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This is an inquiry, actually. Just how useful are Chaos Warriors at 14+ pts a model, and what sizes should the be fielded in, if at all?

I've played against relatively few Chaos armies, mostly Marauders and Beastmen - no Chaos Warriors. I just like the models, and wonder if they're worth it. I look at most of the Chaos lists I come up with and fail to see how it isn't hopelessly outnumbered and outshot by my Skaven lists. I know that's mostly because I have a ten year relationship with my rats, and know little of the ways of Chaos.

Although neat little groups of twelve 'Chaos' Warriors seem a whole lot less chaotic than most of my slave packs...

Anyway, I'm interested in playing a ground-based Tzeentch magic-heavy army, with an armoured core. If anyone can suggest any configurations, I'd appreciate it.

Come on! What, is that just an unplayable combination or something?

Relax, this isn't a chat room. And yeah, warriors are largely useless. Too slow to do much. Small blocks with halberds or GWs and maybe Mark of Khorne are okay, I guess. Chariots, knights, etc. are better hitters, though. Do remember that Tzeentch sucks now and is just a 6+ WS, not PD.

I disagree with the above comment. My Nurgle army is very effective. I have 3 - 20 man units of chaos warriors (60 total) that is flanked by 5 chosen knights and 20 marauders and a Chaos Giant. I give my BSB the Banner of The Gods and keep everything close. A fear-causing stubborn army works out well for me. I have my lord on foot and a exalted champion with the unit of chaos knights. With the characters in the unit to add some hitting power, I can normally run off most opponents no prob. All i need is to win by a couple of points on CR and that's an outnumbered by fear causing test, baby! (provided i do actually outnumber them). I've been playing this army for a while and I really enjoy the way it works. IMO, i dont think Marauders are worth anything. If i could sub them out for something better, I would. However, they tend to not run either because they are stubborn, too! My two coppers.

Oh BTW, all of my chaos warriors are hand weapon/shield. 3+ in HTH. Like I said, the extra push over the top is usually provided by the characters, anything the warriors do is icing on the cake.

orki, i love marauders, cheap and cheerful.
give them flails and you have cheap shock troops.
warriors are good, but only a few units, youcan have too many.
and knights are always good, aginst elf barely anything can hurt them.

and orki,what do you do in the even of playing a gunline empire army?

I've had to stare down the gunline before. It's no easy task. Sometimes you just have to take your lumps. Although, when I get there. I'll take 9 warriors and an exalted champion against just about any empire troop in CC any day of the week, twice on saturdays! My marauders do have flails, they aren't as bad as I'm making them out to be. I just really like the warriors. An all warrior army, that would rock.