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The new GT missions pack just made my army illegal to run in tourneys (and pretty much every pick up game I play). Hoping we get the new Codex sometime in February.

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 Sarigar wrote:
The new GT missions pack just made my army illegal to run in tourneys (and pretty much every pick up game I play). Hoping we get the new Codex sometime in February.


Can you elaborate?

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I can no longer play two Custom Craftworld detachments in a single army.

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Ah that sucks! In my larger games I like to have that option too.

Good prep for the next codex I suppose as you have to run a single craftworld if you want the Strands of Fate ability i believe.

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 Sarigar wrote:
I can no longer play two Custom Craftworld detachments in a single army.

Be prepared for Biel Tan, Iyanden, Alaitoc or Saim Hann, or even a custom CW.

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 Sarigar wrote:
The new GT missions pack just made my army illegal to run in tourneys (and pretty much every pick up game I play). Hoping we get the new Codex sometime in February.
You can always run it as a single Craftworld.

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 Sarigar wrote:
I can no longer play two Custom Craftworld detachments in a single army.


That's been quite a hit for my army too. It does take away some of the inconsistencies in my list like not being able to transport my Dire Avengers in other transports but losing Hunters of Ancient Relics on my close combat units hurts and in the short term waiting for a codex will be harder to get wins. Shame to see my current list go, as I doubt the power of an army without the mixed detachments will be higher than it.

Did play what is likely to be my last Craftworlds game with the old rules. A 77-62 win against Ultramarines, Guilliman, two warsuits, three redemptor dreads and character support with intercessors. It was close and the warsuits were very annoying to deal with, as were the dreads gettings rerolls with Guilliman and a techmarine boosting one of them when in range. The low model count was a bonus though and keeping out of charge range was easy enough to do.

   
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Ultramarines has been a tough matchup for me as the armies I faced all had Guilleman and all the rerolls and hard hitting assault made for very challenging times for midboard control.

I've got another tourney in a couple weeks. I'm looking a replacing my close combat styled Craftworld Detachment with a Harlequin Detachment. I'll keep the shooting styled Craftworld detachment.

I've read the new GT Missions and Secondaries. I think they will have a bigger impact to my army designs than I expect. I'll definitely get a few games in this weekend to get a feel for them.

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I think playing against the list where the centre board plays a big part of the game would have made it a lot more difficult for me to win. Battle Lines luckily meant I could pivot away from combat chances that weren't on my terms and his warsuits forced me to disembark my Wraithblades early on to get rid of them. That being said, it was still tough to force my way up the board and I didn't max out Engage every turn.

I'd be keen to hear your thoughts about your army design, I'll be playing next week so I'm keen to see what I need to change. Definitely going the shooting variant too. Warp Spiders will likely need to be a squad of 6 as I don't want the chance of failing RND, if I even take that secondary now.

   
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***Just realized this list actually fits in a single Battalion. I'll adjust and start with 12 CP**

Not overly happy with it, but I'll give this a try this weekend to prepare for a monthly tourney. Warding Runes is a bit 'meh', but it gives something to every model at least.

Increased both Swooping Hawks and Warp Spiders by one model each to reflect change to Retrieve Octarius Data.

The list is susceptible to new Take No Prisoners (113 wounds = 13 max points)

Points are 2000 points exactly as Battlescribe does not reflect point drops for Dragons, Wraithblades, and Wraithguard.

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [84 PL, 12CP, 1,553pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Craftworld Attribute
. *Custom Craftworld*: Expert Crafters, Warding Runes

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype

+ HQ +

Farseer Skyrunner [7 PL, 140pts]: 0. Smite, 3. Fortune, 4. Executioner, Shuriken Pistol, Singing Spear

Warlock Skyrunner [4 PL, 65pts]: 0. Smite, 4. Protect/Jinx, 6: Seer of the Shifting Vector, Shuriken Pistol, Warlord, Witchblade

+ Troops +

Dire Avengers [2 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Dire Avenger: 4x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 4x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults
. . Exarch Power: Shredding Fire

Dire Avengers [2 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Dire Avenger: 4x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 4x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults
. . Exarch Power: Shredding Fire

Dire Avengers [2 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Dire Avenger: 4x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 4x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults
. . Exarch Power: Shredding Fire

Dire Avengers [2 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Dire Avenger: 4x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 4x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults
. . Exarch Power: Shredding Fire

+ Elites +

Wraithblades [10 PL, 185pts]: Ghostaxe and Forceshield, 5x Wraithblade

Wraithblades [10 PL, 185pts]: Ghostaxe and Forceshield, 5x Wraithblade

+ Fast Attack +

Warp Spiders [8 PL, 108pts]
. 5x Warp Spider: 5x Death Spinner
. Warp Spider Exarch: Death Spinner
. . Exarch Power: Web of Deceit

+ Heavy Support +

Dark Reapers [5 PL, 106pts]
. 2x Dark Reaper: 2x Reaper Launcher
. Dark Reaper Exarch: Tempest Launcher
. . Exarch Power: Rain of Death

Dark Reapers [5 PL, 106pts]
. 2x Dark Reaper: 2x Reaper Launcher
. Dark Reaper Exarch: Tempest Launcher
. . Exarch Power: Rain of Death

Dark Reapers [18 PL, 288pts]
. 8x Dark Reaper: 8x Reaper Launcher
. Dark Reaper Exarch: Reaper Launcher
. . Exarch Power: Rapid Shot

+ Dedicated Transport +

Wave Serpent [9 PL, 150pts]: Twin Shuriken Cannon, Twin Shuriken Catapult

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [30 PL, -2CP, 487pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Craftworld Attribute
. *Custom Craftworld*: Expert Crafters, Warding Runes

Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]

+ HQ +

Spiritseer [3 PL, 60pts]: 0. Smite, 4. Protect/Jinx, Shuriken Pistol
. Faolchu's Wing

+ Troops +

Storm Guardians [3 PL, 56pts]
. 8x Storm Guardian - Aeldari Blade: 8x Aeldari Blade, 8x Plasma Grenades, 8x Shuriken Pistol

+ Elites +

Fire Dragons [6 PL, 100pts]
. 4x Fire Dragon: 4x Fusion Gun, 4x Melta Bombs
. Fire Dragon Exarch: Fusion Gun
. . Exarch Power: Crack Shot

Wraithguard [10 PL, 175pts]: Wraithcannon, 5x Wraithguard

+ Fast Attack +

Swooping Hawks [8 PL, 96pts]
. 5x Swooping Hawk: 5x Lasblaster
. Swooping Hawk Exarch: Lasblaster
. . Exarch Power: Evade

++ Total: [114 PL, 10CP, 2,040pts] ++

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Automatically Appended Next Post:
Updated list. Dropped Spiritseer and Wave Serpent.

Unsure about the Relic.

1997 points


++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [112 PL, 12CP, 2,047pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Craftworld Attribute
. *Custom Craftworld*: Expert Crafters, Warding Runes

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype

+ HQ +

Farseer Skyrunner [7 PL, 140pts]: 0. Smite, 3. Fortune, 4. Executioner, Shuriken Pistol, Singing Spear

Warlock Skyrunner [4 PL, 65pts]: 0. Smite, 4. Protect/Jinx, 6: Seer of the Shifting Vector, Shuriken Pistol, Warlord, Witchblade

+ Troops +

Dire Avengers [2 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Dire Avenger: 4x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 4x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults
. . Exarch Power: Shredding Fire

Dire Avengers [2 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Dire Avenger: 4x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 4x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults
. . Exarch Power: Shredding Fire

Dire Avengers [2 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Dire Avenger: 4x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 4x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults
. . Exarch Power: Shredding Fire

Dire Avengers [2 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Dire Avenger: 4x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 4x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults
. . Exarch Power: Shredding Fire

Storm Guardians [3 PL, 56pts]
. 8x Storm Guardian - Aeldari Blade: 8x Aeldari Blade, 8x Plasma Grenades, 8x Shuriken Pistol

+ Elites +

Fire Dragons [6 PL, 100pts]
. 4x Fire Dragon: 4x Fusion Gun, 4x Melta Bombs
. Fire Dragon Exarch: Fusion Gun
. . Exarch Power: Crack Shot

Wraithblades [10 PL, 185pts]: Ghostaxe and Forceshield, 5x Wraithblade

Wraithblades [10 PL, 185pts]: Ghostaxe and Forceshield, 5x Wraithblade

Wraithblades [10 PL, 185pts]: Ghostaxe and Forceshield, 5x Wraithblade

Wraithguard [10 PL, 175pts]: Wraithcannon, 5x Wraithguard

+ Fast Attack +

Swooping Hawks [8 PL, 96pts]
. 5x Swooping Hawk: 5x Lasblaster
. Swooping Hawk Exarch: Lasblaster
. . Exarch Power: Evade

Warp Spiders [8 PL, 108pts]
. 5x Warp Spider: 5x Death Spinner
. Warp Spider Exarch: Death Spinner
. . Exarch Power: Web of Deceit

+ Heavy Support +

Dark Reapers [5 PL, 106pts]
. 2x Dark Reaper: 2x Reaper Launcher
. Dark Reaper Exarch: Tempest Launcher
. . Exarch Power: Rain of Death

Dark Reapers [5 PL, 106pts]
. 2x Dark Reaper: 2x Reaper Launcher
. Dark Reaper Exarch: Tempest Launcher
. . Exarch Power: Rain of Death

Dark Reapers [18 PL, 320pts]
. 9x Dark Reaper: 9x Reaper Launcher
. Dark Reaper Exarch: Reaper Launcher
. . Exarch Power: Rapid Shot

++ Total: [112 PL, 12CP, 2,047pts] ++

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Nice. I've played Warding Runes a few times now and in 9th it seems to save my ass so many times.

I played against Grey Knights the other day (and won I might add!!!?) and the ability to shrug a third of their smite spam really took the sting out of their tail.

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I played three games this weekend using the new missions; 31 (uggh), 32, and 12. Faced Black Templars, Crusher Stampede, and Craftworld/Harlequins.

I'll start off by stating I did not like running a single Battalion. The Craftworld traits are extremely important. I see why some folks don't like Wraithblades with Axe and Shield if they don't have things like Hunters of Ancient Relics and Wrath of the Dead.

Each mission's Primary has two elements to score points. Understanding how to build scoring the extra points will be key. All three of my games saw lower scores, regardless of win/lose.

Of note, my final game was a Craftworld vs Craftworld and we wanted to try out a few of the leaked rules.

Strands of Fate: very cool, important, and there is nuance with this. Also, a lot of fun.

Triple Wraithknights. I ran it based on the leaked data sheet. I am not saying they are great, but completely overwhelmed my opponent. I didn't expect it as they have been so bad since 8th edition. But, I'm going to try them out again. -1 damage and a 5++ or 4++... I am very intrigued and excited to get ahold of the new codex.

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General question- with the new Avatar coming out, how long will the current Avatar model be allowed to be used in organized events? In casual play? What do you do with a model that is no longer legal in any format save house rules?
   
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Leo_the_Rat wrote:
General question- with the new Avatar coming out, how long will the current Avatar model be allowed to be used in organized events? In casual play? What do you do with a model that is no longer legal in any format save house rules?

Guess that either model will be playable in an event as long as the old model doesn’t move to Legend eventually with different rules.

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Leo_the_Rat wrote:
General question- with the new Avatar coming out, how long will the current Avatar model be allowed to be used in organized events? In casual play? What do you do with a model that is no longer legal in any format save house rules?


Probably for as long as you would like. Smaller base would mean less board control/auras is about the only detriment.

CB

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Recommend checking with the organizer of the event. The size of the actual model and size of its base will be substantially different (I'm assuming you are referring to the Avatar released in 2nd edition). The 9th edition Avatar has more wounds and can be more easily targeted; the smaller model can make a difference when trying to remain out of LOS. Movement through areas of the board can be less impactful using a smaller base. The detriment will be auras, as previously mentioned.


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He gang.

Been a while since I played some 40k.

Is Battle scribe up to date with current points?

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AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "


 Eonfuzz wrote:


I would much rather everyone have a half ass than no ass.


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In the new codex, an Asuryani or Drukhari army can include one Harlie patrol without breakin the new rule about subfactions.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/02/01/aeldari-lets-you-bring-a-harlequin-troupe-with-your-battle-forged-armies/

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Re: Using the (now) old Avatar

I was more interested in what to do in say an FLGS. It seems wrong to use the old model with new rules but it also seems wrong to play the old model with the old rules. I know I could just ask my opponent what he/she would prefer but I was just wondering, in general, how people feel about the issue.
   
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Upstate, New York

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
Re: Using the (now) old Avatar

I was more interested in what to do in say an FLGS. It seems wrong to use the old model with new rules but it also seems wrong to play the old model with the old rules. I know I could just ask my opponent what he/she would prefer but I was just wondering, in general, how people feel about the issue.


For casual play I’d play the new rules, but acknowledge the size issues.

I’d play with auras bases on small model size. This is a handicap for me.
Anything that’s vaguely a LoS question, they can see it. If I thought the new model could be spotted, I’d let them take their shots.
How many guys you want to pile in? You could fit more around the new guy, so count them as base-to-base.

Generally If I’m using a counts-as (which is basically what is happening here) I take the worst case for myself, and the best case for my opponent.

Alternatively, once we get the new base size and dimensions, you could just stick the old guy on a new base temporarily and note how high he should be for LoS checks.

Just HIWPI, YMMV.

   
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Leo_the_Rat wrote:
Re: Using the (now) old Avatar

I was more interested in what to do in say an FLGS. It seems wrong to use the old model with new rules but it also seems wrong to play the old model with the old rules. I know I could just ask my opponent what he/she would prefer but I was just wondering, in general, how people feel about the issue.


Just no... Now that he loses the look out sir rule, the smaller size gives him a huge advantage.

I've got a Forge World Avatar and if the size comparisons are correct, I think people might get away with using that one (hard to say without properly putting the two next to one another) but the older metal/resin one is just too small now unless you're willing to put it on a bigger base and estimate what the true height and size it should be for line of sight - in which case, what would be the point?

I get that people might still want to field a beloved miniature that they've spent hours painting, so if the above conditions were agreed between me and a player, I would never say it's not allowed, but I personally wouldn't be one to bother asking. It'd be like proxying a Vyper for a Crimson Hunter.

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 Crafter91 wrote:


Just no... Now that he loses the look out sir rule, the smaller size gives him a huge advantage.

I've got a Forge World Avatar and if the size comparisons are correct, I think people might get away with using that one (hard to say without properly putting the two next to one another) but the older metal/resin one is just too small now unless you're willing to put it on a bigger base and estimate what the true height and size it should be for line of sight - in which case, what would be the point?

I get that people might still want to field a beloved miniature that they've spent hours painting, so if the above conditions were agreed between me and a player, I would never say it's not allowed, but I personally wouldn't be one to bother asking. It'd be like proxying a Vyper for a Crimson Hunter.


I do like the new Avatar model, quite a lot, however, I don't know that I'm willing to spend 140 USD on something that "Should" be good. I get your point about LOS issues and base sizes, but I think I'm going to wait for the model to release so we can know the actual height, then build up a scenic base with the old Metal model on top to get the size needed to be fair about it. It's what I had to do with my Lords of Change and Kairos... I spent WAY too much time painting those....
   
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 Sarigar wrote:

Triple Wraithknights. I ran it based on the leaked data sheet. I am not saying they are great, but completely overwhelmed my opponent. I didn't expect it as they have been so bad since 8th edition. But, I'm going to try them out again. -1 damage and a 5++ or 4++... I am very intrigued and excited to get ahold of the new codex.


Hey, what configuration of Wraithknights did you run? And how did the rest of the army look like?

Bye,
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Florida

Stoni42 wrote:
 Sarigar wrote:

Triple Wraithknights. I ran it based on the leaked data sheet. I am not saying they are great, but completely overwhelmed my opponent. I didn't expect it as they have been so bad since 8th edition. But, I'm going to try them out again. -1 damage and a 5++ or 4++... I am very intrigued and excited to get ahold of the new codex.


Hey, what configuration of Wraithknights did you run? And how did the rest of the army look like?

Bye,
Stoni


Off the top of my head:

I ran one of each type: Sword/Shield, Suncannon/Shield, 2 x Heavy Wraithcannons. This was one detachment, costing 6 CP.

Next was a Patrol:
Farseer, Autarch, 1 x 5 Rangers, 2 x 8 Storm Guardians, 1 x 6 Warp Spiders, 1 x 10 Wraithguard with D-Scythes

I believe the army had Wrath of the Dead and Expert Crafters.


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Gave the new missions a whirl on Tuesday, figured I'd get to grips with the missions and see what might work in the new codex and came up with this list below.

Faced World Eaters so it wasn't exactly a meta list I was up against, and 1W Chaos Marines aren't much of a metric to work off but has some good success with a sticky blob of buffed Wraithblades holding out against a bunch of possessed and a lord for a couple of turns, allowing me to whittle other parts of his army down as it moved up the board. Using units of 6 was of great help in getting RND, ensuring Engage and contesting points where it mattered.

Reduced points on the Fire Dragons meant that five of them in a Falcon wasn't a terrible investment and made their points back easily, killing a venomcrawler and plinking wounds off marines and the rhinos.

Quickening the Wraithblades was helpful as they started on the board, my opponent had one skorpius whirlwind which wasn't much of an issue the whole game even with Kharn attached giving rerolls.

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Craftworld Attribute
. Custom Craftworld: Expert Crafters, Masterful Shots

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype

The Path of War

+ HQ +

Farseer [6 PL, 115pts]: 0. Smite, 1. Guide, 3. Fortune, Shuriken Pistol, Witchblade
. Faolchu's Wing

Farseer Skyrunner [7 PL, 135pts]: 0. Smite, 2. Doom, 4. Executioner, Shuriken Pistol, Witchblade

Warlock Skyrunner [4 PL, 65pts]: 0. Smite, 4. Protect/Jinx, 6: Seer of the Shifting Vector, Shuriken Pistol, Warlord, Witchblade

+ Troops +

Dire Avengers [2 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Dire Avenger: 4x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 4x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults
. . Exarch Power: Bladestorm

Dire Avengers [2 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Dire Avenger: 4x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 4x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults
. . Exarch Power: Bladestorm

Dire Avengers [2 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Dire Avenger: 4x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 4x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults
. . Exarch Power: Bladestorm

+ Elites +

Fire Dragons [6 PL, 90pts]
. 4x Fire Dragon: 4x Fusion Gun, 4x Melta Bombs
. Fire Dragon Exarch: Fusion Gun
. . Exarch Power: Dragon's Bite

Striking Scorpions [3 PL, 65pts]
. 4x Striking Scorpion: 4x Plasma Grenades, 4x Scorpion Chainsword, 4x Shuriken Pistol
. Striking Scorpion Exarch: Scorpion Chainsword, Shuriken Pistol
. . Exarch Power: Stalker

Wraithblades [10 PL, 175pts]: Ghostswords, 5x Wraithblade

+ Fast Attack +

Shining Spears [5 PL, 105pts]
. 2x Shining Spear: 2x Laser Lance, 2x Twin Shuriken Catapult
. Shining Spear Exarch: Laser Lance
. . Exarch Power: Skilled Rider

Swooping Hawks [8 PL, 96pts]
. 5x Swooping Hawk: 5x Lasblaster
. Swooping Hawk Exarch: Lasblaster
. . Exarch Power: Evade

Warp Spiders [8 PL, 108pts]
. 5x Warp Spider: 5x Death Spinner
. Warp Spider Exarch: Two Death Spinners
. . Exarch Power: Web of Deceit

+ Heavy Support +

Dark Reapers [18 PL, 256pts]
. 7x Dark Reaper: 7x Reaper Launcher
. Dark Reaper Exarch: Reaper Launcher
. . Exarch Power: Rapid Shot

Falcon [8 PL, 135pts]: Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones, Twin Shuriken Catapult

Wraithseer [8 PL, 170pts]: 0. Smite, 5. Quicken/Restrain, D-cannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Wave Serpent [9 PL, 160pts]: Spirit Stones, Twin Shuriken Cannon, Twin Shuriken Catapult

Wave Serpent [9 PL, 160pts]: Spirit Stones, Twin Shuriken Cannon, Twin Shuriken Catapult

++ Total: [115 PL, 12CP, 2,000pts] ++

   
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Agile Revenant Titan





Florida

I like the list! It has a varied number of tools and bumping some units up to six matters quite a bit. RND is still a solid choice, but I think it requires one more mobile unit than I''m accustomed to; your list has Hawks and Spiders which is a solid option.

I've not tried the Falcon/Dragon combination yet. Definitely seems worthwhile for just over 200 points. May try it out on a Friday evening game. Thanks for sharing.

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United Kingdom

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 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Gave the new missions a whirl on Tuesday, figured I'd get to grips with the missions and see what might work in the new codex and came up with this list below.

Faced World Eaters so it wasn't exactly a meta list I was up against, and 1W Chaos Marines aren't much of a metric to work off but has some good success with a sticky blob of buffed Wraithblades holding out against a bunch of possessed and a lord for a couple of turns, allowing me to whittle other parts of his army down as it moved up the board. Using units of 6 was of great help in getting RND, ensuring Engage and contesting points where it mattered.

Reduced points on the Fire Dragons meant that five of them in a Falcon wasn't a terrible investment and made their points back easily, killing a venomcrawler and plinking wounds off marines and the rhinos.

Quickening the Wraithblades was helpful as they started on the board, my opponent had one skorpius whirlwind which wasn't much of an issue the whole game even with Kharn attached giving rerolls.

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Craftworld Attribute
. Custom Craftworld: Expert Crafters, Masterful Shots

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype

The Path of War

+ HQ +

Farseer [6 PL, 115pts]: 0. Smite, 1. Guide, 3. Fortune, Shuriken Pistol, Witchblade
. Faolchu's Wing

Farseer Skyrunner [7 PL, 135pts]: 0. Smite, 2. Doom, 4. Executioner, Shuriken Pistol, Witchblade

Warlock Skyrunner [4 PL, 65pts]: 0. Smite, 4. Protect/Jinx, 6: Seer of the Shifting Vector, Shuriken Pistol, Warlord, Witchblade

+ Troops +

Dire Avengers [2 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Dire Avenger: 4x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 4x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults
. . Exarch Power: Bladestorm

Dire Avengers [2 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Dire Avenger: 4x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 4x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults
. . Exarch Power: Bladestorm

Dire Avengers [2 PL, 55pts]
. 4x Dire Avenger: 4x Avenger Shuriken Catapult, 4x Plasma Grenades
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults
. . Exarch Power: Bladestorm

+ Elites +

Fire Dragons [6 PL, 90pts]
. 4x Fire Dragon: 4x Fusion Gun, 4x Melta Bombs
. Fire Dragon Exarch: Fusion Gun
. . Exarch Power: Dragon's Bite

Striking Scorpions [3 PL, 65pts]
. 4x Striking Scorpion: 4x Plasma Grenades, 4x Scorpion Chainsword, 4x Shuriken Pistol
. Striking Scorpion Exarch: Scorpion Chainsword, Shuriken Pistol
. . Exarch Power: Stalker

Wraithblades [10 PL, 175pts]: Ghostswords, 5x Wraithblade

+ Fast Attack +

Shining Spears [5 PL, 105pts]
. 2x Shining Spear: 2x Laser Lance, 2x Twin Shuriken Catapult
. Shining Spear Exarch: Laser Lance
. . Exarch Power: Skilled Rider

Swooping Hawks [8 PL, 96pts]
. 5x Swooping Hawk: 5x Lasblaster
. Swooping Hawk Exarch: Lasblaster
. . Exarch Power: Evade

Warp Spiders [8 PL, 108pts]
. 5x Warp Spider: 5x Death Spinner
. Warp Spider Exarch: Two Death Spinners
. . Exarch Power: Web of Deceit

+ Heavy Support +

Dark Reapers [18 PL, 256pts]
. 7x Dark Reaper: 7x Reaper Launcher
. Dark Reaper Exarch: Reaper Launcher
. . Exarch Power: Rapid Shot

Falcon [8 PL, 135pts]: Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones, Twin Shuriken Catapult

Wraithseer [8 PL, 170pts]: 0. Smite, 5. Quicken/Restrain, D-cannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Wave Serpent [9 PL, 160pts]: Spirit Stones, Twin Shuriken Cannon, Twin Shuriken Catapult

Wave Serpent [9 PL, 160pts]: Spirit Stones, Twin Shuriken Cannon, Twin Shuriken Catapult

++ Total: [115 PL, 12CP, 2,000pts] ++


You may want to check it back with the Nachmund book. Several of these units have dropped in points. Wave Serpents, Falcon, Reapers to name a few.

My 2k list dropped by about 50 points.

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Edinburgh, UK

The points are correct for the list, only points changes here are the Dragons and Blades, which saved me like 20 points overall. Serpents, Reapers and Falcons didn't change according to my manual.

   
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Regular Dakkanaut





United Kingdom

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
The points are correct for the list, only points changes here are the Dragons and Blades, which saved me like 20 points overall. Serpents, Reapers and Falcons didn't change according to my manual.


My mistake, just checked. Where on Earth did i read that they were going down I wonder!

I'll need to look at my list and see what's actually saved me the points

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Furious Fire Dragon




USA

Does anyone have thoughts on new Autarch builds? I never got around to finishing my winged version, which to my surprise allows me to add some interesting options that come from the new kit. I know I want to do a warp generator on the new version because "rule of cool." What weapons should each of them get?

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