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My enternal debate to return to my beloved dark angels or to go ultra . Well this is what i came up with for my 1500pt list for a tornement that will have progressivly larger lists up to an apoc game.

HQ
Commander
powerfist

Troop
10 Marines
flamer
lascannon
powerfist

10 Marines
flamer
lascannon
Powerfist

10 Marines
Missle Launcher
flamer
powerfist
Rhino

5 terminators
landrader crusader transport

10 Devestator
2 Missle Launchers
2 Plasma cannons

open to riddicule/ suggestions.

K why did you take Flamer with Lascannon's should do Plasma. then you could maybe do combat squads.

Is that why you took flamers to do a combat squad.

Dont have a lot of Marines at 1500. Should just count them as dark angels and use the new codex. DA rules suck to a degree.

Anything else I will switch the flamer to plasma gun or cannon? And yea I was debating about the new Marines vs. the DA it really dosnt matter a whole lot I just realized how hard it is to take out a Land raider nowadays. I normally play shooty style and tent to hang back but that dosnt work in todays 5th ed world of objective games.

I would just switch out the commander for belial with twin lightning claws, ic's are generally a bad thing to give powerfists too. Put him with the termie squad, if you do use the dark angel list I would suggest a 2 Thunder hammers, 2 LC's and an assault cannon for the termies.

If you do not use the DA list I would give the commander a relic blade&storm shield and making the termies assault termies, with 3 thunder hammers/stormshield and 2 Twin LC's. The +3 inv from the shield make them the Ideal sponge for the heavy weapon wounds. I am not all that sold on devastator squads lately but maybe they will do well for you(I usually use them for horde control with 4 hvy bolters.) I would suggest you switch out the las cannon/flame and go with metla multimelta so your tacs can have good anti-vehicle. And they are very cheap in the new Space marine codex.

Yea my big question is how badly i am gonna be out numbered. Really anymore numbers seem to play a big role anymore. The Dev squad is actually really good for me in my past 5 games.