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2008/08/01 06:00:46
Subject: Direct fire ordinance, cover save question
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Plastictrees
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This came up at my gaming store tonight and I figured it would be easier to tap into the distributed intelligence of Dakka than tracking down all the rules.
A direct fire ordinance shot from a russ scatters onto a unit of space marines.
-The marines who are hit are out of LoS behind vehicles with respect to the Russ (which the rule tell us is fine--they are still hit).
-The marines are in the open otherwise, not near any kind of area terrain or other cover.
-The marines are in the open with respect to the center hole of the blast marker's final position.
Do the marines get a cover save?
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"The complete or partial destruction of the enemy must be regarded as the sole object of all engagements.... Direct annihilation of the enemy's forces must always be the dominant consideration." Karl von Clausewitz |
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2008/08/01 06:06:51
Subject: Direct fire ordinance, cover save question
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Draw a line from the gun to the unit with your handy dandy GW laser pointer. If the vehicles block LOS then they marines get cover saves, if not, they do not.
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2008/08/01 06:08:45
Subject: Direct fire ordinance, cover save question
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Page 21: "When any part of the target model’s body (as defined on page 16) is obscured from the point of view of the firer, the target model is in cover."
We are told that the ordnance can scatter out of LOS and still hurt things, however, nothing specifically overrides this rule, as 100% of the space marines' bodies are hidden by a friendly unit, they are entitled to a 4+ cover save.
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Interceptor Drones can disembark at any point during the Sun Shark's move (even though models cannot normally disembark from Zooming Flyers).
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2008/08/01 06:43:02
Subject: Direct fire ordinance, cover save question
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Lieutenant General
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There's also a conversation on this topic HERE that may be of some use.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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2008/08/01 13:23:30
Subject: Direct fire ordinance, cover save question
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Flavius Infernus wrote:-The marines are in the open with respect to the center hole of the blast marker's final position.
I believe this only matters for barrage weapons
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2008/08/06 15:03:15
Subject: Direct fire ordinance, cover save question
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Dakka Veteran
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If the vehicle hides 50% or more of the models, the marines get a cover save. If the vehicle hides less than 50% of the models, they do not get a cover save.
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