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Guess I'll skip the season 3 starter also.

Also more Mutant Aelves.

Look like post-apocalyptic Aelves are mutants. Hopefully the DoK team I will get to see a 2019 non-mutant Witch Aelf.

 Crimson wrote:
The hair is the best part! Satyr legs always look a bit weird, and these are not an exception. The middle one looks particularly odd to me, but perhaps it is just the angle.

It's the "dynamicism". The scenery they're mounted on isn't facing the camera at the best angle and it makes it look hinky.

I wonder if these will be a full AOS faction eventually, or at least full new units for Wood Elves?

I doubt they'll show up with Wanderers, seeing as how Wanderers are being jammed into the Free Cities book.

I love that the helmet on the Centaur seems to match the Wild Riders' standard topper.

I’m... not a fan. I’ve really liked what AoS has done with elves (sorry, aelves) so far, but that hair!

Also, it’ll look weird to put the city boards next to forest boards.

Blah. Mediocre beasts (and no centigor) and dopey elf hybrids that look like they were designed thirty years ago. Hard pass.

I’m not a fan of the aelves really, and the beasts are okay, but no more than that.

Neither side is really my style, but I'm happy to see they're breaking away from the Nagaash centered setting.

Really like this set, haven't bothered with the game upto now, but like the idea of opposing beastmen and beastelf , models are nice too, this will be my first leap into Underworld .

Looks like they reassigned Underworlds to the junior sculptor team.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Looks like they reassigned Underworlds to the junior sculptor team.

They seem to be trying to make larger warbands while still keeping them contained to relatively tiny sprues. The base for the centaur alone probably eats up a quarter of a Shadespire era box.

I want to like them, but they're just AWFUL! It's like they took the worst aspects of wood elves and the worst aspects of beastment, posed them in awkward dancey-prancey "action" poses and said "Yup, that steaming pile of mess looks like what we want, ship it!"

Doubly dismaying because they did such a great job on the Blood Bowl elves, the Elven Union was amazing, the Dark Elves were great, the Wood Elves are (mostly) great

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 Kanluwen wrote:

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 porkuslime wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Was a level to order mine today from Barnes and Nobles $49.95 real money (USD) freeshipping and got 15% for first time order. They also had combat arena available for $39.95.

I don’t know how long they’ve had them on site to order, so sorry if others have already said this.

Dreadfane or something else?

I also am curious.. was in an instock item, or a preorder

Yep, Dreadfane, didn’t say preorder. Shows 3-5 day shipping, got my confirmation and it doesn’t say anything about a preorder release day, so I’m expecting it this weekend. I checked Combat arena and no local B&N had it instock, but it could order it.


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Just checked the website again, says order today and guaranteed by August 5th.
https://m.barnesandnoble.com/w/toys-games-warhammer-underworlds-dreadfane/33834796?ean=5011921124282

Interesting because I'm looking at it and both say this:

Publication date: 08/31/2019

Not available for Buy Online, Pick up in Store. May be available for in-store purchase.

So you might be able to order them...but you'll be waiting a bit.

Ordered on my mobile device, doesn’t show publication date. Used full website and see the publication date now, but it wouldn’t be the first time that publication date was wrong. They’ve had production models since the toy fair and the models are the same as the ones from Storm Strike. If it isn’t for another month I have plenty to keep me busy until then.

Got my shipping notice today , so end of the month general release, but B&N got a early release online. Limited qty.

I like them.
The fourth Beast Elf along does look a bit weird, but I'm going to assume he's in one of those poses that never photographs well.

Definitely the first major miss in the line for me (and I just occasionally buy Shadespire stuff for using the minis in other games). The Elves look like some awful 1990's cartoon, and the Beastmen look fine, while the new Ungors look...derpy? Maybe it's just the painting or something, but both sides of this box are just not superb. I'm really sad as I love beastmen and thus far the Shadespire sculpted boxes have been pretty good (excluding the major AoS factions).

 Kalamadea wrote:
I want to like them, but they're just AWFUL! It's like they took the worst aspects of wood elves and the worst aspects of beastment, posed them in awkward dancey-prancey "action" poses and said "Yup, that steaming pile of mess looks like what we want, ship it!"

Doubly dismaying because they did such a great job on the Blood Bowl elves, the Elven Union was amazing, the Dark Elves were great, the Wood Elves are (mostly) great

I agree. Those are absolutely awful, why can't we just have cool dynamic wood Elves... or Elves for that matter? Why all this need to merge them with some element from their lore? I guess when we finally see High Elves they'll be half Elf, half Phoneix/eagle.

Are Elves not cool enough anymore?

Also Orange and Brown is a colour combo that was all the rage in The 70's... Which is where it should stay.

The Beastmen look solid, the Ungor with the arrow in the mouth is a great touch.

Not a fan of the leaping bow and arrow shooter. I think it just looks goofy, would've preferred if he was in a stalking/ambush sort of pose ready to fire, but I like everything else.

Love the Ungor cutting himself. Kill marks or something involving the Shaman and magic?

Suprised they didn't get a Chaos hound.

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 stonehorse wrote:

Also Orange and Brown is a colour combo that was all the rage in The 70's... Which is where it should stay.

OT, but if the Cleveland Browns are actually legit this year, and they have a good chance at it, orange and brown will be making a comeback!

American Football reference, btw.

 stonehorse wrote:

 Kalamadea wrote:
I want to like them, but they're just AWFUL! It's like they took the worst aspects of wood elves and the worst aspects of beastment, posed them in awkward dancey-prancey "action" poses and said "Yup, that steaming pile of mess looks like what we want, ship it!"

Doubly dismaying because they did such a great job on the Blood Bowl elves, the Elven Union was amazing, the Dark Elves were great, the Wood Elves are (mostly) great

I agree. Those are absolutely awful, why can't we just have cool dynamic wood Elves... or Elves for that matter? Why all this need to merge them with some element from their lore? I guess when we finally see High Elves they'll be half Elf, half Phoneix/eagle.

We literally got this with Idoneth. There's no "merging" them with anything. The only 'mutants' are the Namarti, and even then it's a facial disfigurement rather than anything else.

The Kurnothi are likely going to be more akin to the 'Forest Spirits' of old. There's a mention of Kurnoth's warriors, and I would be shocked if this isn't what it is alluding to.

Beastmen don't look great, the Kurnothi positively awful. Not a fan of the concept (too much like beastmen, their eternal enemies), the execution is even worse. Poorly chosen poses (bar the centaur), too much plastic looking scenery on the bases (for the Kurnothi), and the proportions look off. The armoured archer seems to have a narrower torso than the unclad others. Horsetails also seem a strange design choice with the goat legs - did Orion have one of those?

They're deer legs.

Nothing to write home about, but a new Bray-Shaman model is always going to be appreciated. Will wait for proper 360s of the aelves before casting final judgement, but the video alone shows they're far more dynamic than a single front shot from the "best" angle can convey, and I'm fairly fond of them already.

Barnes and Noble is now showing Dreadfane as out of stock. Is that really it, or will we be seeing more copies in soon? If that's it, I will be kicking myself for not placing the order yesterday...

I'm sold on the Beastmen alone. Very cool models. Though the bow ungor looks like he has a bunch of nipples, due to poorly placed rings

 Slayer Dragonwing wrote:
Barnes and Noble is now showing Dreadfane as out of stock. Is that really it, or will we be seeing more copies in soon? If that's it, I will be kicking myself for not placing the order yesterday...

They literally don't have copies in store yet. I called mine, the item was just put into their system yesterday with a release date of August 31st and a "distribution stock level of limited".

And if you missed it, who cares? There's no Universal Cards in it and the two warbands will be available by themselves later this year--with Universal Cards. It's likely that this is how they're going to do the "Echoes of Glory" styled pack that they did last year for Nightvault. They got a lot of negative feedback about the fact that Echoes of Glory sold through fast and then the Generic Cards were bundled not with actual, new Warbands but instead were in with the two previous starter set warbands.

Those elves are truly terrible. Hopefully I can pick up the Beastmen alone at some point.

Beastgrave is looking cool!

But why the hell can't GW paint a Beastman who looks like he's actually FUZZY! ?
They love this blotchy exposed skin on all their beastmen (and skaven too), I just don't get it. They look more like some sort of horned zombie, than a beastial goat man. C'mon GW, make beastmen fuzzy again!!

 Kanluwen wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:

 Kalamadea wrote:
I want to like them, but they're just AWFUL! It's like they took the worst aspects of wood elves and the worst aspects of beastment, posed them in awkward dancey-prancey "action" poses and said "Yup, that steaming pile of mess looks like what we want, ship it!"

Doubly dismaying because they did such a great job on the Blood Bowl elves, the Elven Union was amazing, the Dark Elves were great, the Wood Elves are (mostly) great

I agree. Those are absolutely awful, why can't we just have cool dynamic wood Elves... or Elves for that matter? Why all this need to merge them with some element from their lore? I guess when we finally see High Elves they'll be half Elf, half Phoneix/eagle.

We literally got this with Idoneth. There's no "merging" them with anything. The only 'mutants' are the Namarti, and even then it's a facial disfigurement rather than anything else.

The Kurnothi are likely going to be more akin to the 'Forest Spirits' of old. There's a mention of Kurnoth's warriors, and I would be shocked if this isn't what it is alluding to.

The Idoneth did show signs of their merging, just on a subtle scale. Deep sea life tend to be blind, a lot of the Idoneth are blind. It isn't as obvious as we have seen with these and the Daughters of Khaine, but it is there.

Plus there is the pants on head silly Elf riding an Eel/Turtle that somehow can fly through the air.

 stonehorse wrote:
The Idoneth did show signs of their merging, just on a subtle scale. Deep sea life tend to be blind, a lot of the Idoneth are blind. It isn't as obvious as we have seen with these and the Daughters of Khaine, but it is there.

The Namarti being blind has nothing to do with them living under the sea. Read the fluff.
It's a defect in the Idoneth themselves which causes the Namarti to be born with "half-souls" and is manifested as them having crippling deformities--of which the 'no eyes' is the most notable.

Plus there is the pants on head silly Elf riding an Eel/Turtle that somehow can fly through the air.

It's ridiculous how hard it is for some people to understand "they bring the aethersea with them" literally means that. We had little fluff snippets posted early on showing how it worked, where people were seeing bubbles or they'd see that there was a shift in how sunlight was appearing, to where it would look as though they were underwater.

Read. The. Fluff. The Aethersea isn't hard to grasp if you do that.

I in theory like the satyr-elves, conceptually they're good and there are nice design elements. I even like the centaur, even though I'm allergic to centaurs. It's just that the poses of the models (except the centaur) are somewhat daft.

I'm excited for the new boards and the future warbands. The pan-aelves don't interest me all that much although I like their concept.

 Kanluwen wrote:

They literally don't have copies in store yet. I called mine, the item was just put into their system yesterday with a release date of August 31st and a "distribution stock level of limited".

And if you missed it, who cares? There's no Universal Cards in it and the two warbands will be available by themselves later this year--with Universal Cards. It's likely that this is how they're going to do the "Echoes of Glory" styled pack that they did last year for Nightvault. They got a lot of negative feedback about the fact that Echoes of Glory sold through fast and then the Generic Cards were bundled not with actual, new Warbands but instead were in with the two previous starter set warbands.

Thanks for the info. I know they will be releasing the warbands later, but I was interested in getting the hazard rules and single board from Dreadfane as well. Having another way to play the game is always good.

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
The armoured archer seems to have a narrower torso than the unclad others.

That's because she's supposed to be female.