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This is written for the new book, using the current costs.

Lysander is S10 w/ +1 to terrain. Maybe other bonuses too?

Lysander
Reclusiarch w/ Terminator Armour and Storm Bolter
1x 10x Terminator Command w/ 2x AC

1x 10x Sternguard
Maybe a couple Power Fists

2x 10x Tactical Squads
1x HB, 1x Flamer
Veteran w/ Power Fist and Combi-Flamer (Might lose the Fists if they are 25 points)

1x 10x Devastator Squad
4x Lascannons

1x 10x Devastator Squad
4x Missile Launchers

I might replace the Sternguard with ... ???

Razorbacks?

Also I could take only 6 Terminators, or split the squad and lose the Chaplain. Or add a Librarian.

You guys aren't very helpful.

62 models. Yay.

I was thinking two boxes of Devastators and split the weapons, so the other Spase Marinez!!!! army will get the Plasma Cannons. Multimeltas I'll probably convert something and/or bitz box.

I just don't know. But I wouldn't mind a smallish army that was easy to use for a beginner.

I know the point of the list is to over whelm with Thunder Hammers (which I love) but I just don't see the point of having a 10 man unit with Lysander.

What do you except to hit with that?

Maybe split it a little,
And maybe even take a crusader to actually take them into combat.

It's a shooty squad they will just march down laying fire. Someone reminded in the other thread they get Bolter Drill to boot so maybe take Cyclones if they can keep their Storm Bolters.

I am actually looking at maybe Ultras. I just don't know.

hey sorry for the dumb questino but what are sternguard?

Veterans.

i like it, ok, so they arent the fastest army, but it has a solid base, goof fire for killing troop and armour, and it has a nasty impact in CC.
and i woulkd throw in a rhino or 2 instead of razorbacks, cheaper, and since the army is fairly slow use the rhinos to block, just keep them in front and use them as a portable shield

"Hmmmm".

I never really liked razor backs anyways. so mabye you should get just one rhino for your tactical squad and beef up one of your squads

They are only 35 points.

Maybe from 1500 to 2000 I will add a Vindicator and two Land Raiders, assuming the Sternguard can take them as transports.