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ok, Ork come from spores.

where does the spore come from?

spores come from the orks! Orks make a lot of spores all the time, they make even more when they die.

It's kind of like a beautiful cycle of greenskinned killing... and fungus.

The original orks were made by the 'brainboys' - a lost race (maybe the old ones?)

I think the "old ones" made the krork. Later those krork forgot the "kr" and referred to themselves only as ork.
The "brainboyz" are most likely the control-factor of those krork, but the greenskins turned against their "masters".
So the ork are an engineered race and thats why they have inbreed technology (orks do not research/invent as others do).
The first spore might be a clinical experiment from the "old ones". Now they reproduce independently.
And fungus (orks) is renown for massive loads of spores.

What? Orks are very inventive. Just because they have looted tech doesn't mean they do not invent.

Dreadwinter wrote:What? Orks are very inventive. Just because they have looted tech doesn't mean they do not invent.

They do not
ORks "do not research/invent as others do" because they remembertheir inbreed tech.

Yeah, that's awesome how knowledge is a hereditary trait.

naw i sorta agree with you and sorta dont. yea they remember how to make things and whatnot yes. but how come some meks are much better then others, why are some doks 10x the doks as other doks? you expect me to believe that they dont think up better ideas on their own at times? no way i think mostly yes they just remember and go on with it, but some times smarter orks seep threw the mix and end up making stuff.

Meks and Doks are still able to learn from trial and error, but they don't research the same way a dedicated scientist does. They don't have to research said way because of their lack of caring if an ork dies testing one of their contraptions.

All Meks start with the same basic knowledge which insures the survival capacity of the Ork race. Imagine if every time an Ork died and released spores the offspring would have to learn everything, from "childhood" all over again? The race would die off eventually. Given the relatively short lifespan of Orks this inbred knowledge is mandatory to maintain the self supporting defensive force that the "brainboyz" envisioned ages ago.

Which came first, the Ork or the spore?

so, if you kill an ork, it explode in a puffy, colorfull, spore cloud?

So cute...

Digganob wrote:Which came first, the Ork or the spore?

Well, as they were genetically engineered so the spore would have to come first

A chicken can't compete with that assumption.

Orks can always invent new stuff, its just at random and usually by chance, I think thats what Kej means. And the spore came first BTW.

-MANRIC

1hadhq wrote:

Dreadwinter wrote:What? Orks are very inventive. Just because they have looted tech doesn't mean they do not invent.

They do not
ORks "do not research/invent as others do" because they remembertheir inbreed tech.

They invent.

I mean, its not like when they want a new Gargant they call up some Forgeworld they have taken over and order a new Gargant. It comes in a box. They have to pop it off the sprue and trim down all the mold lines to appease Gork and Mork. Then they have to cut all the features off and trim all those mold lines and decide what features they want.

That would be silly.....

1hadhq wrote:

Dreadwinter wrote:What? Orks are very inventive. Just because they have looted tech doesn't mean they do not invent.

They do not
ORks "do not research/invent as others do" because they remembertheir inbreed tech.

um may i remind you or orkimedes he invented the tellyportas that made it easier for the orks to attack armageddon

Dreadwinter wrote:

1hadhq wrote:

Dreadwinter wrote:What? Orks are very inventive. Just because they have looted tech doesn't mean they do not invent.

They do not
ORks "do not research/invent as others do" because they remembertheir inbreed tech.

They invent.

I mean, its not like when they want a new Gargant they call up some Forgeworld they have taken over and order a new Gargant. It comes in a box. They have to pop it off the sprue and trim down all the mold lines to appease Gork and Mork. Then they have to cut all the features off and trim all those mold lines and decide what features they want.

That would be silly.....

Sorry orks do not invent new stuff. They recall their inbreed "hightech" (tech handed from ancient "old ones") and the intelligence of the mekboy will be what differiates the good stuff from the "warboss is not amused" stuff.
How should an ork research? His tech will function if he believes in it. So a ork mek without doubts is a successful mek.

Warboss Spleenstaba wrote:

1hadhq wrote:

Dreadwinter wrote:What? Orks are very inventive. Just because they have looted tech doesn't mean they do not invent.

They do not
ORks "do not research/invent as others do" because they remembertheir inbreed tech.

um may i remind you or orkimedes he invented the tellyportas that made it easier for the orks to attack armageddon

Teleporters are old tech. Used by necrons and maybe their counterparts, didn't wonder if orks just can't remember all those
hightech from their days as servants.
And orks have an advantage: they can believe something to work and it does.
But those tellyportas are destroyed and cannot be rebuilt. So human tech has the advantage of reproducing things.

You are arguing Nature vs. Nurture. The fact is that from the codex itself it says that the Orks are bred with all the knowledge they need to survive. It doesn't say that they have been programmed as how to use it.

The kicker is that they also have individuality. So one Mek can figure out the workings of the tellyportas and another Mek can't. The reason why is that they are "Grown" in different environments.

A Mek grown on a planet of rolling plains is more likely to put together a bike, or something to traverse long distances versus the Mek grown aboard a space hulk, who would look into Tellyportas, etc...

One last point is that Tellyportas isn't new. Space Marine Terminators use them all the time especially boarding Space Hulks.

Orks are born knowing how to do this gak, punnie umies have to go through growing up as whinny little kids that grots would beat the gak out of and learn all this gak less effefient




ORKS IS DA BEST!

i's agree. Wez Orkses are da best! WAAAAAARRRRGH

Still wonder why nobody uses fungicide against them...

i think the imperium tried that LONG ago, and it created the weirdboyz. SO after realizing that making Orks huff toxic gas for extended periods of time was a BAD idea