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All the other weapons options availiable to the warlord titan are pretty self-explanatory - but I've no idea what the quake cannon is, and how it functions. Why, for example, does it have 50% again the range of a volcano cannon (something you would expect to have unlimited range in the first place)? The illustration in the apocalypse rulebook shows it as a rather unremarkable looking gun, except for having a barrel you could comfortably stroll down.

Obviously it's name implies something to do with earthquakes, but apart from that I know nothing. Can dakka shed any light on this weapon?

Well, I'm not with my book so I can't referenace it right now to be sure, but I seem to recall one of the Engines in Titanicus using it's quake cannon, then one of the crew commenting about their target not appreciating digging through molten lava.

I'd personally except the Volcano cannon to shoot lava, but if the quake cannon does it, that'd be cool also.

Ah, that's interesting. I'd have picked up Titanicus already if not for the outrageous cost (no offence Abnet, but you aren't worth £18).

The volcano cannon I'm sure is a laser weapon (bear in mind the Shadowsword tank has one) - cool as a magma gun would be. So far as I can tell the quake cannon seems to be just a giant artillery piece - albeit one that might be designed to damage a planet's crust, causing earthquakes and possibly lava to rise to the surface. Thanks for your input, Feor!

Yeah, the Quake Cannon is just a really big cannon. Back in the days of Epic: Space Marine the Volcano Cannon had a 3+ to hit and a -4ASM, while the Quake Cannon had 3+ to hit and -3ASM and a barrage marker, which meant it could be used to take out buildings.

a volcano cannon is supposed to be a titain killer, a very concentrated beam of energy that can blow limbs of the things in one shot (not just a big template like we have now).

a quake cannon is supposed to be a massive cannon, launching massive shells (or something similar) at the target and having a large blast radius.

Generic huge cannon it is. Thanks guys!

The Dreadnote wrote:Generic huge cannon it is. Thanks guys!

Seems like a Battlecannon with 'roid rage to me.

Once upon a long, long ago the weapon was originally named the Macro Cannon (see 1st Ed 40K). Then in Adeptus Titanicus it eventually became known as the Quake cannon.

GW basically wanted to make the weapon sound cooler, and then they tweaked the stats a bit.

As has been already mentioned, it is another BFG for 40K.

Dhugs wrote:Once upon a long, long ago the weapon was originally named the Macro Cannon (see 1st Ed 40K). Then in Adeptus Titanicus it eventually became known as the Quake cannon.

GW basically wanted to make the weapon sound cooler, and then they tweaked the stats a bit.

As has been already mentioned, it is another BFG for 40K.

I sure do miss Space Marine/Titan Legions...

According to Space Marine (2nd edition), "The Quake Cannon is a large bore cannon which fires an extremely powerful explosive shell. A hit from a Quake Cannon can burst apart even the most resilient armour or building."

Of course, in the next edition of EPIC, the Quake Cannon become a "BIG GUN" (instead of just a "GUN").

And that was, for the most part, the end of Epic...

It's like an Earthshaker cannon, but bigger!

I also think the Volcano cannon is something like the lascannon writ large, but the Turbolaser Destroyer is probably more along the lines of lasgun evolution.

Doesn't the hierarchy go:

Laspistol
Lasgun
Hellgun
Lascannon/Multi-Laser
Laser Destroyer/Rapier
Turbo-Laser Destructor
Volcano Cannon
Defence Laser
Lance

BYE

That sounds quite plausible, by Lance I assume you mean ship-based Lance weapons in BFG?

If memory serves, the Quake part of the cannon's name referred to the earthquake-like concussion of the shells impact. As has already been stated, it's a tweaked Macro Cannon from Rogue Trader

HBMC has just reminded me:

In old epic, a Volcano cannon was a defense laser.

Does anyone else remember the Laser Burner (it was a Titan CC weapon that nobody took 'cos Power fists and Chainfists looked cooler on the model...)

I do!

It was rather nasty in CC but, as you mentioned, looked kinda lame compared to other options.

The Corvus (?) Assault Pod was a neat idea too.

One of my favorites was the Trident/Harpoon (?) which had a chance to take over the enemy Titan, I think?

Chimera_Calvin wrote:HBMC has just reminded me:

In old epic, a Volcano cannon was a defense laser.

Yeah, a defense laser is basically a volcano cannon with an AA mount and targeting system.

Does anyone else remember the Laser Burner (it was a Titan CC weapon that nobody took 'cos Power fists and Chainfists looked cooler on the model...)

Yeah, one of my Warlords has one of those, because I don't have any chainfists or power fists.

Really?

The Imperator, if memory serves me correctly, had a Defence Laser on its back, yes? I always thought that Defence Lasers were more than Volcano Cannons because Defence Lasers were used to take out starships. They were supposed to be massive things in silos, which is why the Imperator having one was such a big deal.

And speaking of the Imperator:

The Hellstorm Cannon - projectile or energy weapon?

BYE

I'm going back to Adeptus Titanicus days with that one - the name 'Volcano Cannon' (which to this day I think sounds lame) was not yet a twinkling in the designers eye.

The idea was that Titans were so massive they could mount planetary defense weapponry and then shoot it at each other (kind of like in WW2 when the Wehrmacht realised they could stop pointing their 88 flak guns at planes and started pointing them at tanks instead).


As for the Helstorm - it was a projectile weapon (think multi-barrelled macro/quake cannon). The Plasma Annihilator was the energy weapon.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Really?

The Imperator, if memory serves me correctly, had a Defence Laser on its back, yes? I always thought that Defence Lasers were more than Volcano Cannons because Defence Lasers were used to take out starships. They were supposed to be massive things in silos, which is why the Imperator having one was such a big deal.

"The Shadow Sword's main armament is a huge laser cannon called a Volcano Cannon, a weapon so powerful that others like it are used to defend planets against attacks from space, firing through the atmosphere against drop ships and low-orbiting space ships." -Armies of the Imperium, p. 55.

"[Defence Lasers] are sometimes seen on the battlefield stripped down and mounted on Battle Titans as main weapons, in which capacity they are commonly known as Volcano Cannons" -Titan Legions Rule Book, p. 44.

The stat lines for the Volcano Cannon is identical to the Imperator's Defense Laser, except the Defense Laser has snap fire (overwatch, basically).

That damned Imperator provoked more heated arguments over the gaming table than any other miniature. I once got so frustrated that I smashed mind with a lacrosse stick. I had a temper back then...

Chimera_Calvin wrote:
As for the Helstorm - it was a projectile weapon (think multi-barrelled macro/quake cannon). The Plasma Annihilator was the energy weapon.

The Hellstorm appears twice in canon. In the 2nd edition Titan Legions it is a gatling quake cannon, you had specified ammo reserves for the gun.

The only other appearance is in the IG base defence scenario of Dawn of War: Dark Crusade, where it is depicted as multi barrelled energy weapon.

The weapons look the same but it is clear to me at least that the gun from Dawn of War is the plasma annihilator, the other primary weapon of an Imperator titan.

The thing about Battle Fleet Gothic lances is that they tend to be mounted in turrets of two or three, so it's not so much that lances are scaled up lasers, as they are an abstract way for dealing with turrets full of gigantic lasers.

Speaking of various patterns of Titan, I think it would be very cool to see an Imperator Titan re-modeled in a similar manner to the modern Warlord Titan.

Final Liberation definitely suggests a giant cannon, even if you don't think it's... canon.

A quake Cannon has A range of 180 inches Strength 9 Ordanince 1 and 10 inch Blast