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I thought the Undead Faction would be only Old dominion or just add Vampire counts.
Is Parabellum planning to implement a undead enemies of the Northern gods at Ragnarok?

https://www.para-bellum.com/songs-of-the-last-fire-child/
   
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vultute wrote:
I thought the Undead Faction would be only Old dominion or just add Vampire counts.
Is Parabellum planning to implement a undead enemies of the Northern gods at Ragnarok?

https://www.para-bellum.com/songs-of-the-last-fire-child/


Who knows, but we know what new factions are coming out for the next few years, and this ain't one of them

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The Great State of New Jersey

There was talk of there being another 1-2 undead factions amongst the ~18 total planned, so not out of the question - but I think its unlikely that this is pointing at a faction. We have City States coming in 2023 and Weaver Courts in 2024, I doubt very much that they release any other factions before those two are out, and it wouldn't make sense for them to start spinning up for a faction to be released in 2025 while we still know next to nothing about the two factions coming in 23/24.

CoALabaer wrote:
Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
 
   
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Germany

chaos0xomega wrote:
There was talk of there being another 1-2 undead factions amongst the ~18 total planned, so not out of the question - but I think its unlikely that this is pointing at a faction. We have City States coming in 2023 and Weaver Courts in 2024, I doubt very much that they release any other factions before those two are out, and it wouldn't make sense for them to start spinning up for a faction to be released in 2025 while we still know next to nothing about the two factions coming in 23/24.


I imagine 2024 will have another living world poll that'll decide the 2025, 2026 and 2027 factions

If Parabellum is even around by then, to be honest.

"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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Ireland

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
There was talk of there being another 1-2 undead factions amongst the ~18 total planned, so not out of the question - but I think its unlikely that this is pointing at a faction. We have City States coming in 2023 and Weaver Courts in 2024, I doubt very much that they release any other factions before those two are out, and it wouldn't make sense for them to start spinning up for a faction to be released in 2025 while we still know next to nothing about the two factions coming in 23/24.


I imagine 2024 will have another living world poll that'll decide the 2025, 2026 and 2027 factions

If Parabellum is even around by then, to be honest.


Are Parabellum looking like they may be in trouble? I haven't even following them a lot, the occasional look at their Conquest models. Still on the fence about the game.

The objective of the game is to win. The point of the game is to have fun. The two should never be confused. 
   
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Theres no indications that they are in trouble, unless you consider that they discontinued some of their recent discount offers and have hiked prices on newer products to be an indicator of distress (theres good argument to be made for the opposite, that the hikes are reflective of their success and their ability to have built a solid core community that no longer requires loss-leaders as incentive for customers to buy in).


CoALabaer wrote:
Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
 
   
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It was a pretty direct response to world events driving up costs.

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 stonehorse wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
There was talk of there being another 1-2 undead factions amongst the ~18 total planned, so not out of the question - but I think its unlikely that this is pointing at a faction. We have City States coming in 2023 and Weaver Courts in 2024, I doubt very much that they release any other factions before those two are out, and it wouldn't make sense for them to start spinning up for a faction to be released in 2025 while we still know next to nothing about the two factions coming in 23/24.


I imagine 2024 will have another living world poll that'll decide the 2025, 2026 and 2027 factions

If Parabellum is even around by then, to be honest.


Are Parabellum looking like they may be in trouble? I haven't even following them a lot, the occasional look at their Conquest models. Still on the fence about the game.


They seem to be in the opposite of trouble, given they have to move production of a few of existing resin models to plastic to keep up with the demand.

But a lot can change in 5 years

"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 stonehorse wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
There was talk of there being another 1-2 undead factions amongst the ~18 total planned, so not out of the question - but I think its unlikely that this is pointing at a faction. We have City States coming in 2023 and Weaver Courts in 2024, I doubt very much that they release any other factions before those two are out, and it wouldn't make sense for them to start spinning up for a faction to be released in 2025 while we still know next to nothing about the two factions coming in 23/24.


I imagine 2024 will have another living world poll that'll decide the 2025, 2026 and 2027 factions

If Parabellum is even around by then, to be honest.


Are Parabellum looking like they may be in trouble? I haven't even following them a lot, the occasional look at their Conquest models. Still on the fence about the game.


They seem to be in the opposite of trouble, given they have to move production of a few of existing resin models to plastic to keep up with the demand.

But a lot can change in 5 years


So they are doing well, yes a lot can happen in 5 years. However the way you worded it sounds like you either think the company is going down the drain, or you want the company to go down the drain.

Still, glad they are doing well. Makes me a bit more positive about potentially getting into the system.

The objective of the game is to win. The point of the game is to have fun. The two should never be confused. 
   
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Germany

 stonehorse wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 stonehorse wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
There was talk of there being another 1-2 undead factions amongst the ~18 total planned, so not out of the question - but I think its unlikely that this is pointing at a faction. We have City States coming in 2023 and Weaver Courts in 2024, I doubt very much that they release any other factions before those two are out, and it wouldn't make sense for them to start spinning up for a faction to be released in 2025 while we still know next to nothing about the two factions coming in 23/24.


I imagine 2024 will have another living world poll that'll decide the 2025, 2026 and 2027 factions

If Parabellum is even around by then, to be honest.


Are Parabellum looking like they may be in trouble? I haven't even following them a lot, the occasional look at their Conquest models. Still on the fence about the game.


They seem to be in the opposite of trouble, given they have to move production of a few of existing resin models to plastic to keep up with the demand.

But a lot can change in 5 years


So they are doing well, yes a lot can happen in 5 years. However the way you worded it sounds like you either think the company is going down the drain, or you want the company to go down the drain.

Still, glad they are doing well. Makes me a bit more positive about potentially getting into the system.


Eh, it was more intended as a generic comment at very-long-term plans, but I can see how it could be seen like that. I, personally, also hope they're going to be around for a while, given how I'm about to start a really bloody long-term project going with the Old Dominion and I wanna have a system to use them in when I'm finally done

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vultute wrote:
I thought the Undead Faction would be only Old dominion or just add Vampire counts.
Is Parabellum planning to implement a undead enemies of the Northern gods at Ragnarok?

https://www.para-bellum.com/songs-of-the-last-fire-child/


That character/myth is pretty explicitly one of the Old Dominion leftovers from their Northern Invasion (aka Ragnarök) who has become twisted and Undead since the Fall and totally not Surtur Hazlia merged with Death (it's probably one of the Anointed or a little chunk of Hazlia that's gone feral). There's a lot of weird stuff in the North owing to all the shenanigans their 'gods' were getting up to, the Ice Jotnar and whatever the Dominion dropped on them. I haven't heard tell of them getting a specific undead faction for the region though. The North seems to have plenty of other stuff lurking there. The cannibalistic/ghoul/zombie faction mentioned hasn't had a lot of lore behind it yet but I don't think it'll be focused around the Nords.
   
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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 stonehorse wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
There was talk of there being another 1-2 undead factions amongst the ~18 total planned, so not out of the question - but I think its unlikely that this is pointing at a faction. We have City States coming in 2023 and Weaver Courts in 2024, I doubt very much that they release any other factions before those two are out, and it wouldn't make sense for them to start spinning up for a faction to be released in 2025 while we still know next to nothing about the two factions coming in 23/24.


I imagine 2024 will have another living world poll that'll decide the 2025, 2026 and 2027 factions

If Parabellum is even around by then, to be honest.


Are Parabellum looking like they may be in trouble? I haven't even following them a lot, the occasional look at their Conquest models. Still on the fence about the game.


They seem to be in the opposite of trouble, given they have to move production of a few of existing resin models to plastic to keep up with the demand.

But a lot can change in 5 years

I enjoyed the time I spent with Conquest and hope Parabellum continue to do well, but I'll be surprised if The Old World doesn't kill it off. It's a great game, but peoples brand loyalty to GW trumps pretty much anything else.
   
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Germany

 Arbitrator wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 stonehorse wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
There was talk of there being another 1-2 undead factions amongst the ~18 total planned, so not out of the question - but I think its unlikely that this is pointing at a faction. We have City States coming in 2023 and Weaver Courts in 2024, I doubt very much that they release any other factions before those two are out, and it wouldn't make sense for them to start spinning up for a faction to be released in 2025 while we still know next to nothing about the two factions coming in 23/24.


I imagine 2024 will have another living world poll that'll decide the 2025, 2026 and 2027 factions

If Parabellum is even around by then, to be honest.


Are Parabellum looking like they may be in trouble? I haven't even following them a lot, the occasional look at their Conquest models. Still on the fence about the game.


They seem to be in the opposite of trouble, given they have to move production of a few of existing resin models to plastic to keep up with the demand.

But a lot can change in 5 years

I enjoyed the time I spent with Conquest and hope Parabellum continue to do well, but I'll be surprised if The Old World doesn't kill it off. It's a great game, but peoples brand loyalty to GW trumps pretty much anything else.


I still doubt OW will kill off most rank-and-file fantasy games, tbh. If they die, it's because of their own poor decisions, and Conquest seems to be doing pretty good thus far.

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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 stonehorse wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
There was talk of there being another 1-2 undead factions amongst the ~18 total planned, so not out of the question - but I think its unlikely that this is pointing at a faction. We have City States coming in 2023 and Weaver Courts in 2024, I doubt very much that they release any other factions before those two are out, and it wouldn't make sense for them to start spinning up for a faction to be released in 2025 while we still know next to nothing about the two factions coming in 23/24.


I imagine 2024 will have another living world poll that'll decide the 2025, 2026 and 2027 factions

If Parabellum is even around by then, to be honest.


Are Parabellum looking like they may be in trouble? I haven't even following them a lot, the occasional look at their Conquest models. Still on the fence about the game.


They seem to be in the opposite of trouble, given they have to move production of a few of existing resin models to plastic to keep up with the demand.

But a lot can change in 5 years


I cant comment on PB as a company, but I do wonder if Conquest isnt gaining the popularity they need or is in fact declining. FWIW (not very much Ill admit) many of the major LGS's in my area stocked Conquest at release, but now only one store regularly stocks it with new releases. In fact, as far as I can tell, that one store supplies most of the country, the only alternative being direct from PB.
   
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Germany

Btw, speaking of moving production to plastic - the new plastic High Clone Executor is up for pre-order.

https://store.para-bellum.com/the-spires/538-spires-high-clone-executor-plastic--PBW7113.html

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West Midlands

In the midlands, there are not as many people playing it, and it seems to have died off a little. Most people are doing the GW shuffle, which is a shame as I love the old Dominion and want to get involved
   
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Barcelona, Spain

chaos0xomega wrote:
Theres no indications that they are in trouble, unless you consider that they discontinued some of their recent discount offers and have hiked prices on newer products to be an indicator of distress (theres good argument to be made for the opposite, that the hikes are reflective of their success and their ability to have built a solid core community that no longer requires loss-leaders as incentive for customers to buy in).



Hikes is a strong word, when we are talking of +1 euro/dollar on most increases. Shipping costs and things getting pricier is more to blame.
   
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SoCal

I went into my FLGS hoping to buy some Conquest minis, but they barely had anything in stock, and nothing newer than Wadhrun hunters.

Is there some place in the US besides Miniature Market who sells Conquest?

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California the Southern

I have yet to find a shop that regularly stocks Conquest in SoCal, either online or in person.

I don't know if it's just distribution that's the holdup or what, but BobtheInquisitor is right- haven't seen any Old Dominion in the wild here at all. Had to get mine from MM when they first appeared, and those are now subsequently out of stock.

Really annoyed I didn't grab any Kataphractoi when I had the chance.

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/627383.page#7436324.html
Watch and listen to me ramble about these minis before ruining them with paint!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmCB2mWIxhYF8Q36d2Am_2A 
   
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At Ease Games in San Diego has almost everything, though afaik they don't normally do shipping.

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These guys look like they are up to date but lots of things are sold out so I guess its a question of if/when they restock: https://www.mythicos.store/collections/conquest-the-last-argument-of-kings

CoALabaer wrote:
Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
 
   
Made in gr
Regular Dakkanaut





Asmodee recently became their (non-exclusive) distributor so they definitely are doing very okay.

If people abandon Conquest for Old Hammer then minigamers deserve all the gakky treatment they get from GW all these years.

Conquest has an amazing ruleset. Interesting lore and they involve the community with the direction of the game overall.
   
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PB has some striking flaws too, though. Conquest is certainly going places but time will tell if it stays relevant or is just the next Warmahordes.

Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page

I chose an avatar I feel best represents the quality of my post history.

I try to view Warhammer as more of a toolbox with examples than fully complete games. 
   
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The Great State of New Jersey

Wait, Asmodee is Conquests distributor now?

RIP.

CoALabaer wrote:
Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
 
   
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chaos0xomega wrote:
Wait, Asmodee is Conquests distributor now?

RIP.

Was going to post exactly this.
   
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Germany

Welp, it had a good run at least.

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What's wrong with Asmodee as distributor?

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Damn that is really bad news.....
   
Made in pl
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Germany

Dang, guess I won't start that Old Dominion army, then.

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on the forum. Obviously

I don't get what's the problem?
To me it seems great because Asmodee is a French distributor of board games. Which means I might actually see Conquest in stores at some point.

They're not the only distributor either, so if asmodee screws up there's other options. I don't get what the doom and gloom is about.

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