CMON N&R - Degenesis Clan Wars GF Q2 2024, DC Heroes United GF July 2024

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**Chillreaper**

Seen a lot of minis from various games and companies over the years. Adore a high percentage of the Mythic Battles: Pantheon stuff. Most minis that I see these days I rate as "it's okay" or "it's pretty good".

That Dark Phoenix mini, though... that's just brilliant. Best mini of the Kickstarter and almost worth the price of admission alone.

**DaveC**

Morbius is coming hopefully Blade follows

As a side note there was a ASOIAF stream today - they went through some of the updated cards being released in the next 2 weeks. No new minis revealed this time.

**frankelee**

We can still get Blade, then Punisher, at which point we'll be running low on Marvel Knights related characters. Hopefully we get some more X-Men before it all ends.

**Ghool**

Why does Morbius have his foot wedged in between that rock and gravestone?
It’s like he’s tripping and looking real pissed about it.
Either that or he’s really twisted his ankle and it hurts.
It’s the first instance in this whole KS that’s made me do a double take.

**Azazelx**

Fair point. I'd probably clip one of those off, myself...

**Chillreaper**

Thanks guys. I can't unsee that now...

Grrr...

**Ghool**

Chillreaper wrote:
Thanks guys. I can't unsee that now...

Grrr...

Then you won’t be able to unsee the break dancing Daredevil in the latest artists pack.
For the most part these figures are amazing. DD and Morbius are questionable.

**Chillreaper**

Ghool wrote:
Chillreaper wrote:
Thanks guys. I can't unsee that now...

Grrr...

Then you won’t be able to unsee the break dancing Daredevil in the latest artists pack.
For the most part these figures are amazing. DD and Morbius are questionable.

Aww yeah. My boi is pulling some sick moves...

(Did I say that right?)

I'm quite impressed with my current ability to fight the completionist mindset. I don't want Galactus, GOTG or the alt sculpts box. I really wanted the F4 box, but then the Avengers came along. So that becomes a one or both question to ponder over until the pledge manager closes.

Now if something with Warmachine happens or the Sinister Six, I guess I I've got more questions to ask myself.

**Mr Morden**

I am hoping for some more Mutants - and would have prefered the MCU imagery for all of them but there are alot of nice models

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Massive Darkness 2 is starting to deliver and some (but by no mean all) UK backers are getting asked for VAT by UPS who is handling the deliveries

CMON have said in the comments

Isa, Guardian of Die & Spawn of Update Collaborator

For any UK backers receiving a second VAT charge upon delivery: Hello. We apologize for the issue and we're investigating what happened.

So far, it seems that it's not a general issue as some UK backers reported the issue and some reported not having a second payment. We are looking into clarifying the scope of situation and to resolve with the hub to be able to post an update addressing the issue with clear instructions on how to proceed and who was affected (if any logic is behind the issue).

In the meanwhile, if your package on the way there's likely little we can do to stop them charging the VAT in the middle of the process. If that's the case and you do have to pay, we'll reimburse this second charge, as it shouldn't have happened. Just please let us know and send on your support ticket the delivery documents with the second VAT charge along with your pledge number so we can sort this out."

no reports of any VAT problems from the EU just case anbody is wondering

**DaveC**

Sentinel Expansion. They are 120mm tall

Probably 1 expansion left

Miles Morales is an SG so I don't know if a Spiderverse expansion is likely.

Gambit added

**angel of death 007**

Dang what is the All-in at, for this point? I love the idea, I love the models, but I don't think I can remotely justify a $700+ USD price tag. My main interests are Galaticus and the Sentinels. I just don't know if i could sleep spending that much money on a game I doubt I would end up playing. I have atleast 10 unopened Kickstarters, and sure I could sell them and back this one but I dunno. I haven't touched one of them.

How many of you all backed this and at which level?

**DaveC**

No Punisher they couldn't get the license from Marvel

Clash of the Sinister 6 final expansion announced inc PVP mode - team v team works for all characters - both core boxes needed

Living Heroes
Black Cat
Mysterio
Venom
Sandman
Kraven
Scorpion

KS exclusive
Rhino
Green Goblin

Zombies
Doc Oc
Green Goblin
Rhino
Lizard
Vulture
Electro

KS exclusive
Mysterio
Venom/Eddie Brock

Bystanders
Gwen Stacy
Flash Thompson

**Gallahad**

Man, this seems like a collectors nightmare where you need both Zombie and living versions of heroes.

Glad to see CMON out there fulfilling dreams.

**DaveC**

Final expansion update

All in pledges - Hungry does not include the $25 artist box

**rybackstun**

That Hungry pledge is only $20 more than what it was looking like I was going to have to pledge after the addition of the new Sin Six box and it gets me two more boxes I otherwise wasn't going to pledge for so feth it, I'm in.

SOOOOOOO much money tho T_T

**Chillreaper**

Warmachine is a thing, now?!

Don't think that I'm going to be able to sleep tonight.

My problem is that I absolutely refuse to do an All-in on a Kickstarter ever again - cost aside, there are just too many boxes in the geek-room for my liking, so I'm trying to prioritize purchases every single time this campaign brings out a new Add-on, it jumps to the top of the priority list.

I remember only a few days ago that I had the F4 box pegged as a dead cert, but it's slipped down to fourth in line... but I'd still really like it.

Got to hand it to CMON, they've really mastered the art of making (nearly) every Add-on desirable.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Agreed, what i'd really want is very well scattered amongst the 'ok i'll have them too' and the odd 'why have the bothered with him/her'

**ced1106**

> I'm quite impressed with my current ability to fight the completionist mindset

Well, they don't have sculpts for "every" Marvel character, not to mention not having a zombie version for every superhero that's in the campaign. (I also want the Steve Gerber pre-Disney C&D letter Howard the Duck!)

Sculpts look great, but I also don't have a use for the zombie superheroes for other games (that I never play, of course). The sculpts look great for display, but on a boardgame, it may look overdone for every game piece to have a fancy display pose, and for the terrain to move along with your figure.

I'm gonna guess the obvious that CMON has limited rights, so doesn't have a license to make a generic superhero game for Marvel (or DC) since other companies have them.

And, of course, who knows what China's supply chains, inflation, and manufacturing will be like in the next year or longer.

**PsychoticStorm**

Hm I was hoping for the two Gewns, spider and pool to make an appearance.

It is interesting I may indeed pledge, not interested in the galactus though (or the sentinels but eh bundles).

**Mr Morden**

I pledged but alot not interested in so not too bad - was also hoping for Emma Frost, Magik and many other Mutants.

**Azazelx**

Chillreaper wrote:
Warmachine is a thing, now?!
Don't think that I'm going to be able to sleep tonight.
My problem is that I absolutely refuse to do an All-in on a Kickstarter ever again - cost aside, there are just too many boxes in the geek-room for my liking, so I'm trying to prioritize purchases every single time this campaign brings out a new Add-on, it jumps to the top of the priority list.
I remember only a few days ago that I had the F4 box pegged as a dead cert, but it's slipped down to fourth in line... but I'd still really like it.
Got to hand it to CMON, they've really mastered the art of making (nearly) every Add-on desirable.

You could go all-in and then cull/recoup via eBay etc? Doesn't work for me personally, but it does for a lot of other people - and that way you get to cherrypick the heroes you want to keep, including from the various exclusives.

**Chillreaper**

Azazelx wrote:
Chillreaper wrote:
Warmachine is a thing, now?!
Don't think that I'm going to be able to sleep tonight.
My problem is that I absolutely refuse to do an All-in on a Kickstarter ever again - cost aside, there are just too many boxes in the geek-room for my liking, so I'm trying to prioritize purchases every single time this campaign brings out a new Add-on, it jumps to the top of the priority list.
I remember only a few days ago that I had the F4 box pegged as a dead cert, but it's slipped down to fourth in line... but I'd still really like it.
Got to hand it to CMON, they've really mastered the art of making (nearly) every Add-on desirable.

You could go all-in and then cull/recoup via eBay etc? Doesn't work for me personally, but it does for a lot of other people - and that way you get to cherrypick the heroes you want to keep, including from the various exclusives.

I figured that there are two kinds of people in the world: those think nothing of just sticking stuff on eBay and those who are too lazy/incompetent/incapable of letting go of stuff to stick stuff on eBay.

I'm one of the latter.

I just need to remind myself of something that someone said on a YouTube video about not ever regretting not getting something on Kickstarter. You know what? All those things that I've skipped? I don't miss a single one of them.

I'm still going to stick $300 into this by the end of the pledge manager, but then I'm stopping!

**Huron black heart**

Does anyone know what these are likely to sell for at retail? I've been keeping an eye on this and probably going to go all in, but wondering what sort of savings (if any) we're getting over retail, or is it all about the exclusives?

**DaveC**

Huron black heart wrote:
Does anyone know what these are likely to sell for at retail? I've been keeping an eye on this and probably going to go all in, but wondering what sort of savings (if any) we're getting over retail, or is it all about the exclusives?

Marvel Zombies MSRP $130 - KS bonus all added SG and Daily Bugle minis
X-Men Resistance MSRP $130 - no KS bonuses
Fantastic 4 MSRP $60 - KS bonus 4 minis
GotG MSRP $50 - KS bonus 4 minis
Hydra MSRP $60 - KS bonus 4 minis
Sinister 6 MSRP $60 - KS bonus 4 minis
Sentinels N/A KS exclusive
Artist box N/A KS exclusive
Galactus N/A KS exclusive

There’s no guarantee that everything listed with an MSRP will actually make it to retail that’s up to Spin master to decide as they look after retail.

Also worth noting that the T&C of the retailer pledges say that retailer backers are free to set whatever price they want and they are free to split up pledges and sell bonuses as they see fit.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Also worth noting that Spin Master has scrapped plans to bring a bunch of the Marvel United expansions to retail when sales of the game weren't fast enough

so they do have form for doing so meaning even more reason to grab them now if anything REALLY matters to you

**ced1106**

> All those things that I've skipped? I don't miss a single one of them.

I miss 'em all, but I miss my storage space and playtime buddies more.

Speculating that only the first two retail boxes will make retail. It's not the only Marvel miniatures game on the market, and it's niche. If you're a fan of the MZ comics, you've probably spent more on the comics, anyway.

**frankelee**

The idea of them not bringing these items to retail is very bizarre. Clearly Spin Master doesn't know what they're doing, but CMON has done how many Zombicide products that all made it to market again? The plan to sell chibi models in Walmart maybe wasn't great, but how many Zombicides all brought to market again?

**Flipsiders**

Well, none of my silly obscure pet characters got added, and I swore to myself I'd only go in on this in the extremely low-percent possibility that they were.

It's a cool Kickstarter, for sure, but I'm also glad I get to keep my $450.

**PsychoticStorm**

In the end I pledged, hopefully they will prove useful components for games.