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 bbb wrote:
I quit all the Netflix Marvel shows 2 episodes into Defenders. Is Daredevil S3 worth watching? Do I need to subject myself to the rest of the Defenders episodes before I watch Daredevil S3?


S3 is definitely worth watching. It has a great version of Bullseye throwing all kinds of crap in great ways.

You don't need to watch defenders. Super simple. Building collapses at the end and everyone thinks Matt Murdock/Dare Devil died in the collapse. Post credits he wakes up in a church being tended to by a nun. Enter s3.


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I finally got around to watching Ms. Marvel; it's the first of the MCU shows that I didn't watch each episode as soon as it came out. Overall, it was kind of meh for me. Probably my least favorite of the shows so far. The visual styles and everything were interesting, but otherwise it was very forgettable. Here's hoping She-Hulk is better.

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 ZergSmasher wrote:
I finally got around to watching Ms. Marvel; it's the first of the MCU shows that I didn't watch each episode as soon as it came out. Overall, it was kind of meh for me. Probably my least favorite of the shows so far. The visual styles and everything were interesting, but otherwise it was very forgettable. Here's hoping She-Hulk is better.


I doubt I will ever re-watch it. Teens making teen choices doesn't exactly have a draw for me anymore. The family stuff is good, but so realistic its a little painful (certainly more painful than I want in a lighthearted superhero show), and the 'conflict' with the bad guys honestly just eats time away from the good stuff. Damage Control is stupid, pointless and unexplained beyond 'government agency bad.'

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Voss wrote:
 ZergSmasher wrote:
I finally got around to watching Ms. Marvel; it's the first of the MCU shows that I didn't watch each episode as soon as it came out. Overall, it was kind of meh for me. Probably my least favorite of the shows so far. The visual styles and everything were interesting, but otherwise it was very forgettable. Here's hoping She-Hulk is better.


I doubt I will ever re-watch it. Teens making teen choices doesn't exactly have a draw for me anymore. The family stuff is good, but so realistic its a little painful (certainly more painful than I want in a lighthearted superhero show), and the 'conflict' with the bad guys honestly just eats time away from the good stuff. Damage Control is stupid, pointless and unexplained beyond 'government agency bad.'


My 11 year old daughter was re-watching it in the basement while I was working on a re-organization project on Sunday, so even thought we finally got around to watching the last episodes Friday night, getting some 2nd hand re-exposure to the other episodes was good to re-emphasize some stuff.

Spoiler:

This is just nitpicking the things that didn't make sense to me.

I loved her family and friends. They love her and her friends and care deeply about her even though she makes some horrible decisions. Crashing the car was an accident, sure, but the AvengersCon thing was ridiculous. Kamala getting the bangle was a little too random for my tastes. Why did her grandmother ship the only thing she has from her mother over in a box with other random jewelry? Did Kamala's grandmother and mother never try on the bangle before? Was it Kamala's mutation that allowed her to access its power? Would have been nice if the bangle had a note that the grandmother specifically wanted Kamala to have the bangle or something else less random. Iman Vellani did a fine job with the role of Ms Marvel, but I was frustrated with the show's writing. Also, why is every boy smitten with her? Why does Kamala's family focus on Kamala pulling the fire alarm and not the fact that the wedding venue was attacked by superpowered people and swarmed with Damage Control? Why does Damage Control not question everyone at the wedding about why the superpowered bad guys are at the wedding? Why did Kamala and her grandmother both share the vision of the train?

I hated what they did with Damage Control. While it was continuing the direction they took them in SM:NWH, they were portrayed as more incompetent and just generally bad people.

The Clandestine were underdeveloped and poorly executed. Why/when were they exiled? Why do they think they can just go back to their home dimension without getting kicked out again? How did they get exiled without destroying the earth the first time? Did they know that going home would destroy earth? How did the Red Daggers know that the Clandestine would destroy earth if they went home? How do they know where the Red Daggers lair is located? Is it because they can track the bangle? Why/how can they track the bangle? Kamran knows his mother will kill to get the bangle, but he seems to be a pretty normal and well adjusted kid even though he knows his mom is from a different dimension and she is keen to turn to murder if she has to wait for a second to get back home. Why didn't she just kill Kamala when she first met her? She murdered her great-grandmother pretty easily. Why didn't Aisha just give the bangle to Najma? Did she know it would destroy the world? When they first find the bangle Aisha is keen to use it, but I guess she knew it would destroy the world and she liked living in it with her husband and kid. That didn't feel very well explained. Why didn't they just use the bangle as soon as they found it since everyone was in the same place and even if it destroyed earth they didn't seem to care? Najma giving Kamram Noor powers when she died was... stupid. How does that even work? Why can Kamram get Noor powers from his dead mom halfway around the world, but Kamala needs a mutation and a bangle?

It takes around 18+ hours to get from NYC to Karachi and plane tickets, especially last minute ones, can cost between $2,000-$6,000. How were they able to get a window and aisle seat last minute? Kamala's family are not portrayed as rich, so how can they so effortlessly agree to and pay for this EXTREMELY SUDDEN trip, especially after what Kamala did when she went to AvengersCon and just having ruined her brother's wedding? How did the Clandestine get to Karachi so fast after breaking out of Damage Control's facility? Why do her cousins, who she hasn't seen in years, just let her wander off by herself? Most families I know would completely lose their minds if kids let a foreign teenage cousin wander around an unfamiliar city alone. It's absurd that her family would let her go out at night too without realizing she wasn't actually with her cousins.

Keeping Kamram's car makes no sense. At best they could drive it till the inspection/registration is up, but then what do you do? How was the car not repossessed by Damage Control? Where is Bruno living now that the Circle Q was blown up... by Damage Control... who are supposed to clean up messes...not make them...? How did they get the Ms. Marvel costume made and shipped from Pakistan so quickly?



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 Lance845 wrote:
 bbb wrote:
I quit all the Netflix Marvel shows 2 episodes into Defenders. Is Daredevil S3 worth watching? Do I need to subject myself to the rest of the Defenders episodes before I watch Daredevil S3?


S3 is definitely worth watching. It has a great version of Bullseye throwing all kinds of crap in great ways.

You don't need to watch defenders. Super simple. Building collapses at the end and everyone thinks Matt Murdock/Dare Devil died in the collapse. Post credits he wakes up in a church being tended to by a nun. Enter s3.


Thanks! I'll give S3 a shot.

Anything else from the Netflix shows worth watching? I barely made it though Jessica Jones S1 and Iron Fist S1. Luke Cake S1 was okay, but not great.

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I still can't shake the feeling that the head Red Dagger guy made this cool diorama showing the two dimensions and was just itching for an excuse to show the first new person to appear at their HQ.

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I would hope that She-Hulk, using a Ally McBeal style show as reference, will focus on the tropes of an Ally McBeal style show.

That means a focus on lawyering, fashion, and the latest relationship chaos. Basically, a primetime version of Guiding Light*, because you have to also add Supers to the mix.



* Guiding light- The craziest of the Soap Operas as it featured plot lines about alien abductions, witches, and all sorts of zaniness with the relationship chaos!

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I still can't shake the feeling that the head Red Dagger guy made this cool diorama showing the two dimensions and was just itching for an excuse to show the first new person to appear at their HQ.


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Spoiler:


So any idea who's 'driving' the other vehicle in this She-Hulk clip?

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She-Hulk, episode 1.

Bloody enjoyed that. Solid exposition, and a fun vibe.

Oh, post credits scene too.

   
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Enjoyed it. And yeah, make sure you catch the end credits scene, it has very important revelations.

 
   
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Really good. Excited for the next episodes. Post credits is hilarious.


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Voss wrote:

Now, Clint Barton, Agent of SHIELD (Hydra)? He probably did murder innocents. Strange how that doesn't need redemption (though admittedly that would make for a terrible MCU and repeat DC's worst mistakes)


The MCU is always clearly the threat justifies the action, and if the government tells you to do it, it isn't really your fault...


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Wait. Just realised that list is entirely US shows, which makes me seem a culture snob. For my next trick, I’ll poo on U.K. shows.


I see you are a big naked attraction fan.


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 bbb wrote:
I quit all the Netflix Marvel shows 2 episodes into Defenders. Is Daredevil S3 worth watching? Do I need to subject myself to the rest of the Defenders episodes before I watch Daredevil S3?


But you would be missing whatever it is Ironfirst and the other ones do. And dinosaur bones or something. I liked Daredevil when it was blind catholic secretly enjoys maiming people. I liked Punisher when it was kill them all, twice. The rest not so hot on.


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 ZergSmasher wrote:
I finally got around to watching Ms. Marvel; it's the first of the MCU shows that I didn't watch each episode as soon as it came out. Overall, it was kind of meh for me. Probably my least favorite of the shows so far. The visual styles and everything were interesting, but otherwise it was very forgettable. Here's hoping She-Hulk is better.


The visual style was better done in the brilliant (if you have a daughter) The Mitchells vs. the Machines...

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 Ghaz wrote:
Spoiler:


So any idea who's 'driving' the other vehicle in this She-Hulk clip?


It's a Saakaran ship supposedly, so it probably means something for Hulk specifically, not sure if they're trying to introduce Skaar somehow.

Also, I'm not a big fan with how they focused on talking about Steve Roger's sex life, don't get why it makes a difference though. Pretty sure no sex before marriage was still a big thing at that time and Steve probably wouldn't care about being a virgin because he would want to find his ideal wife (which he did), so why would it matter?

Moreover, I don't get why the current trend of marvel humour is mocking people for things that went out of fashion as topics of ridicule years ago. These things were seen as funny then we realised they weren't but now they're being used against different groups of people we are supposed to find them hilarious? Thor being stripped and demeaned (with his friend insulting his junk) but sexualising women like black widow is bad? Steve Rogers' sex life is a joke but laughing about the number of sexual partners of a female hero would be disgraceful? Thor using a prosthetic eye that had been in someone's butt - possible gay panic and disabled mockery anyone? Why haven't we moved past this crap?

What next? Will they mock hulk/banner for his arm being disabled (something which comes and goes in the shehulk clips)? Marvel isn't worth watching anymore if they keep this up.

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Sounds like they took the tropes out of Ali McBeal and applied them to a Super to me. Those are all about speculating and making fun of other people's sex life......

However, I have not seen She-Hulk or the latest Thor film.

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Give it a watch, it’s really good.

   
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Oof, that was pretty bad. Hoping the next episode will be more my jam but the first episode absolutely does not inspire confidence.
   
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Pretty sure Clint is personally wracked with guilt considering the whole "I am not a person. I am a weapon." bit.

I don't think he considers his time with shield to be him being innocent. He sees himself in Echo. A person working for the Kingpin and absolutely hurting innocents.


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didn't care for it, will get round to it at some point but got a lot of Netflix to binge for the 1 month sub I picked up for Sandman, and by then hopefully Only Murders S2 will all be up (weekly drip is grumplatling !)

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Enjoyed She-Hulk. Looking forward to next episode.
   
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 Grimskul wrote:

Also, I'm not a big fan with how they focused on talking about Steve Roger's sex life, don't get why it makes a difference though. Pretty sure no sex before marriage was still a big thing at that time and Steve probably wouldn't care about being a virgin because he would want to find his ideal wife (which he did), so why would it matter?


It's about establishing one of Jennifer's personality quirks. In the comics she's also the type to ask Sue if EVERYTHING stretches.
   
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And as its her show nobody gets to call her out on it

"Steve told me girls didn't look at him twice till the Serum turned him into the Aryan wet dream, which kind of puts that whole lady good guy detection prowess below an old German scientist and a magic hammer"

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The fourth wall?! Shattered!

Seriously, is that the first time in the MCU that they’ve acknowledged it?

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 Jadenim wrote:
The fourth wall?! Shattered!

Seriously, is that the first time in the MCU that they’ve acknowledged it?


Yes. The Deadpool crowd have their undies in a bunch.
   
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You know, I have seen the people criticizing the stuff about She Hulk talking about if Cap is a virgin.

And it reminds me of this.




Coupled with the actual tabloid bs in the real world about who is dating who and who cheated on who and blah blah blah...


It is incredibly benign to have She Hulk question whether Steve got laid versus past characters who questioned other characters actual genitalia.

This would be a text book definition of a double standard.

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Watched She Hulk, and is certainly a lot of fun. I look forward to seeing what the rest of the season was like. I really enjoyed the Banter between Jenn and Bruce.



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 Lance845 wrote:
You know, I have seen the people criticizing the stuff about She Hulk talking about if Cap is a virgin.

And it reminds me of this.




Coupled with the actual tabloid bs in the real world about who is dating who and who cheated on who and blah blah blah...


It is incredibly benign to have She Hulk question whether Steve got laid versus past characters who questioned other characters actual genitalia.

This would be a text book definition of a double standard.


I forgot where Mallrats was a Disney owned Marvel property. Like has to be like to apply a double standard.

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Its AoS, it doesn't have to make sense.
 
   
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The double standard isn't on disney. Its on the people criticizing it.


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 Lance845 wrote:
The double standard isn't on disney. Its on the people criticizing it.


Comparing a mainline Disney Marvel show to Kevin Smith toilet humor is the problem. One actually HAD standards.

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 Jadenim wrote:
The fourth wall?! Shattered!

Seriously, is that the first time in the MCU that they’ve acknowledged it?


They flirted with it a little in WandaVision, when they're riffing on the Modern Family interviews (shame the end of the show fell off, but the reveal of who Wanda's actually speaking to was terrific)
   
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 Jadenim wrote:
The fourth wall?! Shattered!

Seriously, is that the first time in the MCU that they’ve acknowledged it?


Actually, no. Wanda broke the fourth wall in Multiverse of Madness, but it's so quick you'd likely miss it. There is a brief moment she stares directly into the camera. This was to signify that she senses ALL the multiverse, even ours.
   
 
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