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well, i completed the painting of alot of my tomb kings stuff (three chariots minus crew, the ark of the covenant, and 5 archers)

now that my army is legal for play, i made up a few lists (not that i haven't done extensive re-search into list development and tactics of course)

1RST LIST!
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tomb prince, great weapon, shield, armor of the ages
141 pts

liche priest, hierophant, cloak of the dunes, hieratic jar
160 pts

icon bearer, light armor, banner of the hidden dead (heavy cavalry)
127 pts

24 skeleton warriors, hand weapon and shield, full command, light armor
241 pts

10 skeleton bowmen
80 pts

6 skeleton heavy cavalry
96 pts

3 chariots, champion
140 pts


total = 999 pts

the other l ist i have is simmilar, but not quite the same

tomb prince, great weapon, shield, armor of the ages
141 pts

liche priest, hierophant, hieratic jar, casket of souls
305 pts

19 skeleton warriors, hand weapon and shield, full command, light armor
196 pts

10 skeleton bowmen
80 pts

6 skeleton light horsemen
74 pts

tomb swarm, 1 base
45 pts

3 chariots, champion
140 pts


total = 995 pts

which do you think is more effective or balanced?

drop the icon bearer at all costs, your just giving your opponent free points for the character and battle standard

tomb scorpions are deadly especially at lower points, better than the swarm, drop the cav and take 10 more archers

forget the champ in the chariot

PapaSmurf

this is using what i have. i can get more, but i play with what i have painted, so which would be best?

Second list because of the ark. Icon bearer really is not worth it from the games I have played. When you get more I would drop heavy calv and two Screaming skulls are better than one Ark IMO.

I should clarify. Two catapults in low point games are better. Above 2000 the Ark and one catapult are nice. Heavy calv for TK is like throwing stones against tanks compared to other races heavy calvary. Wasted points. Better to include 2 more chariots or foot troops. By comparison if you take a min of 5 Heavy calv on the charge thats 5 S4 attacks followed by 5 S3 horse attacks at WS2 with 5 wounds for the whole unit at toughness 3. The 2 chariots for the same points do 2D3 S4 Impact hits, followed by 2 S4 spear hits at WS3 Followed by 6 S3 hits by crew and horses with 6 wounds at T4. The chariots also give you 4 bow shots in the shooting phase when they are unengaged.

Lemartes wrote:I should clarify. Two catapults in low point games are better. Above 2000 the Ark and one catapult are nice. Heavy calv for TK is like throwing stones against tanks compared to other races heavy calvary. Wasted points. Better to include 2 more chariots or foot troops. By comparison if you take a min of 5 Heavy calv on the charge thats 5 S4 attacks followed by 5 S3 horse attacks at WS2 with 5 wounds for the whole unit at toughness 3. The 2 chariots for the same points do 2D3 S4 Impact hits, followed by 2 S4 spear hits at WS3 Followed by 6 S3 hits by crew and horses with 6 wounds at T4. The chariots also give you 4 bow shots in the shooting phase when they are unengaged.

1. you cannot have two screaming skull catapults in lower than 2k

2. i think of heavy cav as "medium cav" because that is what they are. not tooo good, but not exactly crappy either. but i do see your point.