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I mean I've probably left my 'megabuilds' cause over time I've gotten better at building and I don't like the look of my old styles, and as we progress overtime our older mega builds which were cool lose their value to us. We need to move on, and I get the protectionism on older builds but some of these builds are empty builds of people who haven't even logged in regularly for the past four years... but we don't need to have them on the server these builds.

We can always back them up and people can have that as a private server on their own machine. Most of us currently do not use the multiplayer aspect at all on the server, I would love to have a more active community more but I am so far away I can't make it to spawn without considerable effort. Which is a thing that I studied in college which is community interaction creates more opportunity and engagement between members of the community. If you have more engagement the more likely people are going to play with each other. If you don't people get bored and leave. Megabuilds are cool if they serve a purpose and right now we have a ton of megabuilds by people who don't play anymore. When was the last time the titan on the server was touched? When was the last time the mansion even visited? When was last time anyone visited or even repaired sururbia?

We don't, we rarely if ever do stuff together. Last time we did was sururbia on the last server, and when we all built spawn. Plus most of all spawn is the same areas and are from 1.12 (I believe). Whichs means lots of things have not changed there, much of the server still does not have access to the new stone types because of generating before 1.12. Then we have the entirety of spawn island just with no friendly access to any new users. Megabuilds are incredibly intidimating to a new user and the fact that we are so far apart means people who want to interact the community won't ever really be able to.

Just getting up and leaving and getting further and further away from spawn is just really boring and sorta gets rid of our community aspect which is sort of the heart of the game. Yeah, we could continue going on forever into the sunset trying to find new chunks to spawn/exploit and live at. But you can do that on singleplayer world, which is what everyone is doing, and could do relatively easily.

But honestly we've reached the point where people are so far away from each other there is no active community on the Dakkaserver. We've spread out so far there is 0 interaction other than in chat. Reseting won't change that but we have all the news bells and whistles, and we have new areas to explore and new regions. Nothing is being deleted, it is always backed up. If I remember correct we originally discussed a server reset if the caves were going to be updated, which is coming out next year, and at this point minecraft has changed so much it is no longer the same game.

That our spawn and many of the regions on the map itself are still in 1.12 and deserve a refresh entirely. I am for people keeping their builds, but do not hamper it entirely on players who are active all the time on minecraft who want the community aspect but can't because they are so far away from each other because they have to in order to reach the new stuff and materials that are critical to accomplishing new builds.

I only advocate for reset like I do everytime because we have reached the critical point where we are richer than kings and queens, we have resources aplenty and they really do not matter. They don't at all, a simple villager farm can basically pump out every item in the game. Builds especially can be built far quicker, and we have so many new materials that we have to actively hunt for them on the overworld. And infinitely moving onto new chunks and all that just means it takes far longer for me and others to get back to spawn it becomes a chore like it currently is. Right now I am so far away that it takes 25 minutes in the nether to return to spawn, but on the overworld it takes an hour. And thats not fun, We are so far apart it has basically real life travel times and thats a huge issue and has been for a while our great railroad will never pan out because of how far apart we are.

If we were closer and had border like I originally suggested it would allow us to be closer together and we just expand it every update and the server admin just expands if players ask. Not having border just means people go on forever when they really don't need to.

The big thing though is that we allow people to keep items in their ender chests and in their inventories or maybe they get to keep a build. But I think we should limit how much someone can keep we don't need someone to have twenty five mega builds or every single build they have to be kept its unfair and its just lazy on their part especially if they don't play and never login.

So we don't have a repeat of last time which put Darknnit into overtime. I am fine with any approach, but the blanket reset is far more needed as the ocean reset we did has sorta worked but not in every area like we would hope it would. A blanket reset would help us and if you are demovitated by it you can build something just as awesome or more awesome than the builds you had before. We can all pitch in together and build stuff! Thats half the fun its legos in a video game form. Honestly I don't care about my items anymore I have so much that I just laugh as I place down my thousandth diamond block as a decoration.

Its cool to have that history for megabuilds but we don't need those old builds, my old castle is literally desterted I do not go back there at all. I don't care about it anymore because i've explored every area and every cave it feels like, that area can be reset I wouldn't care.

Right now we have active user base of 5 people. And most of those 5 want a reset and have wanted a reset for three years. And we want to be with the Dakka Minecraft community. I understand people who don't want to have a reset, but we have had the same server longer than we have had the last one. It has hit the point where we have to move on, and build something new. I understand if you want to keep your builds, bring that up in the thread. It's just very aggravating to this same song and dance that we have had for so long about a reset. Rip the band aid off, WE need a reset, its been far too long since we had one.

The last time we did, I was in high school, I was 19. I am now a working professional in my late twenties. We need to move on.

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I'm all for a reset, especially when 1.17 comes out. Every time I've logged in over the last few weeks, I've been the only one online, and that's kinda discouraging. I could just be playing singleplayer instead and have easier access to all of the content from the last several updates (has anyone even seen a bee on the server?). If resetting the server and making a big announcement for it here on Dakka helps get more people active, great.

Maybe I just watch too much Hermitcraft, but I'd love an active shopping district where I can have my own little shop and make diamonds.

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 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I'm all for a reset, especially when 1.17 comes out. Every time I've logged in over the last few weeks, I've been the only one online, and that's kinda discouraging. I could just be playing singleplayer instead and have easier access to all of the content from the last several updates (has anyone even seen a bee on the server?). If resetting the server and making a big announcement for it here on Dakka helps get more people active, great.

Maybe I just watch too much Hermitcraft, but I'd love an active shopping district where I can have my own little shop and make diamonds.


I mean diamonds are only good as a currency. But yeah I completely agree. if we announce stuff it might be extremely benefical.

Like Armor Stands, maybe some vanillia tweaks like if half the players are asleep or something it passes the night like we used to have with the ZZZZZ command. Currently it is a bit of a pain to have everyone go to bed.

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 Asherian Command wrote:
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I mean I've probably left my 'megabuilds' cause over time I've gotten better at building and I don't like the look of my old styles, and as we progress overtime our older mega builds which were cool lose their value to us. We need to move on, and I get the protectionism on older builds but some of these builds are empty builds of people who haven't even logged in regularly for the past four years... but we don't need to have them on the server these builds.

We can always back them up and people can have that as a private server on their own machine. Most of us currently do not use the multiplayer aspect at all on the server, I would love to have a more active community more but I am so far away I can't make it to spawn without considerable effort. Which is a thing that I studied in college which is community interaction creates more opportunity and engagement between members of the community. If you have more engagement the more likely people are going to play with each other. If you don't people get bored and leave. Megabuilds are cool if they serve a purpose and right now we have a ton of megabuilds by people who don't play anymore. When was the last time the titan on the server was touched? When was the last time the mansion even visited? When was last time anyone visited or even repaired sururbia?

We don't, we rarely if ever do stuff together. Last time we did was sururbia on the last server, and when we all built spawn. Plus most of all spawn is the same areas and are from 1.12 (I believe). Whichs means lots of things have not changed there, much of the server still does not have access to the new stone types because of generating before 1.12. Then we have the entirety of spawn island just with no friendly access to any new users. Megabuilds are incredibly intidimating to a new user and the fact that we are so far apart means people who want to interact the community won't ever really be able to.

Just getting up and leaving and getting further and further away from spawn is just really boring and sorta gets rid of our community aspect which is sort of the heart of the game. Yeah, we could continue going on forever into the sunset trying to find new chunks to spawn/exploit and live at. But you can do that on singleplayer world, which is what everyone is doing, and could do relatively easily.

But honestly we've reached the point where people are so far away from each other there is no active community on the Dakkaserver. We've spread out so far there is 0 interaction other than in chat. Reseting won't change that but we have all the news bells and whistles, and we have new areas to explore and new regions. Nothing is being deleted, it is always backed up. If I remember correct we originally discussed a server reset if the caves were going to be updated, which is coming out next year, and at this point minecraft has changed so much it is no longer the same game.

That our spawn and many of the regions on the map itself are still in 1.12 and deserve a refresh entirely. I am for people keeping their builds, but do not hamper it entirely on players who are active all the time on minecraft who want the community aspect but can't because they are so far away from each other because they have to in order to reach the new stuff and materials that are critical to accomplishing new builds.

I only advocate for reset like I do everytime because we have reached the critical point where we are richer than kings and queens, we have resources aplenty and they really do not matter. They don't at all, a simple villager farm can basically pump out every item in the game. Builds especially can be built far quicker, and we have so many new materials that we have to actively hunt for them on the overworld. And infinitely moving onto new chunks and all that just means it takes far longer for me and others to get back to spawn it becomes a chore like it currently is. Right now I am so far away that it takes 25 minutes in the nether to return to spawn, but on the overworld it takes an hour. And thats not fun, We are so far apart it has basically real life travel times and thats a huge issue and has been for a while our great railroad will never pan out because of how far apart we are.

If we were closer and had border like I originally suggested it would allow us to be closer together and we just expand it every update and the server admin just expands if players ask. Not having border just means people go on forever when they really don't need to.

The big thing though is that we allow people to keep items in their ender chests and in their inventories or maybe they get to keep a build. But I think we should limit how much someone can keep we don't need someone to have twenty five mega builds or every single build they have to be kept its unfair and its just lazy on their part especially if they don't play and never login.

So we don't have a repeat of last time which put Darknnit into overtime. I am fine with any approach, but the blanket reset is far more needed as the ocean reset we did has sorta worked but not in every area like we would hope it would. A blanket reset would help us and if you are demovitated by it you can build something just as awesome or more awesome than the builds you had before. We can all pitch in together and build stuff! Thats half the fun its legos in a video game form. Honestly I don't care about my items anymore I have so much that I just laugh as I place down my thousandth diamond block as a decoration.

Its cool to have that history for megabuilds but we don't need those old builds, my old castle is literally desterted I do not go back there at all. I don't care about it anymore because i've explored every area and every cave it feels like, that area can be reset I wouldn't care.

Right now we have active user base of 5 people. And most of those 5 want a reset and have wanted a reset for three years. And we want to be with the Dakka Minecraft community. I understand people who don't want to have a reset, but we have had the same server longer than we have had the last one. It has hit the point where we have to move on, and build something new. I understand if you want to keep your builds, bring that up in the thread. It's just very aggravating to this same song and dance that we have had for so long about a reset. Rip the band aid off, WE need a reset, its been far too long since we had one.

The last time we did, I was in high school, I was 19. I am now a working professional in my late twenties. We need to move on.
Spoiler'ed because Wall Of Text, but I agree wholeheartedly with everything you've said here, and me and my duo have had a fraction of the resources you guys have.

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I don't even KNOW anymore.

Are we talking a total wipe, or moving builds from the old to the new? Just want to know how much work I'll have ahead of me.
   
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Thats what we are discussing, I think most of us are fine with some builds being preserved, but only small amounts of builds because we don't want darknnit to have too much work.

I am fine with only like a few megabuilds being preserved, and the upperlayer of spawn being preserved.

But I think it would be more fair if we reserved it for only active users, and not users who have been inactive for years.

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It's a shame there's no way we can help with the work really. There's always a fine balance with this kind of thing.

A lot of my fave build are underground and I would LOVE to connect them to some of the newer cave elements... but it's inherently even tougher to move undergrounds stuff over I believe!

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Yeah lots of builds that go underground sadly will be having lots of issues. So I am fine with a reset as long as I get to keep my storage room and my villager trading hall. And then I can store all my bees as well. (Cause for some reason bees are rarer than diamonds)

So my entire dwarf fortress is probably going to just be the mainhall and the storage facility lol. If not I will move it to the surface. Which I think I have plenty of time to do.

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If Dark decides the world needs a reset it should be put to a vote not have the decision made by the 5 people who no life the game.

 
   
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 Deathklaat wrote:
If Dark decides the world needs a reset it should be put to a vote not have the decision made by the 5 people who no life the game.


Cause we have such no-lifers that they are on almost once a week! Oh my goodness. True no-lifers. /sarcasm

Not really. We can put it up to a vote, but we aren't going to do it on the forum because everytime we do, people who don't even play on the server vote to not do a reset. We've done this three seperate times, and everytime we've had people who don't play the game vote for no reset. When the majority of active users do want a reset. People who have not played the game in years have no say on that. Read what I've already said, I've alread argued this point in my wall of text.

What we need is a vote count done with an accepted whitelist, but we can't access the player lists anymore, because of a 404

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But you don't really get to make the rules now do you? Just because you play more than others does not really entitle you to any more than someone who plays for one day. The server is here for everyone and everyone gets a say.

If that bothers you so much you can feel free to make your own server with your own rules and have people play and chat via discord.

 
   
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 Deathklaat wrote:
But you don't really get to make the rules now do you? Just because you play more than others does not really entitle you to any more than someone who plays for one day. The server is here for everyone and everyone gets a say.

If that bothers you so much you can feel free to make your own server with your own rules and have people play and chat via discord.


Is anything I am saying suggesting different? I am saying we should accept people's votes if they are on the server? And active? So someone from 10 years ago doesn't have much say on what goes on it now? Did you read anything I have said or assume I am elitist when I have advocated for more community driven events?

If someone hasn't been on in on it, or not even on the server they can't vote. Thats it. Thats the only caveat with the discussion. Disincluding people who aren't even on is not going to effect them because aren't on the server. I have my own server, but I want to be dakka's server. There is no reason to be rude. The server is not for everyone because it has a whitelist, we use the whitelist members of active community members. We have many members who don't even login into Dakka Dakka Anymore or even play minecraft anymore. Why should we bow before them like we have previously?

It is entirely up to you if you want your build saved. If you want to play by yourself by my guest, but I am not discussing that, we are talking about the server here and it needs a reset, especially because we have several chunks that are corrupted or have issues. It happens, and a clean reset is good because of how much has changed throughout the games history, and we have not had a reset in years. Please read all of my comments before commenting, if you want to discuss this and put it to a vote we can, but we need to ensure its from people who actually play the game, and not someone who was banned or blacklisted or completely inactive.

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 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I'm all for a reset, especially when 1.17 comes out. Every time I've logged in over the last few weeks, I've been the only one online, and that's kinda discouraging. I could just be playing singleplayer instead and have easier access to all of the content from the last several updates (has anyone even seen a bee on the server?). If resetting the server and making a big announcement for it here on Dakka helps get more people active, great.

Maybe I just watch too much Hermitcraft, but I'd love an active shopping district where I can have my own little shop and make diamonds.


i has bee farm

make a hive, see if your computer can handle my tower breed some bees til yours is full.

or just plant lots of birch trees in a plains biome til you get some



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 Deathklaat wrote:
But you don't really get to make the rules now do you? Just because you play more than others does not really entitle you to any more than someone who plays for one day. The server is here for everyone and everyone gets a say.

If that bothers you so much you can feel free to make your own server with your own rules and have people play and chat via discord.


if they only played for one day, they obviously have no interest in the server so why let them hold us back? maybe a reset would bring them back for a second day

speaking of making the rules though my son told me on sunday we should vote for ownership and he wants to run he's 13, we'll be in good hands

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I play sporadically and seasonally. Played in summer on the server, along with my stepkid who's whitelisted and has a big build they recently started, and played a few sessions with my daughter in spring too (who's been whitelisted almost as long as I have). Next two months is my busiest time for work though so I'm not realistically going to be on again till December, and no, I'm not on the Discord either... still pretty sure my opinion is vaguely valid?

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 Ian Sturrock wrote:
I play sporadically and seasonally. Played in summer on the server, along with my stepkid who's whitelisted and has a big build they recently started, and played a few sessions with my daughter in spring too (who's been whitelisted almost as long as I have). Next two months is my busiest time for work though so I'm not realistically going to be on again till December, and no, I'm not on the Discord either... still pretty sure my opinion is vaguely valid?


Did we say that anywhere?

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I still think a reset would be good, even if there are a few of the more recent megaprojects get kept.

If Dark is willing & able, we could even make it some sort of minigame, that the structures get put out there, somewhere, and we as people have to go out and find them? Encourage exploration and world regeneration, while retaining all of the work that went into those specific projects.

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I haven't played minecraft in ages, but if there is a reset, would it be possible to get a download of the map just for old times sake?

I do think if you're going to a reset, wipe the map and start fresh, this idea of "more fair if we reserved it for only active users, and not users who have been inactive for years" is unfair, as you'd be giving people a head start just for the fact they play more. I know I'd be less inclined to play if others had a head start because of that.

   
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 Asherian Command wrote:


Did we say that anywhere?


Apologies if I'm misinterpreting the sentiment -- but I am not sure that I am, honestly? I mean, do clarify, if I really am? Last couple of pages mostly seem to be some or other variation of "tear it all down, lots of you old-timers aren't playing every day, some of you aren't even on the Discord!"

I am really looking forward to playing with the new toys. Just hoping for some balance, here.

Maybe we can all offer to donate something to the server costs and/or Dark's fave charity as a thank-you for the work involved in transferring over our builds?

Anyway. I DO enjoy playing with others -- the broader multiplayer community aspect. I've shown people round my big builds, and gaped in awe and wonder on being shown round theirs... can't we keep some of that without descending into suggestions that some members of the community's opinions deserve more weight than others? 'Cos I am DEFINITELY getting a lot of that sentiment here.

Minecraft is a game that people pick up and put down. That's a big part of the appeal. This thread over the years has at least as many posts saying "hey I'm back after a year off, whassup" as anything else. Let's not assume that just because someone hasn't been online for a year or two that they're never coming back and don't care about the builds they put hundreds or thousands of hours into.

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I didn't even know there was a Discord? Could someone PM me the server link please?

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As above, I didn't know there was one!

   
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 Tyranid Horde wrote:
I haven't played minecraft in ages, but if there is a reset, would it be possible to get a download of the map just for old times sake?

I do think if you're going to a reset, wipe the map and start fresh, this idea of "more fair if we reserved it for only active users, and not users who have been inactive for years" is unfair, as you'd be giving people a head start just for the fact they play more. I know I'd be less inclined to play if others had a head start because of that.


to be honest though, some people are never coming back. they came, they did stuff, they left. I think the idea is, let those who are still playing and intending to play on the server again, vote. let's have a open vote so people who don't even play minecraft can't sneak into the poll and vote.

a head start would be letting me bring my ender chest to the new server it would be filled with shulkers and my tool shop would be working on day 1 playing more isn't a head start, it's just Time Plus Effort Equals Success.

 
   
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See I would love to invite people to the discord but I don't have that power, you hav eto ask Darknnit let me see if I can find an invite link.


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"tear it all down, lots of you old-timers aren't playing every day, some of you aren't even on the Discord!"

Not exactly what I am talking about.

This thread over the years has at least as many posts saying "hey I'm back after a year off, whassup" as anything else. Let's not assume that just because someone hasn't been online for a year or two that they're never coming back and don't care about the builds they put hundreds or thousands of hours into.


We aren't talking about people who haven't played in a few months but years and years of time. Read my full comment before you post saying what I didn't say. I literally said

I understand people who don't want to have a reset, but we have had the same server longer than we have had the last one. It has hit the point where we have to move on, and build something new. I understand if you want to keep your builds, bring that up in the thread. It's just very aggravating to this same song and dance that we have had for so long about a reset. Rip the band aid off, WE need a reset, its been far too long since we had one.


IF we cater to everyone who could potentially return to the game then we will never reset, I am just saying we not do it on the forum and instead somewhere else, we have a full year to decide on this, do not worry about it.

IF you are in support of a reset please say so, if not please say why not.

if you want to discuss this and put it to a vote we can, but we need to ensure its from people who actually play the game, and not someone who was banned or blacklisted or completely inactive.


I want a full reset and for everyone to keep all items in their inventories and ender chests. That is completely fine. If someone wants to make a special deal with darknnit about keeping a build please post about it. Lets organize this, and we can meet in the middle for this.

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Asherian -- I did read everything, a couple of times. I don't really want to get into "he-said, she-said". I'm also looking for compromise.

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 Ian Sturrock wrote:
Asherian -- I did read everything, a couple of times. I don't really want to get into "he-said, she-said". I'm also looking for compromise.


I want a full reset and for everyone to keep all items in their inventories and ender chests. That is completely fine. If someone wants to make a special deal with darknnit about keeping a build please post about it. Lets organize this, and we can meet in the middle for this.


We are in agreement then!

We will make a form of something to discuss it and basically have everyone in on it to gauge it and vote, but I think most people are fine with a reset with some caveats.

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I might be a bit of a hoarder but I kinda wanna keep all my builds, though!

They all still get used...

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 Ian Sturrock wrote:
I might be a bit of a hoarder but I kinda wanna keep all my builds, though!

They all still get used...
That's the difference though. I'm willing to bet 85-90% of the megastructures on the server aren't used anymore.

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Yeah I do hear you. Though it might be nice to have a Dakka Server History Theme Park zone that the big surface ones get moved to, if that's not horribly difficult.

Personally I'd be up for chipping in some dosh for server costs / Dark's fave charity / whatever just 'cos I've had so much fun on this server over the past near-decade!

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Just to throw my 2cents in to the conversation:

I'd be in favour of a reset if there is a major change to world generation (which it sounds like there is going to be eventually), mostly because as has been mentioned trying to get to new things takes a lot of travel time now. I still remember the prolonged time I spent trying to find bees way back when...

However, as a player who does dip in and out a lot due to real world commitments (I know I've been on this year a few times, but can't remember when I last was) part of what brings me back is getting to tinker on my long term builds and projects that I have on the current world. If there was a complete wipe of everything (whether inventories are kept or not) it would probably not encourage me to come back onto the server much (if at all if I'm honest) as I'd be starting again from near scratch and I don't have the time I did to dedicate to large builds or playtime as I did in my teenage/early 20s when I was most active.

I'd be in favour of people getting to have a build moved over to a new world though, so that those of us who have attachment to certain projects wouldn't be faced with losing that. Maybe have it so that old projects have to be in a certain radius around spawn, or in one cardinal map direction? That way there is plenty of space for everything who wants to start from new to go off and explore without running into those builds that have been brought over?

I can see the arguments on both sides, as i guess we all get slightly different things out of the dakka server which is probably why I've sunk more time onto Minecraft with all of you than single player

But anyway, that's my thoughts for what they contribute to the conversation

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 Storm Lord wrote:
Just to throw my 2cents in to the conversation:

I'd be in favour of a reset if there is a major change to world generation (which it sounds like there is going to be eventually), mostly because as has been mentioned trying to get to new things takes a lot of travel time now. I still remember the prolonged time I spent trying to find bees way back when...

However, as a player who does a dip in and out a lot due to real-world commitments (I know I've been on this year a few times, but can't remember when I last was) part of what brings me back is getting to tinker on my long term builds and projects that I have on the current world. If there was a complete wipe of everything (whether inventories are kept or not) it would probably not encourage me to come back onto the server much (if at all if I'm honest) as I'd be starting again from near scratch and I don't have the time I did to dedicate to large builds or playtime as I did in my teenage/early 20s when I was most active.

I'd be in favor of people getting to have a build moved over to a new world though so that those of us who have an attachment to certain projects wouldn't be faced with losing that. Maybe have it so that old projects have to be in a certain radius around spawn, or in one cardinal map direction? That way there is plenty of space for everything who wants to start from new to go off and explore without running into those builds that have been brought over?

I can see the arguments on both sides, as i guess we all get slightly different things out of the dakka server which is probably why I've sunk more time onto Minecraft with all of you than single player

But anyway, that's my thoughts for what they contribute to the conversation


Completely fine with that, people can keep their stuff, and if someone returns to the server they can ask Darknnit if they can have their stuff moved over which I think is a possibility.

I don't want to do another vote until like a few more months have passed. I do think that most people who are very active should at least agree to limit what is brought over for themselves Like mega projects should stay, but underground megaprojects might be harder to keep. So that means my fortress is probably not going to be saved which I am fine with. As long as I get to keep all my shulker boxes and all my other items I want to keep for the coming update in June / July.

I actually really like the idea of placing all the older stuff in a certain direction. so that way there is always new chunks in a certain direction but a world border might be very useful as I suggested before as a way to limit it so players aren't generating thousands of blocks when they don't need to. We can always expand or decrease / increase the border as needed. Its always been a very interesting feature. Plus we have a few command blocks on the server anyway, we need to fix up how sleep works cause most times people log off so others can pass through the night anyway, so adding in a vanillia tweaks that allows if there is half the server sleeping it will pass the night. Along with some name tag features which allows us to silence mobs. They are mods just easy fixes that Mojang hasn't put in offically yet.

Not even mentioning we have fully explored the end. It takes hours for people to find stuff there and not even mentioning all the corrupted chunks in the end and on the overworld as well. Which happens over time with older servers.


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So how are we going to vote?

Using google form, we are going to require everyone to use their minecraft ID that is whitelisted on Dakka Minecraft. So if your name is not from the server whitelist you won't be counted.

Then we will be voting based on the types of reset.

So for this I have a few votes and suggestions of what they are from what I've read here. Heres what I come up with. We can discuss how we want to deliever this to everyone. Always open to more suggestions here!

How would you like to Reset the Dakka Minecraft Server?

Hard Reset (World / Character Reset) Everything is reset.
Mix Reset (World Reset) Ender Chest / Inventories and mega builds are saved for the world. Limit on how many builds are saved per a player to be voted on.
Soft Reset (World Reset) Ender Chest / Inventories kept.
No Reset ( No Resets at all) Everything stays the same world edges are completely reset and is done by player by player basis.


World Border at 15k x 35k blocks (Nether / Overworld Only)

No World Border
Yes World Border
Mixed block border for newer chunks to spawn

Vanillia Tweaks (https://vanillatweaks.net/)

Yes
No

Keep Netherhub center location?

Yes
No

Reset Spawn?

Yes
No

Spawn Biome?

Need Suggestions of seeds

Should all mega builds be placed in a central column facing a cardinal direction so that all mega builds are placed so as to allow for players to always have a direction to go in that will always have newer chunks?

Yes
No


How many megabuilds should be saved per a player?

1

2

3

4

All builds are saved unless asked not to.

The Dakka Currency, which currency should be used in our shopping district?

Diamonds
Emeralds
Copper

Should we have a shopping district at Spawn?

Y
N

Should we redo Sururbia to be around spawn instead of random?

Y
N

What types of community projects would we be willing to do?
(Short Answer)


For Spawn suggestions of where spawn should start, I suggest we use the Mushroom island for the main spawn as that will allow us to have an extremely safe spawn to build at. We preserve the Dakka Sign, and the center tiles / the duckanaut. I think completely redoing spawn wouldn't be too difficult to do as long as we get to keep our ender chests and inventories.

So for people who want a hard reset for themselves I am wondering if we all can agree on some simple things.

What should be saved for the reset?

Ender Chests
Inventories
Ender Chests & Inventories


I am always looking for suggestions for this so we have a good idea of what to do next.

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