoC or Karios.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 15:10:25
Subject: bloodthirster or LOC/Kairos in 2250?
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which GD do you think will get his points back fast and stay alive? BT can pretty much rip any "single model" besides char on dragons to shreds in one turn - while LOC/Kairos will take considerable magic to bring them down. I think BT loses his explosiveness if there aren't many expensive units while LOC can always have steady output.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 15:15:59
Subject: bloodthirster or LOC/Kairos in 2250?
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The thing about BT is that he prevents the enemy's main combat unit from doing it's thing. BT will never make his points back, but he'll eat up ~300 points of key enemy points, and put them on the back foot for the rest of your blitz.
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All in all, fact is that Warhammer 40K has never been as balanced as it is now, and codex releases have never been as interesting as they are now (new units and vehicles and tons of new special rules/strategies each release -- not just the same old crap with a few changes in statlines and points costs).
-Therion
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New Codexia's Finest Hour - my fluff about the change between codexes, roughly novel length. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 15:30:23
Subject: bloodthirster or LOC/Kairos in 2250?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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I agree with NegativeMonkey, you must pick based on your army strategy. LoC works for magic heavy Tzeentch builds that usually also pack lots of flamers and flying chariots. The strategy is to whittle down with excessive magic and shooting and only engage strategically. BT is more for combat rush and should probably have plenty of other rapid and/or hitty threats on the ground, too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/07/23 16:31:52
Subject: bloodthirster or LOC/Kairos in 2250?
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so if I have a little bit of magic focus (8/6) BEFORE picking either BT or LOC/Kairos. Is it overall better to raise the bar on magic with LOC/kairos or balance it out with BT? I will have 1-2 squads of flamers and the fast unit will probably be Hounds so BT will most likely be by himself most of the time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/11 20:56:16
Subject: Re:bloodthirster or LOC/Kairos in 2250?
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Plaguebearer with a Flu
Virginia Beach
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I'd take LoC if you take the Blue Scribes. BT is a great addition to an already strong CC army. If your army is mixed, I'd actually vote for a GUO or KOS. They tend to do the multiple role thing better and support a well balanced army better. I view the 4 GDs on a scale going from all CC/no magic on one side to minimized CC/Maximized magic on the other end like this: BT, KoS, GUO, LOC. The same is true of the special character variants.
With your build, I'd say a well done GUO will be your best bet. He has respectable movement of 6, 10 wounds, and he can assassinate characters really well if you give him the balesword and noxious vapors. First round of combat you are Str 8 auto wound multiplied into d6 wounds. But if you were going out of the two you mentioned, I would go BT. He would support what anvil units you have in the army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/12 02:06:50
Subject: bloodthirster or LOC/Kairos in 2250?
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[DCM]
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If you want to slap your opponent from pillar to post, go the BT, the most undercosted unit in WHFB.
Personally I'd go a 2 headed LOC, primarily as you look pretty magic light ATM.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/13 22:09:32
Subject: Re:bloodthirster or LOC/Kairos in 2250?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Seeing as how you already have the Plaguebearer tarpit with the Herald, I have to agree with Waaagh_Gonads. Only a 2 tzeentch herald list should use Kairos. Just use the Plaguebearers to soak up the most obvious threat, and nuke the rest with magic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/15 13:16:01
Subject: bloodthirster or LOC/Kairos in 2250?
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[DCM]
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Have you played the tourney yet?
I'd like to know what you took and how it went....
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2026: Games Played:20/Models Bought:323/Sold:0/Painted:132
2025: Games Played:21/Models Bought:299/Sold:294/Painted:199
2024: Games Played:8/Models Bought:393/Sold:519/Painted: 207
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
2012-19: Games Played:781/Models Bought: 1935/Sold:1108/Painted:704 |
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